*******Official 2023 Dallas Cowboys Season Thread*******

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Macarthur
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I think Stephen is involved. I don't think Jerry is very involved beyond sitting in meetings.

All of the heavy lifting of putting together a team is done by Will McClay. Dallas' problems are not drafting and player evaluations.

Now, I think it could be argued that the jones' get in the way when it comes to contract decisions and big acquisitions like Gilmore and stuff like that.

But I think it is safe to say the cowboys don't lack a talented roster. They have holes but all teams do really with maybe the exception of one or two teams.
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As an outsider it looks to me like the biggest issue is not getting rid of players/coaches until it's way too late. Jones (or whoever is making that level of decision) is making decisions that aren't ruthless enough.

I thought Zeke Elliot should have been moved or not resigned several years before he finally moved on. He was unproductive. And an unproductive expensive player is bad news. That type of contract decision isn't limited to Zeke.

Garrett was the same was as a coach. He was kept on too long.

Sometimes you have to be ruthless and make moves a year early instead of a year late.

You have good players but not great ones. You don't need much there. You have a good QB and a good kicker. Those two things win a lot of games.

Dak made some bad decisions but is that because he's a bad QB or had a game get away from him early and he tried to do too much and pressed? I think he's good but not elite. I think you have a hard choice with Dak. His contract is a mess. If you try and move him that contract is an albatross. If you keep him it's really expensive and it limits what you can do. No win either way. Moving him means starting over. The NFL is littered with college QBs drafted high that became busts real fast.

Fix your coaching staff, specifically the DC. Quinn looked clueless last night. Like he had no idea what to try and everything he did try blew up in his face.

Just my non fan $0.02
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Baker certainly starts better in the playoffs this year than Dak
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This

Yes, Steelers and Patriots have been pretty good at that one.
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LB12Diamond said:

This

Yes, Steelers and Patriots have been pretty good at that one.


Pats (specifically Belichek) was very ruthless. Of course it helped that he had the best QB going who was also willing to redo his contract over and over to help with $$.

Belichek without Brady hasn't worked. You sign him and you will not improve.
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I agree with everything you said.

We move on late. And we can win with Dak, but it takes more pieces. Basically, we need a defense that is outstanding. We have to move on from Quinn. I have a real hard time understanding how anyone can say "We must move on from McCarthy" without also demanding we move on from Dak. McCarthy made Dak the best version of himself.

If you keep one, you have to keep the other, and Dak has to take less so that we can keep talent around him on both sides of the ball, but especially on defense.
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This one had my crying

Well I don't know how to share it but it's 2 cats. one Cowboys and one Packers and the packers one is slapping him repeatedly and the cowboys just stands there
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I bet Philly is rethinking give Hurts all that money right about now.
jja79
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Then McClay should be fired.
gigem1223
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I've been a Dak supporter his entire career but yesterday was inexcusable and the last straw for me. It'd be one thing if his cap hit wasn't huge and he wasn't expecting to be the next highest paid QB but that's not the case from all indications. Time to move on and get a QB on a rookie deal. If Jerry caves and pays him, it'll just be more of the same over the next decade.
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I can't even take pleasure in the Bucs beating the Iggles. Just numb to everything. **** this team.
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A consolation prize is that Philly won't win this game. Their season may be more depressing than ours since they started 10-1.
gigem1223
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Still can't understand how Vegas had them favored. Easiest money ever
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I remember saying 2 weeks ago, maybe a trip to Tampa is more appealing than our first round opponent whoever it may be.

Either way…..I'm checked out on football until the Super Bowl probably. The game yesterday just made me sick sick sick.

I want to see some people fired and made very uncomfortable in the Cowboys organization.
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Jerry needs to break the bank and go hire Dan Campbell. He is clearly the best candidate and the Cowboys have way more prestige, history, and money than the Lions do. Make it happen.
jja79
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Except he isn't a candidate. Candidates are available.
Vince Blake
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Watch Philly not mess around and leave Sirianni's ass on the tarmac in Florida.
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There's no way Dan Campbell is walking away from Detroit at the end of this season
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jja79 said:

Then McClay should be fired.


I think they let their coaches pick too many players. This has actually historically been a problem with them. The Smith pick was especially bad.
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Id put money on him getting fired.
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Tksymm7 said:

I bet Philly is rethinking give Hurts all that money right about now.


You love to see it. I just hope we don't make the same mistake. Only way I keep Dak is if he is willing to sign a team friendly deal. If he's expecting to be paid $50M+. See ya!
jja79
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Then the owner is the problem. They're never winning until no Jones has anything to do with them.
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AgRN16 said:

Jerry needs to break the bank and go hire Dan Campbell. He is clearly the best candidate and the Cowboys have way more prestige, history, and money than the Lions do. Make it happen.
Hiring a HC away from another team would require compensation, namely draft picks.
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AgRN16 said:

Jerry needs to break the bank and go hire Dan Campbell. He is clearly the best candidate and the Cowboys have way more prestige, history, and money than the Lions do. Make it happen.


That's not how the NFL works
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jja79 said:

Then the owner is the problem. They're never winning until no Jones has anything to do with them.


Well do you have several billion dollars you'd like to spend? I can chip in a little to make up the difference if you're short some.
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Unfortunately the Jones family would never sell.
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gigem1223
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Jason Kelce retiring
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ChoppinDs40 said:




Apparently there were multiple such events.

How can any coach or organization be ok with this??
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One of the greatest to ever do it. Hats off to him and looking forward to seeing what he's going to do in media in the future.
Macarthur
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I think if we come out of the first three rounds w a LBer and a DT, I will be happy.

Give me

1st - Sweat
2nd - Trotter
3rd - Allen, RB.
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Macarthur said:

I think if we come out of the first three rounds w a LBer and a DT, I will be happy.

Give me

1st - Sweat
2nd - Trotter
3rd - Allen, RB.

Sweat as a first rounder? Puhhhleaze
Macarthur
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Yeah. I think he's going to be a great pro.
robcovol
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I'm not so sure God could coach this team as long as Jerry Jones is in charge.
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robcovol said:

I'm not so sure God could coach this team as long as Jerry Jones is in charge.
The most tired take in all of sports is "they will never win with that owner". The Cowboys actually do a lot of things really well and have shored up most of the problems they had. The team wins a lot of games. They just haven't delivered in the playoffs. I fail to see how the owner of the team is the reason for this. If anything, the pressure of playing in Dallas could be a big part of it. But that pressure would exist no matter who owned the team.
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