Had Mike Williams Nico Collins DJ Moore and Jahmir Gibbs on my bench in favor of Jahan Dotson for my flex spot think that experiment is over until I see something

Are the Patriots going to give a blueprint for dealing with the Miami Offense?

Also if the Patriots are looking at play this super bend but don't break shouldn't they be looking to go for it on 4th down? Way better to not be tired when the Dolphins get to the 5 yard line.

Whew I was getting nervous with Tyreek. Tua finally connecting for a TD.

Mostert was a nice mid-to-late round draft pick

40 yards and TD so far tonight

oh yes....

43-yard TD run for Mostert

late TD run salvages Stevenson's fantasy day

Would like one more for him. That penalty call might make it hard for NE to get it back. Don't like that call.

Really thought Achane would steal Mostert's job.

I thought he was hurt?

I think that was a bad call on reversing the spot.

to avoid injury....Miami may (or should) limit Mostert's touches to about 15 per game

he had 19 tonight

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late TD run salvages Stevenson's fantasy day

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and gave me the win

So back to Joe Fool……..do you ever bench this guy? Balky calf or not. Got Derek Carr on my bench

Any thoughts on if DJ Moore is a guy to sell high on if you can. Not seeing hardly any improvement from Justin Fields but Moore had a good game against TB

Nico Collin's has been great through two games. Seems to be Stroud's WR1. Also interested to see how Metchie comes along.

anyone else who had the #1 pick, and likely took JJ first overall, struggling like both of my teams? Had the same pick and therefore very similar drafts in both leagues. JJ is fine, but I did not like the RBs remaining at 20 and 21 for my 2nd and 3rd picks with the top 8 stud RBs gone; it felt like it would have been a reach to take Rhamondre or Etienne at 20 or 21 when their ADPs in ppr leagues across all platforms were in the 30s, so I went RB zero for those first three picks, hoping to hit on some decent RBs at 40/41 and/or 60/61 and/or 80/81. It's not working out for me so far.


luckily James Cook at 61 overall top of 7th round in one league might work out and in the other league i picked up Kyren on waivers after week 1, was on my bench in week 2, but he looks like a good ROS starter. ... the rest of my picks look like scrubs so far: Alexander Mattison, Miles Sanders, Javonte Williams, Khalil Herbert, etc. Meanwhile, some people who picked a Swift in the 70s or a Brian Robinson in the 80s or 90s due to expected committee/splits look like they're going to make out like bandits. ...looks like a split / committee back on a good team is better than a #1 back on a bad team so far. ...although maybe i just picked the wrong #1 backs on bad teams- someone like James Conner or Rachaad White was lower a much lower adp when i took Miles or Mattison at 40/41.

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Alexander Mattison, Miles Sanders, Javonte Williams, Khalil Herbert, etc. Meanwhile, some people who picked a Swift in the 70s or a Brian Robinson in the 80s or 90s due to expected committee/splits look like they're going to make out like bandits. ...looks like a split / committee back on a good team is better than a #1 back on a bad team so far. ...although maybe i just picked the wrong #1 backs on bad teams- someone like James Conner or Rachaad White was lower a much lower adp when i took Miles or Mattison at 40/41.

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Draft good players or good team schemes, not opportunity volume. Mattison, Sanders, Williams, & Herbert (scariest of the 4) all had opportunity volume but were on bad running team schemes and aren't great backs.

Swift/Gainwell on the Eagles is a great running scheme (and Swift has talent). Robinson is more talented then those 4 backs and is on a team that is better at running.

Rachaad White looked good only against an awful Chicago defense. James Conner is injury prone and has a brutal schedule coming up. Conner could put up 2 sub 7 point weeks over the next two games with DAL & SF as opponents.

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Alexander Mattison, Miles Sanders, Javonte Williams, Khalil Herbert, etc. Meanwhile, some people who picked a Swift in the 70s or a Brian Robinson in the 80s or 90s due to expected committee/splits look like they're going to make out like bandits. ...looks like a split / committee back on a good team is better than a #1 back on a bad team so far. ...although maybe i just picked the wrong #1 backs on bad teams- someone like James Conner or Rachaad White was lower a much lower adp when i took Miles or Mattison at 40/41.

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Draft good players or good team schemes, not opportunity volume. Mattison, Sanders, Williams, & Herbert (scariest of the 4) all had opportunity volume but were on bad running team schemes and aren't great backs.

Swift/Gainwell on the Eagles is a great running scheme (and Swift has talent). Robinson is more talented then those 4 backs and is on a team that is better at running.

Rachaad White looked good only against an awful Chicago defense. James Conner is injury prone and has a brutal schedule coming up. Conner could put up 2 sub 7 point weeks over the next two games with DAL & SF as opponents.

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yeah, hindsight is 20/20. I had Brian Robinson on a team last year and he was truly splitting and even losing reps to Antonio Gibson down the stretch and not very valuable for fantasy. Seems to be a complete reversal so far through 2 weeks this season. His avg ADP in ppr leagues across four different platforms was 108.5 just before the season started. He went 103 and 95 in my leagues respectively. it would have seemed crazy to take him at 80 or 81.

Swift ADP was around 73 vs Javonte around 72. My choice was based more on betting Javonte's offense will be much better with Sean Payton coaching there and Perine not much of a committee threat as the season goes on. Remains to be seen, but with Philly signing Penny and Swift and liking Gainwell, huge unknown there.

It does appear that not getting shot in the leg in the preseason might impact one's fitness for the NFL as a RB. Surprise surprise.

Swift had a great game, but I don't trust it. Scott had 5 carries for 40 yards, 8 ypc. Watching that game Swift was gaining 3-4 yards and then was finding a first defender. I don't expect WAS and TB to be as exposed on the run game as a bad MIN run defense.

Swift 178 Rushing yards. 177 yards before contact. He averages 0 yards after contact. Now Swift is fast so he is talented, but I think this was more opponent then a sign of things to come.

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anyone else who had the #1 pick, and likely took JJ first overall, struggling like both of my teams? Had the same pick and therefore very similar drafts in both leagues. JJ is fine, but I did not like the RBs remaining at 20 and 21 for my 2nd and 3rd picks with the top 8 stud RBs gone; it felt like it would have been a reach to take Rhamondre or Etienne at 20 or 21 when their ADPs in ppr leagues across all platforms were in the 30s, so I went RB zero for those first three picks, hoping to hit on some decent RBs at 40/41 and/or 60/61 and/or 80/81. It's not working out for me so far.


luckily James Cook at 61 overall top of 7th round in one league might work out and in the other league i picked up Kyren on waivers after week 1, was on my bench in week 2, but he looks like a good ROS starter. ... the rest of my picks look like scrubs so far: Alexander Mattison, Miles Sanders, Javonte Williams, Khalil Herbert, etc. Meanwhile, some people who picked a Swift in the 70s or a Brian Robinson in the 80s or 90s due to expected committee/splits look like they're going to make out like bandits. ...looks like a split / committee back on a good team is better than a #1 back on a bad team so far. ...although maybe i just picked the wrong #1 backs on bad teams- someone like James Conner or Rachaad White was lower a much lower adp when i took Miles or Mattison at 40/41.

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I had 1st pick and I'm 2-0. That's not to say I've been that good. Good week this week but horrid 3rd worst point total week one but got lucky and played worst. Got Garrett Wilson at 20 then started taking RB and TE. Got Najee Harris (which isn't looking good), mark Andrews, Kenneth walker at 60, dalvin cook at 80 (also not good), and Brian Robinson at 101 (good).

Big question:

Is the Cincy offense going to turn it around and make Chase a top 3 pick (don't think so), Higgins end of round 2 pick (possibly), Mixon end of round 3 pick (maybe, tough run defenses), and Burrow round 4 pick (unlikely).

oh no said:

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anyone else who had the #1 pick, and likely took JJ first overall, struggling like both of my teams? Had the same pick and therefore very similar drafts in both leagues. JJ is fine, but I did not like the RBs remaining at 20 and 21 for my 2nd and 3rd picks with the top 8 stud RBs gone; it felt like it would have been a reach to take Rhamondre or Etienne at 20 or 21 when their ADPs in ppr leagues across all platforms were in the 30s, so I went RB zero for those first three picks, hoping to hit on some decent RBs at 40/41 and/or 60/61 and/or 80/81. It's not working out for me so far.


luckily James Cook at 61 overall top of 7th round in one league might work out and in the other league i picked up Kyren on waivers after week 1, was on my bench in week 2, but he looks like a good ROS starter. ... the rest of my picks look like scrubs so far: Alexander Mattison, Miles Sanders, Javonte Williams, Khalil Herbert, etc. Meanwhile, some people who picked a Swift in the 70s or a Brian Robinson in the 80s or 90s due to expected committee/splits look like they're going to make out like bandits. ...looks like a split / committee back on a good team is better than a #1 back on a bad team so far. ...although maybe i just picked the wrong #1 backs on bad teams- someone like James Conner or Rachaad White was lower a much lower adp when i took Miles or Mattison at 40/41.

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I also had the first-overall pick and tried to implement a hero RB strategy...I took Jonathan Taylor with my second pick (we drafted on August 18th, and it seemed far more likely JT would get moved), MAndrews with my third pick, Keenan fourth, Herbert fifth, JK Dobbins sixth (felt great about that until the Achilles), Drake London, Michael Pittman Jr., Jordan Addison, Jahan Dotson, Rashaad Penny, Antonio Gibson, and Skyy Moore.

Post-draft, I was able to flip Pittman for Brandon Aiyuk, and then I swapped Antonio Gibson and Skyy Moore for Javonte Williams...it looks like I am going to be 2-0 because Jjettas has been great, and I have gotten WR1 production from Aiyuk or Keenan either week, but my RBs are terrible...I started Justice Hill and Javonte Williams this week and every single team in my league had at least one RB outproduce both of them combined.

my point is that #1 pick sucked. waiting until 20 and 21 when cmc, eckeler, chubb, bijan, saquon, pollard, henry, jacobs, mixon are all gone is tricky. felt too high to draft rhamondre and etiene, but betting on middle round rbs is hard.

I've always preferred middle order or even closer to the turn, personally. if you had any other draft order position, 2/19 all the way to 10/11, you probably have one of those top 8-9 high floor RBs and a stud WR (or you have one of them and Kelce) vs 1/20 where you probably have JJ and Garrett Wilson or JJ and Olave like I do in my leagues.

for example, 8/13 has like a Tyreek and Jacobs, 7/14 has Chubb and Pollard, etc.

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Big question:

Is the Cincy offense going to turn it around and make Chase a top 3 pick (don't think so), Higgins end of round 2 pick (possibly), Mixon end of round 3 pick (maybe, tough run defenses), and Burrow round 4 pick (unlikely).

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I have Burrow and Higgins and I'm not worried yet. They also started last year slow and Burrow is dealing with that calf injury. Now that they're 0-2, I think they will turn it up a gear and hopefully start slinging the ball.

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texagbeliever said:

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Big question:

Is the Cincy offense going to turn it around and make Chase a top 3 pick (don't think so), Higgins end of round 2 pick (possibly), Mixon end of round 3 pick (maybe, tough run defenses), and Burrow round 4 pick (unlikely).

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I have Burrow and Higgins and I'm not worried yet. They also started last year slow and Burrow is dealing with that calf injury. Now that they're 0-2, I think they will turn it up a gear and hopefully start slinging the ball.

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If Burrow has an injury and can't practice this week, i'd be worried. If he can't get it going against Rams, then he could have 3 good weeks: Titans, Cards, Seahawks... but then 3 bad weeks Bye, Dallas, SF.

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my point is that #1 pick sucked. waiting until 20 and 21 when cmc, eckeler, chubb, bijan, saquon, pollard, henry, jacobs, mixon are all gone is tricky. felt too high to draft rhamondre and etiene, but betting on middle round rbs is hard.

I've always preferred middle order or even closer to the turn, personally. if you had any other draft order position, 2/19 all the way to 10/11, you probably have one of those top 8-9 high floor RBs and a stud WR (or you have one of them and Kelce) vs 1/20 where you probably have JJ and Garrett Wilson or JJ and Olave like I do in my leagues.

for example, 8/13 has like a Tyreek and Jacobs, 7/14 has Chubb and Pollard, etc.

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Hill going after 5 is just bad on picks 4 & 5.

I do wonder if the #1 pick didn't require you to take CMC just because you wouldn't have a RB worth drafting in rounds 2 & 3 (but would give you an Olave, Garrett Wilson, Ridley, Waddle, Mark Andrews)... CMC is an injury risk but is 100% a position winner like JJ. Obviously this is armchair action here.

Idk what my league mate was thinking (he may just be a moron) but he dropped Alvin Kamara. Was able to pick him up off waivers for miles sanders which has flipped my RB room from weakest part of my lineup to one of the strongest

Lucky. and yes, moron.


I have James Cook and will soon have Kamara available in one league- hoping that saves the day for me, as the Miles Sanders and Alex Mattison picks at 40 & 41 don't look promising so far.


other league, got Kyren on waivers after week 1.. otherwise, I'm in trouble - need Javonte or Miles or Mattison to pick it up as the season goes on.

I drafted at the turn in several leagues this year...and so far it's working okay.

Saquon or Pollard or Chubb were always there.

in one league I got two of them.

also using a 9th or 10th round pick on the Cowboys D/ST is paying off in the early season

on the flipside...

Pierce is moving from an RB2 to flex play, since the Texans can't run the ball

and Josh Jacobs' regression is hitting hard in the early go

Yeah, I would much rather have drafted at the turn.

Maybe I'll be ok, but RB hell and Miles & Mattison at 40 & 41 regret through two weeks...well, one week for Miles- he plays tonight.

also, was so excited for someone to reach up and get Mahomes in round 2 of one league so Garrett Wilson with Aaron Rogers throwing to him fell to me at 20. Four snaps into the season and Zach Wilson is qb1 for the jets and now I'm mad i didn't just take an early Qb there with Hurts or Allen.

This is why I like auction drafts better... you can spend 80% of your budget on WR1 and RB1 if you want to, or go more balanced -- up to you! And if a particular player gets bid up way over his value, there's usually someone else who's 90% as good and more affordable.

I lucked into Justin Herbert cheap after Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, Tua, and Lawrence went for more than I wanted to spend. Also got Nico Collins for $1 late, and only started him this week because Amari Cooper was out. That worked out pretty well!