Kid just graduated and every job that I filter for "entry level" has several years experience required.

Last one I looked at said "8 years"...wtf?

Any sites that actually have true entry level jobs or do we just have to sift through tons of noise to find a gem?

Please have them watch this short overview of Former Student Career Services
introducing career and networking resources to help Former Student.

Networking and referrals will go farther than any website ever will.

Thanks 78bc3

The website Handshake posts jobs for college students and recent grads. Maybe your son will have better luck on there, but it might be more of a website for internships.

Unfortunately, LinkedIn and indeed are the top 2 sites for jobs. You'll just have to sort through them.

Marauder Blue 6 said:

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Networking and referrals will go farther than any website ever will.

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this is not true I specifically used an entry level job site and got hired and made a career out of it.

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Marauder Blue 6 said:

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Networking and referrals will go farther than any website ever will.

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this is not true I specifically used an entry level job site and got hired and made a career out of it.

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For the most part, it is true. If it wasn't, those hundreds of jobs I've applied for online in the last 8 years would have worked out instead of the 1 referral I got my current job from.

OP - did the department/college your kid graduate from encourage them to look for jobs starting in senior year?

I'm honestly just curious because in the engineering school it's promoted all the time to start looking ASAP for interns/jobs as soon as you start the fall semester.

Marauder Blue 6 said:

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Networking and referrals will go farther than any website ever will.

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I've landed two very good jobs from this board. One of which I still work at today. Use all your resources.. those job sites are great. But don't forget the power of the Aggie Network and don't be afraid to just talk to people. You never know.

Also FWIW.. those job listings that require X amout of years of experience are usually just trying to filter people out. Apply anyways. Trust me.

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LarryElder said:

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Marauder Blue 6 said:

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Networking and referrals will go farther than any website ever will.

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this is not true I specifically used an entry level job site and got hired and made a career out of it.

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For the most part, it is true. If it wasn't, those hundreds of jobs I've applied for online in the last 8 years would have worked out instead of the 1 referral I got my current job fro

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Networking and referrals how many new grads in the workforce are getting those? this is bad advice here.

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LarryElder said:

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Marauder Blue 6 said:

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Networking and referrals will go farther than any website ever will.

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this is not true I specifically used an entry level job site and got hired and made a career out of it.

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For the most part, it is true. If it wasn't, those hundreds of jobs I've applied for online in the last 8 years would have worked out instead of the 1 referral I got my current job fro

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Networking and referrals how many new grads in the workforce are getting those? this is bad advice here.

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Nowhere near as bad as relying only on a website. Networking and referrals are superior to websites regardless of career stage.

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LarryElder said:

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Marauder Blue 6 said:

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Networking and referrals will go farther than any website ever will.

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this is not true I specifically used an entry level job site and got hired and made a career out of it.

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For the most part, it is true. If it wasn't, those hundreds of jobs I've applied for online in the last 8 years would have worked out instead of the 1 referral I got my current job fro

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Networking and referrals how many new grads in the workforce are getting those? this is bad advice here.

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Nowhere near as bad as relying only on a website. Networking and referrals are superior to websites regardless of career stage.

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This. Why would I hire a random someone if I know of someone else that I have information on (outside of a resume) based on a relationship?

No clue what my kids career center told him, I've given him a ton of advice and he seems to have short term amnesia.

He did work throughout school and had an internship this last semester, so at least he has a decent resume for a recent grad.

Spot on in terms of experience on job listings. A job posting may list 10 "requirements." In truth, no candidate who gets the job will meet all 10 requirements….they may meet half. If they met all 10 requirements, they would/should be applying for positions another rung or 2 up.

New grads and those not fortunate to have interned during college won't have the connections and networking opportunities you speak of, must absolutely apply online especially to MIT programs and entry level jobs.

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New grads and those not fortunate to have interned during college won't have the connections and networking opportunities you speak of, must absolutely apply online especially to MIT programs and entry level jobs.

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Based on your comments regarding new grads failing because they don't have connections.
Extending that line of thinking you believe ALL new salespeople FAIL. That's not the case.
At some companies new hires are trained to assess needs, prepared to make effective calls, to follow-up, and to develop close techniques that help them understand the sales (networking) process. They learn to focus on the prospects needs rather than asking for the sale because they need a paycheck(a job), Properly prepared new reps close sales and can build repeat business.

IF you watch the video offered above, we hope you will see resources and strategy based on understanding hiring managers needs and resources to help seekers position themselves to have a better opportunity to be discovered.

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Spot on in terms of experience on job listings. A job posting may list 10 "requirements." In truth, no candidate who gets the job will meet all 10 requirements….they may meet half. If they met all 10 requirements, they would/should be applying for positions another rung or 2 up.

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Bingo

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New grads and those not fortunate to have interned during college won't have the connections and networking opportunities you speak of, must absolutely apply online especially to MIT programs and entry level jobs.

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New grads not having connections and networking under their belt by the time they graduate is no ones fault but their own. Even w/o an internship, there are A LOT of oppourtunities for kids to network and meet alumnus at their department events.

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New grads and those not fortunate to have interned during college won't have the connections and networking opportunities you speak of, must absolutely apply online especially to MIT programs and entry level jobs.

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New grads not having connections and networking under their belt by the time they graduate is no ones fault but their own. Even w/o an internship, there are A LOT of oppourtunities for kids to network and meet alumnus at their department events.

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Yeah that sounds nice on paper but what if you are working to put yourself through school ? Also simply knowing someone won't get you a job

And you think simply dumping your resume into a pool of 100+ on an online portal will?

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Networking and referrals will go farther than any website ever will.

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this is not true I specifically used an entry level job site and got hired and made a career out of it.

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This comment, and the rest of the resulting discussion, are absolutely bizarre.

Yes, I'm sure some people get hired from websites ask you to upload a resume, then on the next page type out everything that's in the same resume you just uploaded... but not nearly as many as with connections and referrals.

I'll even agree that it's harder for a recent grad to leverage relationships than someone more experienced, but networking is much much more likely to generate an interview than blindly filling out applications, pounding the pavement, or handing out resumes at an intersection.

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Marauder Blue 6 said:

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Networking and referrals will go farther than any website ever will.

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this is not true I specifically used an entry level job site and got hired and made a career out of it.

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This comment, and the rest of the resulting discussion, are absolutely bizarre.

Yes, I'm sure some people get hired from websites ask you to upload a resume, then on the next page type out everything that's in the same resume you just uploaded... but not nearly as many as with connections and referrals.

I'll even agree that it's harder for a recent grad to leverage relationships than someone more experienced, but networking is much much more likely to generate an interview than blindly filling out applications, pounding the pavement, or handing out resumes at an intersection.

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Yeah take me through that. You go to some event as an 20 or 21 kid about to get out of college make surface level introductions maybe follow up with an email and hope the company that company is hiring at some point and said person remember you? Now if you are talking about a family connection or some other aspect of your network fine but there is a big myth around surface level networking.

Simply delusional

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And you think simply dumping your resume into a pool of 100+ on an online portal will?

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Think for a new grad its better than wasting time to going to events and making superficial connections. I know companies often specifically look for new grads so throw your resume in and head to job fairs.

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And you think simply dumping your resume into a pool of 100+ on an online portal will?

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Think for a new grad its better than wasting time to going to events and making superficial connections. I know companies often specifically look for new grads so throw your resume in and head to job fairs.

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If any new grads are reading this, take nothing this poster has said regarding employment to heart. He is completely out of touch on the topic.

NETWORK, NETWORK, NETWORK.

Attend the Aggie events in your city. Attend your department's gatherings. Post on TexAgs.

I'll bet damn good money you get a hell of a lot furhter via a contact on TexAgs than you will on a job portal website that has algorithms engaged to weed out resumes by default and never even get in front of an HR lackey.

Ah, gotcha. You're not even worth debating.

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Irish 2.0 said:

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And you think simply dumping your resume into a pool of 100+ on an online portal will?

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Think for a new grad its better than wasting time to going to events and making superficial connections. I know companies often specifically look for new grads so throw your resume in and head to job fairs.

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Brother, respectfully, this is completely wrong.

Two things can be true: You should absolutely check those websites (Indeed, LinkedIn, etc) and also do everything you can to network and attend events. Both are true and neither are a waste of time.

People get jobs from listings on LinkedIn or Indeed all the time. I know lots of people -- including many young adults -- who have gotten awesome jobs that way. No reason not to pursue opportunities there.

But networking is ALSO a great tool and for some folks, a faster route to an offer.

Don't limit yourself. Use all your resources.

OP asked for best job sites for an Entry level positions...Then you all tell him not to do that but offer networking advice smh

All I did was say to use all your resources. I don't know how that's bad advice.

What kind of job are they looking for?

If your version of networking is just introducing yourself to someone, telling them what you're looking for, and then never talking to them again then you're doing it wrong. You'll find that the more you go to events, conferences, meet-ups, etc. the more you see the same people over and over.

Get to know them. That way when they hear about someone in their network hiring they are more likely to remember that person they kept running into at all those events and having conversations with.

If you can't do that for one reason or another, then I offer up the video below. I know several people who have followed the advice in it and landed jobs in an industry that's log jammed at the entry level. The video focuses on the industry I'm in (cybersecurity), but by no means is the advice limited to just cybersecurity. I think there is some solid advice for anyone looking to break into a new industry or just getting started.

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What kind of job are they looking for?

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He wants to get into government bit I think non-profits are a good place to look as well.

Has a BA in Public Admin

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Aggie_jmc said:

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What kind of job are they looking for?

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He wants to get into government bit I think non-profits are a good place to look as well.

Has a BA in Public Admin

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Then it can't be overstated that networking is going to be his biggest tool.