chingon464 said:

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Send resume to: daividochavez@arrowheadadvisors.net

Let me review and get back with you as I am a recruiter

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Thanks, just tried to get in touch and it came back in deliverable.

Pilot Ag said:

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chingon464 said:

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Send resume to: daividochavez@arrowheadadvisors.net

Let me review and get back with you as I am a recruiter

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Thanks, just tried to get in touch and it came back in deliverable.

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Never mind I found the issue

Pilot Ag said:

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i got laid off from a product mgmt role in feb, and since then have applied to close to 100 PM roles via LNKD, indeed, everything. Not a ****ing peep. No follow-up, just the same BS canned "we appreciate your time" email 3 weeks later. My resume is great, I have skills and experience. I just don't get it.

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Is this of any use? West Houston.

Please copy address below and resend
Davidochavez@arrowheadadvisors.net
Or
David.Chavez.dba@gmail.com
Thanks

David

OP and for a few others on this thread. I graduated from A&M in '10, and have worked straight through to today. I'm on my 3rd career and 5th job, and have had the good fortune of only moving when I wanted to do so.

2 of 5 jobs I got with direct connections to the the company, the other 2 jobs were soley a resume, a cover letter, and working HR contacts to get someone to speak to me. Current job I'd call a push, didn't know anyone at the company, used the aggienetwork website and found Aggies who worked there and reached out through it, created a connection and turned it into an in. It's a little bit of both network and approach. Keep your head up, I've been in similar transitions and applied to countless jobs before I got one to bite. Persistence pays off and it's worth your time and effort when it does. Good luck and Gig 'Em.

OP. Any update?

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Every job I ever had in oil and gas, real estate, and what I do now has been from direct contact and word of mouth. My last three corporate gigs were solidified with a phone call on Friday afternoon followed by walking in the door to work Monday. No interview. No BS.

I'm not convinced that online job applications arent the bare minimum attempt at a lazy HR person doing what they were told.

For what it's worth, last month I got a denial notification from a job I applied for in 2017…through LinkedIn. Lol.

It's not you.

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Facts 100%. LinkedIn is the watercooler of the office internet, that is all.

You cannot underestimate the power of a network in getting a job. Also, I've seen a propensity in job reqs to be "specialized" like a PjM in Salesforce or SAP IM/WM.
Anyway give me a holler … I've tons of recruiters calling me maybe I can help an Aggie out

BadMoonRisin said:

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here. going on 6 months in August of unemployment. Laid off Fortune 40 Sales Planning & Operations. I've had a few interviews. One was not a great fit, one would have been a strech role and one was perfect. The company where I had a phone screen, 1 mtg with hiring manager, 1 mtg with other team member I felt like I had the best interviews in my career. Said I would hear back "early next week..."and that week skated by without any news. Sent follow up last Wednesday knowing the hiring manager was on PTO last thurs/friday, but still crickets.

The hiring manager accidently reply all to the HR person and said "I really like [this candidate]! Please schedule him an interview with [other team member ASAP]" and she tried to recall it, then apologized when she couldn't because I had already read it.

I had a good feeling about that one, but it seems to have gone nowhere so Here I am back at square one.

Good luck to all you other there grinding. It's tough out here.

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BadMoonRisin, Pilot Ag, or anyone else really...

I'm not sure where you live, perhaps I missed it. But, if you'd like to give roofing sales and PM a shot, I can get you set up. I am happy to do what I can to help get a Texags user another opportunity.

I did this for a few years while working contract gigs in my field of study. It's wildly flexible. It is a 1099 position and there is no real cost to do it if you have a computer and a truck. Even if you don't, it's not a big deal. You can take it or leave it as you wish. Anyway, I just wanted to throw it out there as an option. If you're in my area I can get you going or if you aren't I can get one of my colleagues. These guys are long term guys, not some random sales guys that showed up last week. We have sales guys that have been doing this for decades, some do it on the side, and everything in between. We have legitimate contracts, and commissions are noted explicitly in them. There isn't any BS with payments. If you don't think the commission is right, office staff will literally show you the books with the costs and profits to verify.

No matter what, keep on doing what you're doing. It HAS to turn around. It will. Hang in there.

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Jason_InfinityRoofer said:

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Every job I ever had in oil and gas, real estate, and what I do now has been from direct contact and word of mouth. My last three corporate gigs were solidified with a phone call on Friday afternoon followed by walking in the door to work Monday. No interview. No BS.

I'm not convinced that online job applications arent the bare minimum attempt at a lazy HR person doing what they were told.

For what it's worth, last month I got a denial notification from a job I applied for in 2017…through LinkedIn. Lol.

It's not you.

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I've never gotten a job based on someone I know or word of mouth. Weird how different it can be for people. I've even been able to switch industries without having an "in". Have I just been lucky for 20 years?

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Didn't see this on the first page. It could simply be that you are an in demand candidate or you're really good at interviewing. Maybe you are top of your field. Could be any number of things you do better than I do. I don't know. I'm not going to hide the fact that I do not interview well. I don't think quickly on my feet. I think slow. When I was put on the spot about previous $10M dollar projects, I drew blanks on some basic project parameters that a lot of folks could rattle off. If I'm being totally honest, I'm just pretty average. My experience and credentials for my O&G gig were on paper but a lot of what I brought to the table wasn't shown in an interview. I worked better under pressure and under short deadlines when people were panicking. I have quick solutions to complicated problems that needed solving right now without a lot of time to fiddle around. That's not overly valuable at the interview table. That may explain why I always got hired by people that already knew me.

Thanks Jason, I appreciate it!

Last Friday I got an email from the HR person and they said that they are interested in next steps but timing may take a little bit longer than planned, so let them know if I have any other offers coming in.

Sounds promising, but im still going to keep grinding cause you never know. I just cleared north of 400 applications. 10 interviews. 1 potential offer. Let's hope! This would be a great next step for my career.

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BadMoonRisin said:

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here. going on 6 months in August of unemployment. Laid off Fortune 40 Sales Planning & Operations. I've had a few interviews. One was not a great fit, one would have been a strech role and one was perfect. The company where I had a phone screen, 1 mtg with hiring manager, 1 mtg with other team member I felt like I had the best interviews in my career. Said I would hear back "early next week..."and that week skated by without any news. Sent follow up last Wednesday knowing the hiring manager was on PTO last thurs/friday, but still crickets.

The hiring manager accidently reply all to the HR person and said "I really like [this candidate]! Please schedule him an interview with [other team member ASAP]" and she tried to recall it, then apologized when she couldn't because I had already read it.

I had a good feeling about that one, but it seems to have gone nowhere so Here I am back at square one.

Good luck to all you other there grinding. It's tough out here.

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Hang in there. I was laid off earlier this year. I completed 600+ applications, 20+ interviews, and that resulted in two offers. I was applying to jobs like the rent was due tomorrow!

My advice is to focus on the local in person jobs. Not sure if youre applying to only remote roles, but theres literally hundreds of applicants within an hour after these remote jobs are posted. Not even worth applying to those unless you have a way in.

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Thanks. Yeah I prefer on-site or hybrid. I worked for 3 years completely 100% remote and hated it. Flexibility was nice, but killed my networking potential and I missed the in-person interactions.

Imagine my surprise when I was laid off 3 days before they re-instituted return-to-site.

I too have the same issue. I've sent out resumes and I've even reached out to people. No luck. At the moment I am working contract in a lab doing quality assurance at chemical plant in Freeport, TX making the bare minimum. I am to the point that I might have to reach out to a recruiter for help.

Just to give you the other side.

I just spent the last 2 months looking for someone to add to our team, preferably living near Tyler. I never for a single instant considered looking at Linkedin, any job boards, Texags, or anything like that. Those resources are worthless to me. Resumes are all so full of poop.

Instead I called a friend who grew up out there and still is connected to everyone. She asked me what I needed, mass texted all her friends, who texted their friends, and a contact came in who was seeking change. He wasn't a good fit.

So I waited a week and another contact came in that I thought was perfect. He has never done what we do, knows nothing at all about what we do, but I liked what he was trying to get out of and what he HAS done in his career.

I flew down and interviewed him over dinner, answered a few questions over the next couple of weeks, and we should be offering him the job tomorrow.


Long story short, you need to be telling everyone you know (except your current job) that you want to change and get your friends to help you. I would never hire someone for our company that didn't come from someone else's recommendation.


Linkedin is fine for a hiring company looking to hire entry level people who have a 75% fail rate. Just bring them in and weed them out. But once you are into a real career it just doesn't really work anymore. Recruiters and friends and friend's friends get you second and third tier jobs, not job boards.