Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

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Billys Cesspool Enjoyer said:

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The amount of time that gets spent on this topic is approaching fetishization levels.

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At one point they begged us to get a shot to protect ourselves. To protect our families. To protect others. Then it went to a govt agency to enforce it. Erosion happens over time and you barely notice it.

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Good point. Keep ****ting on that demographic and see how it turns out for you.

PanzerAggie06 said:

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Awesome.

Stay hyper-focused on the trans issues. That's the winning plan moving forward. Did wonders for the GOP Tuesday night.

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The election is over. It isn't about elections now. But you go ahead and ignore that your party is willfully run by lunatics in increasing numbers. That's going to do wonders for your future. Solid plan.

Billys Cesspool Enjoyer said:

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The amount of time that gets spent on this topic is approaching fetishization levels.

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It is the highlight of Democrat lifestyles these days. Don't run from it.

PanzerAggie06 said:

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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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PanzerAggie06 said:

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Awesome.

Stay hyper-focused on the trans issues. That's the winning plan moving forward. Did wonders for the GOP Tuesday night.

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Fair enough on your point about the hyper-focus, but do you at least agree that it's ridiculous we've gotten to a point where people like this are winning elections?

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Quite ridiculous. However, for the GOP to be so broken and misaligned that people like this are elected in the first place is just as damning.

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How many mentally ill men stealing spots of women does it take before we should be concerned about it? Is there a minimum threshold you have in mind before we start to worry?

MaroonStain said:

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PanzerAggie06 said:

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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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PanzerAggie06 said:

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Awesome.

Stay hyper-focused on the trans issues. That's the winning plan moving forward. Did wonders for the GOP Tuesday night.

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Fair enough on your point about the hyper-focus, but do you at least agree that it's ridiculous we've gotten to a point where people like this are winning elections?

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Quite ridiculous. However, for the GOP to be so broken and misaligned that people like this are elected in the first place is just as damning.

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Yep. Closed borders and defending the country turned people to vote for mentally ill trollops.

FFS...get your head out of the sand...

Want to blame something? Blame universal suffrage

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Child.

The GOP got straight punked because of Trump fatigue, tariffs, affordability, gas prices, and a "war". Yet the Repubs ran commercial after commercial about trans issues. Clueless.

And what's sadder? The GOP was already winning the trans issues. Hell, even in Colorado two state wide propositions limiting so called "trans rights" passed. However, the GOP completely misread the current environment and went all in on an issue it was winning but was not the primary focus in the election. Hell, numerous polls showed the trans issue didn't make the average voters top 5 concerns.

American Hardwood said:

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PanzerAggie06 said:

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Awesome.

Stay hyper-focused on the trans issues. That's the winning plan moving forward. Did wonders for the GOP Tuesday night.

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The election is over. It isn't about elections now. But you go ahead and ignore that your party is willfully run by lunatics in increasing. That's going to do wonders for your future. Solid plan.

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What's my party?

Men doing the job a real woman can't.

Once again proving the best person for a position is a man.

Billys Cesspool Enjoyer said:

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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

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Billys Cesspool Enjoyer said:

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The amount of time that gets spent on this topic is approaching fetishization levels.

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At one point they begged us to get a shot to protect ourselves. To protect our families. To protect others. Then it went to a govt agency to enforce it. Erosion happens over time and you barely notice it.

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Good point. Keep ****ting on that demographic and see how it turns out for you.

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We know. Everyday we fear for another school shooting from that ever growing unstable demographic.

PanzerAggie06 said:

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MaroonStain said:

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PanzerAggie06 said:

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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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PanzerAggie06 said:

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Awesome.

Stay hyper-focused on the trans issues. That's the winning plan moving forward. Did wonders for the GOP Tuesday night.

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Fair enough on your point about the hyper-focus, but do you at least agree that it's ridiculous we've gotten to a point where people like this are winning elections?

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Quite ridiculous. However, for the GOP to be so broken and misaligned that people like this are elected in the first place is just as damning.

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Yep. Closed borders and defending the country turned people to vote for mentally ill trollops.

FFS...get your head out of the sand...

Want to blame something? Blame universal suffrage

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Child.

The GOP got straight punked because of Trump fatigue, tariffs, affordability, gas prices, and a "war". Yet the Repubs ran commercial after commercial about trans issues. Clueless.

And what's sadder? The GOP was already winning the trans issues. Hell, even in Colorado two state wide propositions limiting so called "trans rights" passed. However, the GOP completely misread the current environment and went all in on an issue it was winning but was not the primary focus in the election. Hell, numerous polls showed the trans issue didn't make the average voters top 5 concerns.

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And dems voted in droves to mandate the mental illness long before the flyer was published.

Ag87H2O said:

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What a time to be alive. This country sure isn't what it used to be.

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It's only a country by definition..Elvis has left the building

Don't play games.

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What a time to be alive!
Must give Dems full credit. They have successfully kept women out of the workplace by dressing up men as women and had them take up the place a woman might have taken.

Just look at these beauties.

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For us old computer illiterates ........how do you open this up?

Billys Cesspool Enjoyer said:

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The amount of time that gets spent on this topic is approaching fetishization levels.

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Talk to James Talarico and a ton of other lib politicians who make it a focus. Wouldn't be a conversation at all if yall weren't always pushing it and obsessing over it. It truly is an indicator that someone is genuinely crazy...that is why we are troubled by lunatics like Talarico and democrat SCOTUS justices who have to pretend not to have the slightest clue what a woman is so as not to upset tens of millions of liberal adults. There is no way she was not just pretending so as not to offend you and your homies, you may not know what a woman is, but she secretly does.

PanzerAggie06 said:

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MaroonStain said:

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PanzerAggie06 said:

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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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PanzerAggie06 said:

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Awesome.

Stay hyper-focused on the trans issues. That's the winning plan moving forward. Did wonders for the GOP Tuesday night.

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Fair enough on your point about the hyper-focus, but do you at least agree that it's ridiculous we've gotten to a point where people like this are winning elections?

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Quite ridiculous. However, for the GOP to be so broken and misaligned that people like this are elected in the first place is just as damning.

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Yep. Closed borders and defending the country turned people to vote for mentally ill trollops.

FFS...get your head out of the sand...

Want to blame something? Blame universal suffrage

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Child.

The GOP got straight punked because of Trump fatigue, tariffs, affordability, gas prices, and a "war". Yet the Repubs ran commercial after commercial about trans issues. Clueless.

And what's sadder? The GOP was already winning the trans issues. Hell, even in Colorado two state wide propositions limiting so called "trans rights" passed. However, the GOP completely misread the current environment and went all in on an issue it was winning but was not the primary focus in the election. Hell, numerous polls showed the trans issue didn't make the average voters top 5 concerns.

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You know why? Because the only other material from Talarico is him just saying generically good wholesome and loving and tolerant stuff, by design. There was no other material outside of a sea of his anti-White, fervently pro-trans rhetoric, and biblical heresey to use against him. This stuff SHOULD be effective, but Americans are lost. Well the left and CM's are at least.

What would you have done differently, specifically with regards to Talarico?

But again, it's crazy to me that that type of stuff isn't an indicator of competence and sanity to anyone on the left or "concerned middle". No, they think we (normal family people who pay back breaking taxes and get almost nothing in return) are the crazy ones.

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infinity ag said:

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What a time to be alive!
Must give Dems full credit. They have successfully kept women out of the workplace by dressing up men as women and had them take up the place a woman might have taken.

Just look at these beauties.

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For us old computer illiterates ........how do you open this up?

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You don't want to open that up. IYKYK

PanzerAggie06 said:

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Awesome.

Stay hyper-focused on the trans issues. That's the winning plan moving forward. Did wonders for the GOP Tuesday night.

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I wouldn't be so cocky over the Dems winning in a cycle they were supposed to win.

Just because someone points one thing out doesn't mean it's the whole focus.

If the Dems sole focus is punishing Trump, they won't be in power for long either.

Gigem314 said:

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PanzerAggie06 said:

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Awesome.

Stay hyper-focused on the trans issues. That's the winning plan moving forward. Did wonders for the GOP Tuesday night.

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I wouldn't be so cocky over the Dems winning in a cycle they were supposed to win.

Just because someone points one thing out doesn't mean it's the whole focus.

If the Dems sole focus is punishing Trump, they won't be in power for long either.

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It's not that they won for some of us, it's the nature of so many of the freaks they just elected. They seriously just elected a bunch of hate filled radicals at all levels. Buckle up...esp if they ever have all branches of govt.

American Hardwood said:

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Don't play games.

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Oh, so to question the effectiveness of focusing on the trans issue as opposed to more pressing concerns is to be liberal/Democrat?

Aren't you a special little guy.

PanzerAggie06 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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PanzerAggie06 said:

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Awesome.

Stay hyper-focused on the trans issues. That's the winning plan moving forward. Did wonders for the GOP Tuesday night.

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I don't want to win if I have to support mental illness.

Lott didn't win. He ultimately ran for his life.

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Well, if your goal is not to win, then congratulations, you definitely exceeded your expectations Tuesday night. You mastered not winning. Well done.

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I want to win. I just refuse to embrace degeneracy or Marxism to do it. HTH.

There are these things called beliefs, values and principles. Look into it. The fact that you would do anything to win is telling.

Coming to a state legislature women's restroom near you.

Logos Stick said:

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PanzerAggie06 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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PanzerAggie06 said:

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Awesome.

Stay hyper-focused on the trans issues. That's the winning plan moving forward. Did wonders for the GOP Tuesday night.

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I don't want to win if I have to support mental illness.

Lott didn't win. He ultimately ran for his life.

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Well, if your goal is not to win, then congratulations, you definitely exceeded your expectations Tuesday night. You mastered not winning. Well done.

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I want to win. I just refuse to embrace degeneracy or Marxism to do it. HTH.

There are these things called beliefs, values and principles. Look into it. The fact that you would do anything to win is telling.

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Calm down St. Logos Stick the Righteous and Pure.

Where the **** did I say you should support trans lunacy? And yes, it's lunacy. However, not making it the primary or secondary issue in a campaign which clearly was about other issues is not "supporting" trans issues. It's called reading the room.

PanzerAggie06 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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PanzerAggie06 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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PanzerAggie06 said:

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Awesome.

Stay hyper-focused on the trans issues. That's the winning plan moving forward. Did wonders for the GOP Tuesday night.

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I don't want to win if I have to support mental illness.

Lott didn't win. He ultimately ran for his life.

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Well, if your goal is not to win, then congratulations, you definitely exceeded your expectations Tuesday night. You mastered not winning. Well done.

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I want to win. I just refuse to embrace degeneracy or Marxism to do it. HTH.

There are these things called beliefs, values and principles. Look into it. The fact that you would do anything to win is telling.

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Calm down St. Logos Stick the Righteous and Pure.

Where the **** did I say you should support trans lunacy? And yes, it's lunacy. However, not making it the primary or secondary issue in a campaign which clearly was about other issues is not "supporting" trans issues. It's called reading the room.

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What other material do we have against Talarico that would actually resonate with potential "swing" voters? All we have is his over the top obsession with trans stuff, his anti-white sentiment, and his weird "God loves abortions" position.

Then he pivoted from that and started just only saying generic "warm and fuzzy" things.

They also used his anti-meant and anti-O&G positions. No one cares aside from normal sane people who would never vote for him to begin with.

Teslag said:

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Ag87H2O said:

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What a time to be alive. This country sure isn't what it used to be.

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Yep, in the 80's/90's they'd have been delt with appropriately

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So would this generation.

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PanzerAggie06 said:

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Awesome.

Stay hyper-focused on the trans issues. That's the winning plan moving forward. Did wonders for the GOP Tuesday night.

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Yeah, completely ignore all of the socialists, muslims and mentally ill fake men who just got elected and will undoubtably wage all out war against people like us with normal ideals and values and families.

On one hand you weirdos always accuse us of making it up..."it's not happening mannnn you;re crazy!"....then a bunch of mentally ill (according to DSM-5) cross dressing freaks who truly think they are women get elected nationwide. Then the narrative is "who cares?!" Don't be a bigot!"

We're done even entertaining your ridiculous and pathetic attempts to gaslight us into thinking WE are the crazy ones.

Yall are freaks. A complete and utter carney show. Almost makes me root for the muslims, if they would only target yall.

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All of that can be true, but I say this as somebody who voted straight R the last umpteen elections. We had several candidates that made all of that the center point of their campaign advertising here in Texas instead of talking about what we would do about issues a large number of voters cared about a lot more. And they lost in Texas by double digits. The electorate doesn't care broadly about this issue. Sure, if you are in power and want to take a shot at putting a halt to some of it, knock yourself out. But it is very clear after Tuesday that the pathway to getting back in power doesn't include making anti-trans positions the center pillar of your campaign platform. Just like the left figured out that prioritizing gun control was not a winning issue for them in red states and deemphasized it in their messaging, the right needs to learn that the trans issue, while appealing to their base, isn't winning them elections right now and shouldn't be the top of the flagpole issue.

All the dudes in the OP are:

1. Dudes
2. Not women.
3. XYs pretending to be XXs, while demanding you validate their pretend session.
4. Dudes.
5. Men.
6. Not women.
7. Not sane.
8. Mentally ill.
9. Totally gross.
10. Not women.

That about covers it.

PanzerAggie06 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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PanzerAggie06 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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PanzerAggie06 said:

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Awesome.

Stay hyper-focused on the trans issues. That's the winning plan moving forward. Did wonders for the GOP Tuesday night.

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I don't want to win if I have to support mental illness.

Lott didn't win. He ultimately ran for his life.

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Well, if your goal is not to win, then congratulations, you definitely exceeded your expectations Tuesday night. You mastered not winning. Well done.

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I want to win. I just refuse to embrace degeneracy or Marxism to do it. HTH.

There are these things called beliefs, values and principles. Look into it. The fact that you would do anything to win is telling.

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Calm down St. Logos Stick the Righteous and Pure.

Where the **** did I say you should support trans lunacy? And yes, it's lunacy. However, not making it the primary or secondary issue in a campaign which clearly was about other issues is not "supporting" trans issues. It's called reading the room.

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The economy was faaaaar worse off in 2022 and we didn't have a RED title wave. Rs eked out a win in the House and Dems kept the Senate. 2024 was not a RED title wave either; we barely maintained control of the House! We also didn't have state officials in blue states being completely replaced by red candidates!

This was a title wave of unprecedented proportion that is not explained by the Rs focusing on trans issues.

The fact is, demographics have changed to the point of reaching a critical mass. Its been happening for a very long time and the expected effect is now permanently here. Anchor babies, unfettered illegal immigration, open borders, H1Bs, etc... has flipped the nation!

Logos Stick said:

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PanzerAggie06 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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PanzerAggie06 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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PanzerAggie06 said:

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Awesome.

Stay hyper-focused on the trans issues. That's the winning plan moving forward. Did wonders for the GOP Tuesday night.

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I don't want to win if I have to support mental illness.

Lott didn't win. He ultimately ran for his life.

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Well, if your goal is not to win, then congratulations, you definitely exceeded your expectations Tuesday night. You mastered not winning. Well done.

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I want to win. I just refuse to embrace degeneracy or Marxism to do it. HTH.

There are these things called beliefs, values and principles. Look into it. The fact that you would do anything to win is telling.

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Calm down St. Logos Stick the Righteous and Pure.

Where the **** did I say you should support trans lunacy? And yes, it's lunacy. However, not making it the primary or secondary issue in a campaign which clearly was about other issues is not "supporting" trans issues. It's called reading the room.

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The economy was faaaaar worse off in 2022 and we didn't have a RED title wave. Rs eked out a win in the House and Dems kept the Senate. 2024 was not a RED title wave either; we barely maintained control of the House! We also didn't have state officials in blue states being completely replaced by red candidates!

This was a title wave of unprecedented proportion that is not explained by the Rs focusing on trans issues.

The fact is, demographics have changed to the point of reaching a critical mass. It's been happening for a very long time and the expected effect is now permanently here. Anchor babies, unfettered illegal immigration, open borders, H1Bs, etc... has flipped the nation!

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No one, let alone myself, is claiming the trans issue is the sole reason the GOP got man handled Tuesday. However, the infatuation with the issue during the campaign and the clearly ongoing focus on it here on F16 is indicative of not being in touch with voters. They were clearly much more focused on other topics. And changes in demographics do not come close to explaining the massacre we saw in Texas… a state that saw Trump win a mere two years ago by two million plus votes.

PanzerAggie06 said:

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American Hardwood said:

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Don't play games.

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Oh, so to question the effectiveness of focusing on the trans issue as opposed to more pressing concerns is to be liberal/Democrat?

Aren't you a special little guy.

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Why didn't you just frame your criticism of the GOP with some personal disclosure so the thread could understand your perspective instead of getting cute with a partisan version of "Guess who I am?".

American Hardwood said:

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PanzerAggie06 said:

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American Hardwood said:

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Don't play games.

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Oh, so to question the effectiveness of focusing on the trans issue as opposed to more pressing concerns is to be liberal/Democrat?

Aren't you a special little guy.

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Why didn't you just frame your criticism of the GOP with some personal disclosure so the thread could understand your perspective instead of getting cute with a partisan version of "Guess who I am?".

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What difference would that make? Take the criticism at face value and don't worry about whether the deliverer of such criticism has the correct credentials.

PanzerAggie06 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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PanzerAggie06 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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PanzerAggie06 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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PanzerAggie06 said:

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Awesome.

Stay hyper-focused on the trans issues. That's the winning plan moving forward. Did wonders for the GOP Tuesday night.

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I don't want to win if I have to support mental illness.

Lott didn't win. He ultimately ran for his life.

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Well, if your goal is not to win, then congratulations, you definitely exceeded your expectations Tuesday night. You mastered not winning. Well done.

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I want to win. I just refuse to embrace degeneracy or Marxism to do it. HTH.

There are these things called beliefs, values and principles. Look into it. The fact that you would do anything to win is telling.

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Calm down St. Logos Stick the Righteous and Pure.

Where the **** did I say you should support trans lunacy? And yes, it's lunacy. However, not making it the primary or secondary issue in a campaign which clearly was about other issues is not "supporting" trans issues. It's called reading the room.

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The economy was faaaaar worse off in 2022 and we didn't have a RED title wave. Rs eked out a win in the House and Dems kept the Senate. 2024 was not a RED title wave either; we barely maintained control of the House! We also didn't have state officials in blue states being completely replaced by red candidates!

This was a title wave of unprecedented proportion that is not explained by the Rs focusing on trans issues.

The fact is, demographics have changed to the point of reaching a critical mass. It's been happening for a very long time and the expected effect is now permanently here. Anchor babies, unfettered illegal immigration, open borders, H1Bs, etc... has flipped the nation!

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No one, let alone myself, is claiming the trans issue is the sole reason the GOP got man handled Tuesday. However, the infatuation with the issue during the campaign and the clearly ongoing focus on it here on F16 is indicative of not being in touch with voters. They were clearly much more focused on other topics. And changes in demographics do not come close to explaining the massacre we saw in Texas… a state that saw Trump win a mere two years ago by two million plus votes.

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If the voters were upset with the economy, how does focusing on that help at that point?! You focus on the negatives of your opponent at that point.

The Hispanics were upset about open borders in 2024. They drove the Trump victory. Trump solved that and they flipped back to their normal pattern this election, which is about 66% Dem.

PanzerAggie is correct to a point (if I understand it correctly).

Keeping trans out of women''s sports and locker rooms is a winning issue because it is strictly a practical, real thing.

Hounding them strictly for being trans is a cultural issue and becomes at least a no gainer and maybe even a loser, politically.

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PanzerAggie is correct to a point (if I understand it correctly).

Keeping trans out of women''s sports and locker rooms is a winning issue because it is strictly a practical, real thing.

Hounding them strictly for being trans is a cultural issue and becomes at least a no gainer and maybe even a loser, politically.

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It is a winning issue in the abstract do you support #1 or #2 kind of way. But when you run 1 candidate who is talking about his plan to make things more affordable, lying about his commitment to O&G in Texas and opposing gun control, etc.; while candidate #2's ads are about nothing but the trans issues and he does nothing to even attempt to answer candidate #1's accusations he is soft on pedophiles and gives no discussion about how he will address affordability; the trans issue isn't meaningful enough to most voters to overcome all the other issues they find to be more important.

Elections are almost always about the economy and who voters perceive as likely to make their lives better. The R focus on social issues instead has not led to success in situations like 2022 that were otherwise setup well for them to gain a lot of seats. If the left can do things like put an abortion or pot legalization referendum on the ballot and goad the Rs into spending their whole campaign talking about the social issues, the Ds have won more than half the battle and can talk about the economy virtually unopposed.

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I know this: We can worry about the trans or the Muslims. But we need not worry about both.

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his.

Even scarier - Trans Muslims.

GOP loses the culture war 9/10. It is what it is. That includes transgender, homosexual, weed, anything not WASP, etc.

Yes, the R's need to pivot away from the non practical and on winning issues revolving these. Which is most of them. Also, fear tactics work less and less these days I am fairly certain. There is too much information and the populace is too educated and contrarian.

The GOP campaign this year frankly was the worst possible run attempt in a long time and it was over stupid **** like the OP. The gen pop doesn't GAF about this when bills are racking up with no end in sight.