*******The Official Houston Texans 2023: The reign of Meco thread************

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What non-statistical metric are you using to state that right now, this year, Mahomes and Allen are better than Stroud?
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AlwaysNextYear89 said:

What non-statistical metric are you using to state that right now, this year, Mahomes and Allen are better than Stroud?
non-statistical metric? What does that even mean?

Our playmakers are 5x what the Chiefs are. And they've played a wildly different schedule than us.

Please don't tell me we have multiple people on this thread who are saying Stroud is a better QB than both Mahomes and Allen. This isn't even a knock on Stroud. But they are two of the best QBs in this era.
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Max Power said:




Love this team.
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Put up their season stats. Stroud has played in 16 games this year and only thrown picks in 3 of them! 3! Did you see the graphic where he led the NFL in YPG and TD/Int ratio this year and was only the 3rd QB to do that in the last 50 years? The other two? Some dudes named Montana and Brady. That's what I mean by using something other than statistics to make your claim. It's not hard to argue that he is playing as well as any QB in the AFC.
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Buck Compton said:

AlwaysNextYear89 said:

What non-statistical metric are you using to state that right now, this year, Mahomes and Allen are better than Stroud?
non-statistical metric? What does that even mean?

Our playmakers are 5x what the Chiefs are. And they've played a wildly different schedule than us.

Please don't tell me we have multiple people on this thread who are saying Stroud is a better QB than both Mahomes and Allen. This isn't even a knock on Stroud. But they are two of the best QBs in this era.

My only argument on this is the playmakers. Ask anybody before the season who had better playmakers on offense chiefs or Texans and 100% of them would say the chiefs. QBs can elevate the play of playmakers. None of the guys on the Texans had done anything of note before this year. I do agree outside of rice the chiefs receivers are horrible.
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mAgnoliAg said:

Buck Compton said:

AlwaysNextYear89 said:

What non-statistical metric are you using to state that right now, this year, Mahomes and Allen are better than Stroud?
non-statistical metric? What does that even mean?

Our playmakers are 5x what the Chiefs are. And they've played a wildly different schedule than us.

Please don't tell me we have multiple people on this thread who are saying Stroud is a better QB than both Mahomes and Allen. This isn't even a knock on Stroud. But they are two of the best QBs in this era.

My only argument on this is the playmakers. Ask anybody before the season who had better playmakers on offense chiefs or Texans and 100% of them would say the chiefs. QBs can elevate the play of playmakers. None of the guys on the Texans had done anything of note before this year. I do agree outside of rice the chiefs receivers are horrible.
That's fair. But the talent has shown to be on the Texans. I mean, Kadarious Toney has cost Mahomes multiple missed TDs and two INTs right through his hands just off the top of my head. MVS is awful. Hardman is bad now. Rice emerged this year, and of course Kelce is good, but teams that can play man key on Kelce and shut the offense down. Pacheco has been running well, but chiefs don't use whom correctly, IMO.
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Buck Compton said:

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The Texans are a team nobody wants to play. With everyone playing they may have the best defense left in the AFC. They are capable of totally stopping the run. And CJ is better than the QB he will face in the next round.
Okay, put down the sauce, man.

We could end up playing Mahomes.


KC is probably our best bet outside of hosting the Fins which is highly unlikely

They haven't been good this year
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gougler08 said:

Buck Compton said:

LincolnBorglum79 said:

The Texans are a team nobody wants to play. With everyone playing they may have the best defense left in the AFC. They are capable of totally stopping the run. And CJ is better than the QB he will face in the next round.
Okay, put down the sauce, man.

We could end up playing Mahomes.


KC is probably our best bet outside of hosting the Fins which is highly unlikely

They haven't been good this year
KC's defense is elite. But agreed, would rather play them instead of ravens or bills.

And the sauce I was telling him to put down were the claims about stroud and the defense.
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We'll have to play Baltimore at some point the next two weeks in order to get to the Super Bowl… so to me it doesn't matter who we play next week.
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Buck Compton said:

gougler08 said:

Buck Compton said:

LincolnBorglum79 said:

The Texans are a team nobody wants to play. With everyone playing they may have the best defense left in the AFC. They are capable of totally stopping the run. And CJ is better than the QB he will face in the next round.
Okay, put down the sauce, man.

We could end up playing Mahomes.


KC is probably our best bet outside of hosting the Fins which is highly unlikely

They haven't been good this year
KC's defense is elite. But agreed, would rather play them instead of ravens or bills.

And the sauce I was telling him to put down were the claims about stroud and the defense.

KC was #2, to Cleveland.

Honestly, I want no part of KC or Baltimore. But I'd rather face KC of the two. I'd prefer Buffalo more than either of them though.
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I think buffalo's offense the second half of the year is going to be extremely hard to defend. Hoping PIT uses the elements and finds a way to pull the upset.
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tjack16 said:

We'll have to play Baltimore at some point the next two weeks in order to get to the Super Bowl… so to me it doesn't matter who we play next week.

Also might be better to get them after basically 2 weeks off. Also not as cold in Baltimore next week as it is in KC.
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I think the improvement by the Texans is nothing short of spectacular but they just don't have the juice to go Super Bowling. Hope I'm wrong. They have already surprised me well beyond expectations

Will be shocked if the Ravens aren't the AFC Super Bowl team
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I think Stroud is better than Mahomes, but not as good as peak Mahomes. The receivers arent good, but there were a lot of times this year where Mahomes has looked like Flacco did today, and almost like his arm was hurt or something.
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So with kc winning our options are

Pitt wins and we play at kc
Buffalo wins and we play at ravens

Yes?
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Yes
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Ok so Baltimore rolls with dominant o line play, Lamar Jackson improv, and great defense. If our d line doesn't get manhandled I think we have a chance. We played them week 1 but both of these offenses are different animals now.
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Sea Speed said:

It surprises me that long time past players still want anything to do with the until recently dumpster fire of an org, and seemed to really care about the organization.


You're such the biggest wet blanket…you have changed your name on here, had staff delete all of your posts…go to Brazil, and kindly stfu…you're exhausting.
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Changed name?
MelvinUdall
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He changed his name and had his history wiped from this site…he won't admit it…
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At near full strength the Texans defense right now is playing very well and should give KC or Baltimore a great challenge next Sunday. CJ is playing better than Mahomes this season and will give the chiefs defense fits like he did the Browns defense today. If Tank Dell wasn't hurt he would be even more dangerous.

The Steelers have won like 8 of the last 9 games vs Baltimore so there is still a chance for a Steelers at Texans afc title game at NRG. But the most likely matchups are Houston at Baltimore and KC at Buffalo. Cleveland beat Baltimore so we will see.
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MelvinUdall said:

Sea Speed said:

It surprises me that long time past players still want anything to do with the until recently dumpster fire of an org, and seemed to really care about the organization.


You're such the biggest wet blanket…you have changed your name on here, had staff delete all of your posts…go to Brazil, and kindly stfu…you're exhausting.


Wtf? I wasn't even talking **** you psychopath. I think it is pretty cool how the old players seemingly love the organization. Jfc.
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Why would someone have all their posts deleted that's odd? What's the thought process there ?
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For some reason I have my doubts on Stroud playing good in cold weather. He had a horrible game in the cold vs the Jets this year.

When looking at the weather forecast for next weekend, the weather in Baltimore looks more favorable than the weather in KC.

Plus, I just feel a game in KC vs Mahonnes will be harder to win than playing the Ravens.

Therefore, I want the Bills to beat the Steelers setting the Texans up to play the Ravens next weekend in Baltimore.
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Uh oh, an intern just showed David Tepper the highlights.

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Houston Lee said:

For some reason I have my doubts on Stroud playing good in cold weather. He had a horrible game in the cold vs the Jets this year.

When looking at the weather forecast for next weekend, the weather in Baltimore looks more favorable than the weather in KC.

Plus, I just feel a game in KC vs Mahonnes will be harder to win than playing the Ravens.

Therefore, I want the Bills to beat the Steelers setting the Texans up to play the Ravens next weekend in Baltimore.


You do realize he played at Ohio state in college right?
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The Jets game was due to driving rain, not cold. We had no run game, couldn't slow down the Jets run game, and the defense got worn out.
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Hahahahaha, that look that MJD gave him
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I saw that live last night and tried to rewind to show the gf, but I hit the wrong button and closed the app. Thanks for posting
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