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Why Bill B is vastly overrated
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Last: 1 yr ago by Matt_ag98
I agree BoB is vastly overrated.....but I don't understand your point, or what you're getting at? He was at the Patriot only from 2007 to 2011 and was the OC for only 2011. The only year the Patriots didn't make the playoffs was 08 when Brady went down for the season at the beginning of the year, So he's never had a playoff appearance at the Patriots without Brady?
Mike Tomlin and John Harbaugh are overrated
Only thing Belicheck is underrated on is just how big of an ahole he is
Only thing Belicheck is underrated on is just how big of an ahole he is
Pats have been in salary cap hell emerging from the win-now mentality at the end of the Brady era + Breaking in a new QB
Brady didn't master the salary cap, scheme defenses to take away the other teams best guy, and scheme offenses to specifically attack a defense' weakness. There were literally games where the Pats would run the ball 40 times and throw it 10 followed the next week by throwing it 40 and running it 10. Belichik knows every single little rule and exploits all of them to his team's advantage. Sometimes he just exploits weird rules for fun, like Doug Flutie drop kicking an XP.
Brady is the GOAT on the field no doubt, but Belichick is a freaking football genius.
Brady is the GOAT on the field no doubt, but Belichick is a freaking football genius.
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it helps the Pats/Brady/Belicheck that Brady took a lower salary for most of his career so the Pats could allocate those extra salary cap dollars to other positions
I think he was an amazing defensive mind. As an offensive coach, I mostly credit Brady for their success.
Went out on a limb with that hot take
If the Pats parted ways with Belichick, approximately 31 teams would be fumbling over themselves to explore some options.
So, does this mean that Bill Walsh was overrated, because he never won any playoff games without Joe Montana?
Smeghead4761 said:
So, does this mean that Bill Walsh was overrated, because he never won any playoff games without Joe Montana?
Bill Walsh created an entire offense system that is still used today.
BB created an entire defensive scheme that is still used
wow imagine that
wow imagine that
The Pats were bailed out by Brady too many times to count.
MookieBlaylock said:
BB created an entire defensive scheme that is still used
wow imagine that
No he didn't. He didn't "create" an entire system like the west coast offense. He is a great defense mind, true, but was never an architect of an entire system.
What are you talking about
He created a defense to stop the Bills and it's even in the Hall Of Fame
Then he did the SE things to the Rams
Go back to watching terrible basketball teams
He created a defense to stop the Bills and it's even in the Hall Of Fame
Then he did the SE things to the Rams
Go back to watching terrible basketball teams
We are talking about creating an ENTIRE system that has lasted 40 years, not a game plan for a super bowl. You just like arguing to argue.
IrishAg said:
I agree BoB is vastly overrated.....but I don't understand your point, or what you're getting at? He was at the Patriot only from 2007 to 2011 and was the OC for only 2011. The only year the Patriots didn't make the playoffs was 08 when Brady went down for the season at the beginning of the year, So he's never had a playoff appearance at the Patriots without Brady?
Think this is about Bellicek, not Bill O'Brien.
Yeah, I did figure that out, but I decided to say screw it and just leave it up there lol98Ag99Grad said:IrishAg said:
I agree BoB is vastly overrated.....but I don't understand your point, or what you're getting at? He was at the Patriot only from 2007 to 2011 and was the OC for only 2011. The only year the Patriots didn't make the playoffs was 08 when Brady went down for the season at the beginning of the year, So he's never had a playoff appearance at the Patriots without Brady?
Think this is about Bellicek, not Bill O'Brien.
Excellent reply about Obrien though
Lake08 said:
We are talking about creating an ENTIRE system that has lasted 40 years, not a game plan for a super bowl. You just like arguing to argue.
Belicheck is greater than Walsh and has the Rings to prove it
Belicheck has adapted and consistently whipped the vaunted West coast offense that is dated
Your are the only person in the world that thinks Belicheck is overrated so maybe you should channel some inner Taylor swift and realize who the problem is
I'm not a huge Belichick fan, but I love his historical perspective that he shares very infrequently. He was great in the AFL documentary.
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MookieBlaylock said:
Mike Tomlin and John Harbaugh are overrated
Only thing Belicheck is underrated on is just how big of an ahole he is
If you are cool with any cheating he deems necessary
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