PCC_80 said:

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What bothers me is that the Dems/Libs for some reason want a State Income Tax when Texas apparently has a balanced budget, is actually trying to cut Property Taxes and has a full rainy day fund. We seem to have enough money to meet our needs plus a reserve.

I seriously doubt that Dems/Libs would be inclined to lower Property Taxes or Sales Taxes if they got a State Income Tax. So why do they think we need an income tax ? ?

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These are not intelligent people. They want you raise taxes because their groupthink says higher taxes = more fairness. It really isn't deeper than that. They don't ask themselves why, who should pay, or what the money will be used for. They also just want to oppose conservatives.

aggieforester05 said:

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PCC_80 said:

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What bothers me is that the Dems/Libs for some reason want a State Income Tax when Texas apparently has a balanced budget, is actually trying to cut Property Taxes and has a full rainy day fund. We seem to have enough money to meet our needs plus a reserve.

I seriously doubt that Dems/Libs would be inclined to lower Property Taxes or Sales Taxes if they got a State Income Tax. So why do they think we need an income tax ? ?

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These are not intelligent people. They want you raise taxes because their groupthink says higher taxes = more fairness. It really isn't deeper than that. They don't ask themselves why, who should pay, or what the money will be used for. They also just want to oppose conservatives.

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To highlight your point here is how they think about this....from the UK right now.

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A debate about welfare is raging in the party captured by Pat McFadden, one of Starmer and Burnham's top aides. In a leaked WhatsApp message last year, McFadden complained that every meeting he had with Labour lawmakers was about "Who can we tax in order to pay benefits to others?"

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Kenneth_2003 said:

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Im Gipper said:

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Who is Gina Hidalgo?


The thread title tells you all you need to know about this "race"

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You're on a POLITICS board and your flex, along with almost a dozen stars is that you admit to not knowing who the Democrat candidate for governor is?

I fully think she'll be blown away, but I won't brag about ballot ignorance

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There is no Gina Hidalgo on the ballot for governor.

Pretty sure the last (and only) political ad I've seen in years where the individual promoted themselves instead of flung bull**** low IQ lies about their competition was the Trump campaign ad we, the tax payers, just paid for. And he's not even running for anything.

All political ads are the same these days. Rarely does any of them actually say WHAT they are going to do. They are just attacks on the other party, responses saying the other party is lying, or some broad statement like "I'm going to make healthcare more affordable" with no actual substance.

They are all a waste of time.

BuddysBud said:

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Tex100 said:

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Im Gipper said:

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Who is Gina Hidalgo?


The thread title tells you all you need to know about this "race"

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You are correct. Until two weeks ago, I didn't know who the Democrat candidate what.

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The first time I knew who the democrat candidate's name was from an ad for Abbott.

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Which is a mistake on his part. No one knew who Ted Cruz was until David Dewhurst mentioned Ted in an ad. And the rest is history.

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The first time I knew who the democrat candidate's name was from an ad for Abbott.

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The hardcore Democrats in my neighborhood that always have a yard sign for something out front have had sings up for months that just said "Gina for Texas" with Gina in big script letters, which was all I saw at first.

It was a long time before I who or what the signs were for.

what's a guy gotta do to get a rule #1 around here...?

Kenneth_2003 said:

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Im Gipper said:

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Who is Gina Hidalgo?


The thread title tells you all you need to know about this "race"

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You're on a POLITICS board and your flex, along with almost a dozen stars is that you admit to not knowing who the Democrat candidate for governor is?

I fully think she'll be blown away, but I won't brag about ballot ignorance

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I will place this post in the huge OOOPS category.

doubledog said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Im Gipper said:

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Who is Gina Hidalgo?


The thread title tells you all you need to know about this "race"

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Same. She's got about as much of a chance of winning as we do with Reed at QB.

Too soon?

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That depends on what high school team the ags play next week.

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With any luck, we'll get Grandfalls-Royalty and Loop on our schedule.

I mean, it would be nice to have a shot at winning.

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All political ads are the same these days. Rarely does any of them actually say WHAT they are going to do. They are just attacks on the other party, responses saying the other party is lying, or some broad statement like "I'm going to make healthcare more affordable" with no actual substance.

They are all a waste of time.

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Truer words were never spoken.

LINA Hidalgo



Gina Hinajosa




hth

Rough Monday for Kenneth!

Kenneth_2003 said:

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Im Gipper said:

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Who is Gina Hidalgo?


The thread title tells you all you need to know about this "race"

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You're on a POLITICS board and your flex, along with almost a dozen stars is that you admit to not knowing who the Democrat candidate for governor is?

I fully think she'll be blown away, but I won't brag about ballot ignorance

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Gina Hinojosa is the D candidate for gov

Lina Hidalgo is some chick in The Tine.

Gina Hidalgo....no idea.



Speaking of "ignorance".

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Where she says Abbot's ads about what she says are lies. Is his ad where she says they are missing the third leg of the stool - state income tax- taking what she said out if context?

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What Talarico is saying are lies too.

He's denying he said things and that it's only AI saying he did and several others.

I doubt that

Illegals already get way too much in welfare. The welfare networks in place in blue states are criminal. They should get ZERO. Americans should be taken care of first.

Average Joe said:

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All political ads are the same these days. Rarely does any of them actually say WHAT they are going to do. They are just attacks on the other party, responses saying the other party is lying, or some broad statement like "I'm going to make healthcare more affordable" with no actual substance.

They are all a waste of time.

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I've been struck by how similar all the ads look this cycle, regardless of which candidate, party, or 3rd party entity is paying for them. Have to turn the volume up and pay attention to see who they're for or against.

I mean, they all look the same. #amiright

PCC_80 said:

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What bothers me is that the Dems/Libs for some reason want a State Income Tax when Texas apparently has a balanced budget, is actually trying to cut Property Taxes and has a full rainy day fund. We seem to have enough money to meet our needs plus a reserve.

I seriously doubt that Dems/Libs would be inclined to lower Property Taxes or Sales Taxes if they got a State Income Tax. So why do they think we need an income tax ? ?

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I think libs would love to drastically cut property taxes in exchange for an income tax. Between a consumption tax, an income tax and a property tax, the property tax seems like the absolute worst, inherently unfair tax scheme we can contrive. I'm surprised it's survived this long in a state with so many fiscal conservatives.

She is an effing give me cart. Of-course she supports an income tax. They all do!

There's no question here

Gina is a Dem

Texas Dems want increased property taxes AND an income tax. No Dem is against more crushing taxes

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PCC_80 said:

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What bothers me is that the Dems/Libs for some reason want a State Income Tax when Texas apparently has a balanced budget, is actually trying to cut Property Taxes and has a full rainy day fund. We seem to have enough money to meet our needs plus a reserve.

I seriously doubt that Dems/Libs would be inclined to lower Property Taxes or Sales Taxes if they got a State Income Tax. So why do they think we need an income tax ? ?

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I think libs would love to drastically cut property taxes in exchange for an income tax. Between a consumption tax, an income tax and a property tax, the property tax seems like the absolute worst, inherently unfair tax scheme we can contrive. I'm surprised it's survived this long in a state with so many fiscal conservatives.

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LOL at thinking any Democrat would cut taxes. They'll lie about it to get in, then add an income tax to the already egregious property taxes. Then slowly raise both of them so they can launder more and more money through their malfeasant NGOs.

VaterAg said:

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PCC_80 said:

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What bothers me is that the Dems/Libs for some reason want a State Income Tax when Texas apparently has a balanced budget, is actually trying to cut Property Taxes and has a full rainy day fund. We seem to have enough money to meet our needs plus a reserve.

I seriously doubt that Dems/Libs would be inclined to lower Property Taxes or Sales Taxes if they got a State Income Tax. So why do they think we need an income tax ? ?

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I think libs would love to drastically cut property taxes in exchange for an income tax. Between a consumption tax, an income tax and a property tax, the property tax seems like the absolute worst, inherently unfair tax scheme we can contrive. I'm surprised it's survived this long in a state with so many fiscal conservatives.

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Just for fun, I ran my income on a California income tax return and calculated property taxes based on my last HCAD appraisal using property tax rates in Los Angeles County. Turns out my overall tax burden would be LOWER under that model than it would be under the current property tax model in Texas (or at least it was at the beginning of this year).

I'm not saying Texas needs an income tax, but if you're a property owner, the Texas model is certainly not the best model out there.

Ryan the Temp said:

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VaterAg said:

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PCC_80 said:

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What bothers me is that the Dems/Libs for some reason want a State Income Tax when Texas apparently has a balanced budget, is actually trying to cut Property Taxes and has a full rainy day fund. We seem to have enough money to meet our needs plus a reserve.

I seriously doubt that Dems/Libs would be inclined to lower Property Taxes or Sales Taxes if they got a State Income Tax. So why do they think we need an income tax ? ?

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I think libs would love to drastically cut property taxes in exchange for an income tax. Between a consumption tax, an income tax and a property tax, the property tax seems like the absolute worst, inherently unfair tax scheme we can contrive. I'm surprised it's survived this long in a state with so many fiscal conservatives.

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Just for fun, I ran my income on a California income tax return and calculated property taxes based on my last HCAD appraisal using property tax rates in Los Angeles County. Turns out my overall tax burden would be LOWER under that model than it would be under the current property tax model in Texas (or at least it was at the beginning of this year).

I'm not saying Texas needs an income tax, but if you're a property owner, the Texas model is certainly not the best model out there.

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This is why I said earlier a more balanced tax strategy can actually work better. The danger is that once you add a new tax vehicle for the government, the Democrats especially, will just use it to spend more on welfare and stupid ***** So, the very real danger is that your overall tax burden will just increase rather than getting a rebalancing especially in a more populous, diverse state like Texas.

I've shared this before, but our overall tax burden in New Mexico is way lower than Texas at least for us as retired / sole proprietor couple even after adding in the state income tax we have here. Our property taxes here are 50% of what they were in Texas for a house that is valued $300k more than in Texas. Our property insurance is 1/3 of what it was in Texas. We are saving many thousands per year by simply moving one state over even after applying New Mexico's state income tax which Texas does not have.

To be fair, comparing New Mexico to Texas is apples and oranges. If were both still working corporate, we would still be in Texas and that cash flow was such that I really didn't care at the time how much we were paying in Texas. But once that cash flow ends it becomes and unsustainable expense over time to live there because state funding is funneled through property taxes and you don't get the benefit of any offset from state income tax.

aggieforester05 said:

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VaterAg said:

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PCC_80 said:

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What bothers me is that the Dems/Libs for some reason want a State Income Tax when Texas apparently has a balanced budget, is actually trying to cut Property Taxes and has a full rainy day fund. We seem to have enough money to meet our needs plus a reserve.

I seriously doubt that Dems/Libs would be inclined to lower Property Taxes or Sales Taxes if they got a State Income Tax. So why do they think we need an income tax ? ?

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I think libs would love to drastically cut property taxes in exchange for an income tax. Between a consumption tax, an income tax and a property tax, the property tax seems like the absolute worst, inherently unfair tax scheme we can contrive. I'm surprised it's survived this long in a state with so many fiscal conservatives.

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LOL at thinking any Democrat would cut taxes. They'll lie about it to get in, then add an income tax to the already egregious property taxes. Then slowly raise both of them so they can launder more and more money through their malfeasant NGOs.

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So make it contingent then. Income Tax only passes with a % cut in property taxes. Codify it. We should be able to solve the huge mess that is property taxes. Heck, put it in the hands of Republicans to make sure it gets done.

I would vote for GH if she flashed her boobs and ran with …vote for these to be in office.