Youre right. Dez, TO and Witten were bumsHubert J. Farnsworth said:
Dak has had some good teams since taking over. Romo would have done more with these teams than Dak.
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Theres plenty to criticize Dak of. Mental toughness is not one of those thingsWoods Ag said:
If your wife is cheating on you and your decision on leaving her is "well will I be able to find someone else" then you already lost. Someone needs to slap you so you stiffen up and get a grip.
I'm definitely making calls to Chicago and Washington to see what it would take.
I'm also going after Harbaugh. If anyone can download mental toughness into Dak it's Harbaugh.
What do you want to call it?
Ability to perform when your team needs and it matters the most.
Ability to perform when your team needs and it matters the most.
I guess it will be fun to get on the Dan Campbell/Aaron Glenn/Josh Reynolds bandwagon
What Tua did last night was a lack of mental toughness. The Eagles just giving up when things get tough is a lack of mental toughness. Dak tries to play hero ball when things get tough, which obviously isn't good, but it's not a lack of mental toughnessWoods Ag said:
What do you want to call it?
Ability to perform when your team needs and it matters the most.
You define it then. Idc what's it's called, it doesn't equal
Wins. Real wins…
Dak may be Karl Malone or James Harden. Great in the regular season but we can't find him in the playoffs.
It's a real thing. I'm not saying I'm a clutch gene stud, but I can be honest about others that aren't either. You pay a QB to not just deliver accurate balls but to answer the bell when your team needs it. It's beautiful to watch when that guy is on the field. The deliver when it really matters. They will their teams to a new level. Every championship team has it bc no one wins without getting punched in the mouth.
Wins. Real wins…
Dak may be Karl Malone or James Harden. Great in the regular season but we can't find him in the playoffs.
It's a real thing. I'm not saying I'm a clutch gene stud, but I can be honest about others that aren't either. You pay a QB to not just deliver accurate balls but to answer the bell when your team needs it. It's beautiful to watch when that guy is on the field. The deliver when it really matters. They will their teams to a new level. Every championship team has it bc no one wins without getting punched in the mouth.
DC has the Lions playing fierce.
FightinFarrier18 said:Youre right. Dez, TO and Witten were bumsHubert J. Farnsworth said:
Dak has had some good teams since taking over. Romo would have done more with these teams than Dak.
I would argue that Dak has had better overall teams than Romo ever had. Especially on defense.
Look past your Dak hate for 2 seconds to see that the entire team disappeared in the first half. We get it, Dak played poorly. Romo was the same way. The team doesn't need new players, it needs new coaching that will change the soft, weak culture that McCarthy and Garrett instilled in the team.Woods Ag said:
You define it then. Idc what's it's called, it doesn't equal
Wins. Real wins…
Dak may be Karl Malone or James Harden. Great in the regular season but we can't find him in the playoffs
I really think we need to consider trading Parsons and load up on draft picks. Love the guy but three years in a row his production declined late in the year and was nonexistent in the playoffs.
I'd agree with the defense last year, but this years defense just disappeared in the second half of the seasonHubert J. Farnsworth said:FightinFarrier18 said:Youre right. Dez, TO and Witten were bumsHubert J. Farnsworth said:
Dak has had some good teams since taking over. Romo would have done more with these teams than Dak.
I would argue that Dak has had better overall teams than Romo ever had. Especially on defense.
You aren't wrong in this thinking, but you also cannot continue to shove a square peg in a round hole. What's the point of winning 10+ games a year if we're going to go limp dick in the playoffs because your QB throws picks and your defense gets treated liked a red headed step child. You have to have some big nuts, put them on the table and swing big. You have to be okay not being good.
Here's the discussion from last year's playoff loss. Same **** different year
https://texags.com/forums/23/topics/3317312/75#discussion
https://texags.com/forums/23/topics/3317312/75#discussion
I don't have Dak hate...
Are you ready to give Dak 50-70m a year over the course of his next contract? Look at the salary cap and realize what that means.
I've watched almost all of Dak's games. I attended his very first game. I love this team only second to the Aggies.
Did you watch KC this year? They won 11 games with no wide receivers, awful tackles, and a quickly aging TE. That team was carried by a great offensive play caller and phenom QB. Do you think Dak is ready to be that guy? Because paying him that contract means that what you got.
They have Patrick Mahomes, Chris Jones, Travis Kelce, and 3 interior offensive linemen that make money. The rest are drafted guys on new deals. Can Dak win with that? He can't even do it with what we have now... We will lose talent to pay him the next contract.
Are you ready to give Dak 50-70m a year over the course of his next contract? Look at the salary cap and realize what that means.
I've watched almost all of Dak's games. I attended his very first game. I love this team only second to the Aggies.
Did you watch KC this year? They won 11 games with no wide receivers, awful tackles, and a quickly aging TE. That team was carried by a great offensive play caller and phenom QB. Do you think Dak is ready to be that guy? Because paying him that contract means that what you got.
They have Patrick Mahomes, Chris Jones, Travis Kelce, and 3 interior offensive linemen that make money. The rest are drafted guys on new deals. Can Dak win with that? He can't even do it with what we have now... We will lose talent to pay him the next contract.
Macarthur said:
I really think we need to consider trading Parsons and load up on draft picks. Love the guy but three years in a row his production declined late in the year and was nonexistent in the playoffs.
I agree. It would suck to lose him but it could possibly pay off in a big way.
FightinFarrier18 said:Look past your Dak hate for 2 seconds to see that the entire team disappeared in the first half. We get it, Dak played poorly. Romo was the same way. The team doesn't need new players, it needs new coaching that will change the soft, weak culture that McCarthy and Garrett instilled in the team.Woods Ag said:
You define it then. Idc what's it's called, it doesn't equal
Wins. Real wins…
Dak may be Karl Malone or James Harden. Great in the regular season but we can't find him in the playoffs
That weak culture has been a hallmark of this franchise since the Gailey years. The brief reprieve we had during the Parcells years, which was a complete 180, completely exposed the underlying rot festering in this organization as multiple players had complete mental breakdowns. I can only imagine how these Hot Boyz will react after Belichick benches their arses after the first practice they start blowing assignments and containments chasing sacks
This the first year in a while where I can honestly say I'd be fine with any number of moves. In my mind, the team looked totally out schemed a few times this season. Green Bay put it on full display. There's plenty of high character talented players on this team. Focusing on the QB is typical. But wouldn't be so much easier for Dak if he was throwing to wide ass open receivers like Love was today?
I've been a big MM supporter up until today. This staff was exposed big time. And with BB and Vrabel sitting out there you can't run it back with these guys.
I've been a big MM supporter up until today. This staff was exposed big time. And with BB and Vrabel sitting out there you can't run it back with these guys.
Look at the QB market now. If you want a proven QB, you HAVE to pay that much. Every team has to deal with it (hence why the chiefs have no WRs to throw to). Now tell me which QB you think is attainable, cheaper, and moves the needle from DakWoods Ag said:
I don't have Dak hate...
Are you ready to give Dak 50-70m a year over the course of his next contract? Look at the salary cap and realize what that means.
I've watched almost all of Dak's games. I attended his very first game. I love this team only second to the Aggies.
Did you watch KC this year? They won 11 games with no wide receivers, awful tackles, and a quickly aging TE. That team was carried by a great offensive play caller and phenom QB. Do you think Dak is ready to be that guy? Because paying him that contract means that what you got.
They have Patrick Mahomes, Chris Jones, Travis Kelce, and 3 interior offensive linemen that make money. The rest are drafted guys on new deals. Can Dak win with that? He can't even do it with what we have now... We will lose talent to pay him the next contract.
Not a chance in hell I'd pay Dak with Mahomes money. No ****ing way. Let him try to get it somewhere else. Elite regular season QB. Dog **** playoff QB.
I am amazed at the parity the NFL has created. A 7 seed absolutely blew out a 2 seed.
Hard cap leagues create such an even playing field.
Hard cap leagues create such an even playing field.
LOSERS have to pay that much… and they do.
Because losers are paying that doesn't mean we HAVE to. Start making calls and find out what it takes to be 1 or 2 in the draft.
Because losers are paying that doesn't mean we HAVE to. Start making calls and find out what it takes to be 1 or 2 in the draft.
Wabs said:
Not a chance in hell I'd pay Dak with Mahomes money. No ****ing way. Let him try to get it somewhere else. Elite regular season QB. Dog **** playoff QB.
This. He's been the QB for 8 years and hasn't delivered in the playoffs.
NFL teams don't allow QBs of Dak's caliber to walk. It just doesnt happen. It's just a gigantic waste of time to talk about it. The level of hopelessness that comes with returning to QB hell just isn't something any owner/GM will willingly entertain without massive compensation.Wabs said:
Not a chance in hell I'd pay Dak with Mahomes money. No ****ing way. Let him try to get it somewhere else. Elite regular season QB. Dog **** playoff QB.
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#1 in the draft to draft who? There's not a QB in this draft worth that. If you want to talk about next year when Weigman, Ewers, etc. go into the draft then that's a conversation I'd be willing to have. There's no one in this years draft worth gambling that much forWoods Ag said:
LOSERS have to pay that much… and they do.
Because losers are paying that doesn't mean we HAVE to. Start making calls and find out what it takes to be 1 or 2 in the draft.
100% this. You don't all the sudden become a clutch QB overnight. There is absolutely no reason to pay him at this point for performances like this afternoon.Hubert J. Farnsworth said:Wabs said:
Not a chance in hell I'd pay Dak with Mahomes money. No ****ing way. Let him try to get it somewhere else. Elite regular season QB. Dog **** playoff QB.
This. He's been the QB for 8 years and hasn't delivered in the playoffs.
I'm not sure its parity anymore than its Dallas doing what Dallas does in the playoffs. 1st time a #7 has ever beaten a #2Pignorant said:
I am amazed at the parity the NFL has created. A 7 seed absolutely blew out a 2 seed.
Hard cap leagues create such an even playing field.
Caleb Williams has been the #1 pick in this draft for 3 years… if not him kick the tires on Drake Maye and Jaylin Daniels.
It's considered a good QB draft. You also have Penix and McCarthy
It's considered a good QB draft. You also have Penix and McCarthy
Just called a false start on Detroit on a play way less blatant than what was called on cowboys defense.
If only the refs hadn't screwed us, amirite?
Indeed. Just pointing out inconsistencies.
Woods Ag said:
I don't have Dak hate...
Are you ready to give Dak 50-70m a year over the course of his next contract? Look at the salary cap and realize what that means.
I've watched almost all of Dak's games. I attended his very first game. I love this team only second to the Aggies.
Did you watch KC this year? They won 11 games with no wide receivers, awful tackles, and a quickly aging TE. That team was carried by a great offensive play caller and phenom QB. Do you think Dak is ready to be that guy? Because paying him that contract means that what you got.
They have Patrick Mahomes, Chris Jones, Travis Kelce, and 3 interior offensive linemen that make money. The rest are drafted guys on new deals. Can Dak win with that? He can't even do it with what we have now... We will lose talent to pay him the next contract.
Kansas City won largely because of their defense this year. They won a bunch of relatively low scoring 1-2 score games.
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I know. They drafted some players on defense lately
I'm up in Missouri so I get a daily dose from fans. We go to church on Sunday and 90% of the congregation is in Chiefs jerseys… in August… I live 3 hours from KC!
I'm up in Missouri so I get a daily dose from fans. We go to church on Sunday and 90% of the congregation is in Chiefs jerseys… in August… I live 3 hours from KC!
Dak said "if you are looking at McCarthy's job, you'd need to look at his as well."
Bet he doesn't have those sentiments in the contract negotiations. He's definitely not taking a team friendly deal
Bet he doesn't have those sentiments in the contract negotiations. He's definitely not taking a team friendly deal
wangus12 said:
Dak said "if you are looking at McCarthy's job, you'd need to look at his as well."
Bet he doesn't have those sentiments in the contract negotiations. He's definitely not taking a team friendly deal
Would you? How much of a discount would you give your employer knowing you could make more?
It always amazes me how readily fans are willing to sacrifice OTHER people's money.
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No agent worth a damn is going to negotiate a team friendly deal. Deshaun Watson reset the QB market and it's only going to get worsewangus12 said:
Dak said "if you are looking at McCarthy's job, you'd need to look at his as well."
Bet he doesn't have those sentiments in the contract negotiations. He's definitely not taking a team friendly deal
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