Brazil election today

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Unfortunately appears Lula is going to win. He only had a 20 percent chance up until today on Kalshi. Dude is a total corrupt POS. Not good for that country or the world. But shows how betting markets cannot be fully relied on for elections. Though somehow they only seem to flip in advantage of socialists and communists like Lula.
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That really sucks if true. Would be the only win by a leftist down there recently but in the largest, most influential country.

I'm going to guess massive cheating happened as well.
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YouBet said:

That really sucks if true. Would be the only win by a leftist down there recently but in the largest, most influential country.

I'm going to guess massive cheating happened as well.


Hard to know if cheating happened, as it is essentially a 3rd world country now, but they have pretty strict voter id laws and oversight on their voting machines.

Sadly I think the country has just become so poor that all the poor people vote for the candidate they think is going to give them the most freebies.


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It's two terrible candidates and most Brazilians hate it
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Brazil is a third world country. So was the rest of South America minus French Guiana
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Rare good day for democracy. Left wing extremism defeated in Serbia, right wing extremism defeated in Brazil.
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You known Lula is a corrupt left wing extremist right?
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A stolen election by the communist, but no surprise.

And no surprise who supports it.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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By and large though, since USAID money disappeared, elections have been swinging Right in Latin and south America
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Welp, they stole another one.
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FlyRod said:

Rare good day for democracy. Left wing extremism defeated in Serbia, right wing extremism defeated in Brazil.

You're in good company.

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Who?mikejones! said:

You known Lula is a corrupt left wing extremist right?


Curious about his thought process on this one.
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Brazil again chose crime and crushing debt
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YouBet said:

Who?mikejones! said:

You known Lula is a corrupt left wing extremist right?


Curious about his thought process on this one.

Bolsonaro is backed by Trump, so automatically bad.

Lula opposes Trump, so automatically good.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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FlyRod said:

Rare good day for democracy. Left wing extremism defeated in Serbia, right wing extremism defeated in Brazil.

So "democracy" is when you are losing you have your former personal lawyer who you appointed to the Supreme Court issue a voting extension 3 minutes prior to the polls closing because you simply requested it. Of course you also made sure that the districts that favored you were aware and the ones who didn't already had closed and were unable to re-open.
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aggie93 said:

FlyRod said:

Rare good day for democracy. Left wing extremism defeated in Serbia, right wing extremism defeated in Brazil.

So "democracy" is when you are losing you have your former personal lawyer who you appointed to the Supreme Court issue a voting extension 3 minutes prior to the polls closing because you simply requested it. Of course you also made sure that the districts that favored you were aware and the ones who didn't already had closed and were unable to re-open.

Exactly this.
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Leftists seem to always cheat. Sounds fishy.

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Incumbent leftist President Luiz Incio Lula da Silva narrowly defeated conservative Sen. Flavio Bolsonaro in Sunday's presidential runoff, according to The Associated Press. The deeply polarized nation returned to the polls for a second round runoff on Sunday.

Lula's victory followed chaos at polling places after a Supreme Court justice ordered a last-minute, two-hour voting extension, a move that could face a legal challenge from Bolsonaro.
While the Flavio Bolsonaro campaign had also requested an extension in certain areas impacted by heavy rains, the unusual decision by the court to extend voting hours nationwide by two hours will certainly draw scrutiny

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Lula petitioned for the extension, claiming that buses were not circulating to take voters to the polls as expected.
"I've never complained about anything in any election before. Whether I won or lost, I'd just accept it and get ready for the next one. But this time, something abominable is happening," Lula argued.
The Bolsonaro camp is likely to claim that the extension favored Lula.
Bolsonaro narrowly won the first round on Oct. 4, with 47% of the vote, to Lula's 45%, but fell short of the 50% majority required to win the election outright.
The victory marks an unprecedented fourth presidential term for Lula, and a remarkable comeback victory. The result is even more surprising given that Bolsonaro had led, albeit by tight margins, in recent polling, and Brazil had recently elected a conservative congress aligned with the Bolsonaro agenda.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/conservative-wave-hits-roadblock-brazil-lula-holds-off-bolsonaro-challenge
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aggie93 said:

issue a voting extension 3 minutes prior to after the polls closing
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amercer
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Both candidates requested that the polls stay open late. Now the one who lost is crying about it
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Red Fishing Ag93
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First order of business...

Censorship.

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But I was told in this thread that the authoritarian lost??

I'm confused.
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amercer said:

Both candidates requested that the polls stay open late. Now the one who lost is crying about it

You missed the part about how the Bolsanaro districts were closed but the Lula districts stayed open because they knew it was coming. Also Lula was losing.
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Absolutely reeks of corruption/fraud/communism. I know the US Military had a rush program training folks in Portuguese over the past 90 days. If their judiciary does in fact install lula as dictator again I wonder if we do wind up going in and arresting him.

Mark Carney and Alex Soros have enthusiastically congratulated the commie clown:
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IDaggie06 said:

Unfortunately appears Lula is going to win. He only had a 20 percent chance up until today on Kalshi. Dude is a total corrupt POS. Not good for that country or the world. But shows how betting markets cannot be fully relied on for elections. Though somehow they only seem to flip in advantage of socialists and communists like Lula.

Brazil is lost. The corruption is so deep there's no escape now.
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They could try but I have no doubt their supreme court would disallow it
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Who?mikejones! said:

They could try but I have no doubt their supreme court would disallow it

Brazilian markets are tanking. Headed to circuit breakers.
nortex97
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Who?mikejones! said:

They could try but I have no doubt their supreme court would disallow it

It's confusing to me. They have a TSE (supreme court) and a superior election court (SEC), the latter is supposed to oversee election decisions, and a lower TSE judge stepped in and did the 2 hour order after Bolsonaro voting locations basically were closed.

I think an 'annulment' is not out of the question, but I don't know their process at all.

The conservatives also won a functional super majority in both chambers of their legislature already.
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In the first round, the opposition and center-right achieved a crushing victory, snatching control of both chambers from the left.

Here's how the new legislative power map looks:

SENATE (81 seats | Majority: 41)
Right: 48 seats (59.3%)

Absolute majority consolidated!

Others: 33 seats (40.7%)

CHAMBER OF DEPUTIES (513 seats | Majority: 257)

Right: 303 seats (59.1%)

Center: 86 seats (16.8%)

Left: Only 124 seats (24.2%)

What does this mean? That any reform, budget, or law will have to pass through a gigantic wall of opposition containment.

The new government faces a historic Congress that won't give it any truce.

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Betting markets have never been reliable on who can win. It's not a measure of likeliness to win it's a measure of who people will bet on who will win. Not the same thing.
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Narco commies rejoice, for the time being.
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This is clearly fraud. The authoritarians (the left) strike again.
nortex97
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South Africa's Rhamposa, Von Der Leyen in Europe, Mark Carney, and of course Zelensky have sent congratulations. No doubt many other despots I haven't noticed.

'Rule of law' and all that stuff courtesy of USAID/Nuland 'nation building' in full force still in Brazil.

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