*******Official 2023 Dallas Cowboys Season Thread*******

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BMX Bandit
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agree with that. so dallas v phillly/tb and bills v KC sunday.
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Woods Ag said:

Jeez. We have to stop Aaron Jones today.

I'm so damn nervous with our safety-sized linebackers... lol




If the Packers win it won't be because of Aaron Jones. Playoff games are decided by turnover margin and explosivity/efficiency metrics in the passing game.
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GO COWBOYS!!!


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Infection_Ag11 said:

Woods Ag said:

Jeez. We have to stop Aaron Jones today.

I'm so damn nervous with our safety-sized linebackers... lol




If the Packers win it won't be because of Aaron Jones. Playoff games are decided by turnover margin and explosivity/efficiency metrics in the passing game.


It absolutely will be about stopping Aaron Jones. Balanced offenses have given this defense fits this season. If we're able to stop Jones, the D will create negative plays and turnovers. If not, it's going to be a shootout or a long day.
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gigem1223 said:

Infection_Ag11 said:

Woods Ag said:

Jeez. We have to stop Aaron Jones today.

I'm so damn nervous with our safety-sized linebackers... lol




If the Packers win it won't be because of Aaron Jones. Playoff games are decided by turnover margin and explosivity/efficiency metrics in the passing game.


It absolutely will be about stopping Aaron Jones. Balanced offenses have given this defense fits this season. If we're able to stop Jones, the D will create negative plays and turnovers. If not, it's going to be a shootout or a long day.


The running game is the one area Green Bay can take advantage. And Jones always torches the Cowboys.
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BMX Bandit said:

agree with that. so dallas v phillly/tb and bills v KC sunday.


Gotta hope the Rams pull off the upset. Don't feel great about a Detroit rematch.
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jr15aggie said:

So I watched a shortened 30 minute version of the legendary 92 NFC Championship game last night.

I gotta be honest, my memory of how good Madden and Summerall were did not match up with how I felt about it now. Madden was fine, but man alive, Pat was just so monotone. He just sat there and called the game like he was reading a stat sheet... a 40 yard pass play was announced the same as a 2 yard run.

I guess that was the appeal back then... Pat calls every play with calm consistency and then Madden comes in and spices it up.

IMO, that style doesn't hold up anymore. But back in the day they were simply the best... no doubt they had a big impact in how games are called today. Perhaps that makes them the GOAT, but I was surprised at how boring it felt. I much prefer to watch highlights of that game with Brad Sham's audio.


Summerall came from an era when broadcasters didn't step on the game, they announced it. Summerall, Jackson, Nantz, Michaels. The best of the best.

Nowadays it's about how loud a pbp guy can yell for a 5-yard gain. It's less about what's happening on the field and more about being a personality. Every time I hear a modern broadcaster say "He's in the clear!" on a 10-yard run or go bananas on an 8-yard pass, I die a little inside. Gus Johnson is the worst. Dude is the Angel Hernandez of broadcasters. I once watched an entire quarter of him calling them the Michigan State Spiders. Just painful.
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gigem1223 said:

Infection_Ag11 said:

Woods Ag said:

Jeez. We have to stop Aaron Jones today.

I'm so damn nervous with our safety-sized linebackers... lol




If the Packers win it won't be because of Aaron Jones. Playoff games are decided by turnover margin and explosivity/efficiency metrics in the passing game.


It absolutely will be about stopping Aaron Jones. Balanced offenses have given this defense fits this season. If we're able to stop Jones, the D will create negative plays and turnovers. If not, it's going to be a shootout or a long day.


Dallas almost always wins when the other team has more success running the ball since MM has been here. Cowboys games are usually decided by whether Dak or the opposing QB has a better game, which is dictated by either how well Dak/the OL or our pass rush/secondary play. Dallas is undefeated since MM has been here when the defense creates at least one turnover and Dak has a higher adjusted QBR than the opposing QB. That is despite a spectrum of opposition rushing success.

The number of myths surrounding the Cowboys run stoping woes, and the significance of those woes, is fascinating to me. It's also a myth that running the ball well makes you throw the ball better. The stats show this just isn't true. All that matter is that you try to run the ball. Whether you run for 3 or 5 or 7 YPC it has virtually no statistical impact on passing success or the success of playaction.

Aaron Jones can run for 150 yards and Dallas will still likely win if Dak outplays Love and the defense creates at least one turnover.
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aginlakeway said:

Seven Costanza said:

aginlakeway said:

Curious ... IF the Cowboys win today, any idea if the game next week would be on Saturday or Sunday?

I'm thinking the dates/times for next weekend's games at Dallas and at SF may be set tonight IF the Cowboys win today, with opponents TBD.
I could be wrong, but I think the Saturday games get much lower ratings than Sunday games.

My guess would be:

Saturday afternoon: Baltimore/Houston
Saturday night: SF/TB/Phi
Sunday afternoon: Dallas/Detroit
Sunday night: KC/Buffalo (winner of the Buffalo game this week almost certainly gets a Sunday game due to having to play on Monday)


I don't think the NFL will make the Monday NFC winner play on Saturday.


Ah that's right. I forgot about the other Monday game.
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If I'm busting you for 4-5 yards a carry and you have to commit to bringing more down into the box to stop the run it absolutely makes it easier for Jordan Love to complete passes down the field.

I don't even know how you begin to argue against that.

Also, we win when they commit a turnover. They aren't pressured to make a play down the field if Aaron Jones is controlling the game on the ground. They also wear our defense out and it's ****in demoralizing as hell to get punched in the teeth over and over again and not be able to do anything about it. That's how you break a teams will.

And if they are racking up time of possession by controlling the game on the ground, then our offense has less opportunities to score and those opportunities are then more important. More critical that we score means more chances taken which leads to more opportunities for us to turn the ball over.
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I don't even know how you begin to argue against that.


Because decades worth of data says it isn't true.

Yards per carry has virtually no statistical impact on yards per attempt passing, total QBR or completion %. Rushing attempts do, but only to a point. At a pass/run ratio greater than 1.6 or so you start to see passing statistics dip. But how successful you are when you do run doesn't really matter, the defense still bites on playaction and it still impacts the eyes of safeties and linebackers and DC playcalling.

The reason you (and many others) perceive Dallas to be more successful when they "stop the run" isn't because they are actually stopping the run any better or worse than usual, it's because they tend to get up by big margins and snowball teams who then stop TRYING to run. And they get up by big margins because of turnovers and Dak Prescott. In close games, Dallas still usually wins regardless of how well the other team runs as long as Dak plays better than the other QB.
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Also, another big reason why rushing success doesn't correlate much with winning is because very, very few play callers will truly "run until the defense stops it" and they say. Pass/run ratios don't vary much situationally with respect to individual play callers no matter how well they are running. Guys that call normal games (ie not blowouts) at a 55/45 pass/run clip won't change more than 5% points either way regardless of how well the run game is going. Even Sean McVay, who is perceived to be the "run til you stop it" king, essentially never dips below a certain percentage of passes no matter how many YPC his backs are averaging.
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Infection_Ag11 said:

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I don't even know how you begin to argue against that.


The reason you (and many others) perceive Dallas to be more successful when they "stop the run" isn't because they are actually stopping the run any better or worse than usual, it's because they tend to get up by big margins and snowball teams who then stop TRYING to run. And they get up by big margins because of turnovers and Dak Prescott. In close games, Dallas still usually wins regardless of how well the other team runs as long as Dak plays better than the other QB.
Bingo, this Dallas team (more than just about any other team I can think of) is built to take leads and then feast on passing situations.
Having Hankins back is definitely huge for our run stopping, though.
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This is a legacy game for Dak Prescott.
He either moves ahead or behind Tony Romo when it comes to playoff winning percentage.

Does Dak live up to his 2nd Team All Pro Nod?
or does he start to become known as someone that is only good in the regular season?

We will know the answer in about 3.5 hours.
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Let's trade anyone possible to move up in the draft.
jr15aggie
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This is approaching "burn the whole thing down" territory.

Seriously.
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I'm about to that point too. It's either that or tie your whole salary cap up in 3 guys and try to fill a roster.
Tksymm7
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It's time to move on.
ChemAg15
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Well that's ballgame. Trade anyone with value, cut everyone else, tell Dak he can go milk some other schmuck team for millions.
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Well this was disappointing, to say the least
Grapesoda2525
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Blow it up

Fire everyone

ChemAg15
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Oh and fire the entire coaching staff
Grapesoda2525
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GB isn't even very good. This is a epic massive choke.
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You ****ing **** on me, but it's always the same thing every playoffs. And then a little time goes by, some dip**** with a radio show/podcast makes a video about how it isn't Dak, and everyone buys back in.. he plays well in regular season and then he can't lead when it matters.
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This week is going to be a disaster
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I think you seriously have to consider moving major pieces this offseason.
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jr15aggie said:

This is approaching "burn the whole thing down" territory.

Seriously.

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Tksymm7 said:

I think you seriously have to consider moving major pieces this offseason.
this.
No matter what!
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
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I hope the roads freeze over. Nobody wants to go to work / school after this *****
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Macarthur said:

Let's get this thing going.


It was fun while it lasted.
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Trade Dak and Ceedee for 1st rounders?

Use those picks to move up for a QB?
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BenFiasco14 said:

Macarthur said:

Let's get this thing going.


It was fun while it lasted.
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Need Coach Harris to give the halftime speech

You just got your asses whipped by a bunch of damn nerds! Nerds!
Now if I were you I would go out there and redeem myaelf in the eyes of my maker,my father and my coach!

Hubert J. Farnsworth
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Did y'all see Jimmy at halftime and what he would tell the Cowboys in this situation? I got fired up hearing it.
Macarthur
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Remember how we said you can't trade parsons? If this ends today, everything has to be on the table.
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