Where she says Abbot's ads about what she says are lies. Is his ad where she says they are missing the third leg of the stool - state income tax- taking what she said out if context?

Who cares about some stupid ad, this needs a thread? Low T and his associates lie about everything

In short, is Abbot's ad claiming she advocates a state income tax a misrepresentation or is Gina the liar?

No Spin Ag said:

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Im Gipper said:

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Who is Gina Hidalgo?


The thread title tells you all you need to know about this "race"

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Same. She's got about as much of a chance of winning as we do with Reed at QB.

Too soon?

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Im Gipper said:

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Who is Gina Hidalgo?


The thread title tells you all you need to know about this "race"

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You are correct. Until two weeks ago, I didn't know who the Democrat candidate what.

But my question remains. Is she lying when she says Abbot is lying.

Captn_Ag05 said:

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It's a political ad, so just assume it's a lie. By both parties and all candidates.

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I mean, you're not wrong.

Tex100 said:

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But my question remains. Is she lying when she says Abbot is lying.

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She's lying.

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Hinojosa gave an interview to KXAN-TV in February 2016, when she was a candidate for the legislative seat.

Hinojosa discussed a state income tax, "We rely so heavily in this state on property taxes, too heavily in my opinion, because we don't have the third leg of that stool that's required to have a robust and strong and resilient economy, which would include income taxes. We don't have that in the state of Texas, so we rely so heavily on property taxes and sales tax because we're missing that third leg of that stool."

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She has not outright supported an income tax that I can find in terms of actually pushing for one to be passed.

She has however previously stated that school funding is missing the "third leg" of an income tax and voted against the Constitutional amendment to outlaw income taxes.
https://journals.senate.texas.gov/sjrnl/86r/pdf/86RSJ05-20-F.PDF#page=3&seqNum=233

YouBet said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Im Gipper said:

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Who is Gina Hidalgo?


The thread title tells you all you need to know about this "race"

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Same. She's got about as much of a chance of winning as we do with Reed at QB.

Too soon?

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But I got a text this morning that she took the lead in the polls and needs me to chip in $1 to help.

I think that's obvious. It's just that they are both mostly telling the truth. She has not outright supported an income tax thus far but it doesn't take a massive leap to understand she supports the concept of one. She is largely going to deny supporting one because it would be a massive negative for her in a statewide position in Texas.

If you could ensure that politicians wouldn't simply keep raising them, then you might be better off with a balanced system of state income, property, and sales tax. Property taxes are out of control in Texas because you have to almost solely depend on them for funding.

But, as soon as you introduce a state income tax then you are just going to pay more than you do now because there would be zero rebalancing effort done. And even if they thoughtfully implemented it (which would never happen) whatever setup was done wouldn't last and now you are stuck with 3 taxes and an overall net increase to pay.

I love how her (Gina Hinojosa) first and only commercial that I've seen starts out with

"By now you've heard the lies about me" or something.

Someone needed to tell her that we hadn't even heard of her before that.

Fenrir said:

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I think that's obvious. It's just that they are both mostly telling the truth. She has not outright supported an income tax thus far but it doesn't take a massive leap to understand she supports the concept of one. She is largely going to deny supporting one because it would be a massive negative for her in a statewide position in Texas.

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I don't play that nuanced game. It's about voting. How you vote is what you think and what you support. Nothing is holding her back from voting against her party. It is only an issue for her because she wants to run statewide and deceive voters, it's not one for me. It shows she can't think on her own or doesn't have a spine to vote against her party if she really thinks that way, but I don't believe that.

Jugstore Cowboy said:

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I love how her (Gina Hinojosa) first and only commercial that I've seen starts out with

"By now you've heard the lies about me" or something.

Someone needed to tell her that we hadn't even heard of her before that.

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No kidding - her and Talarico.

I mean I'm not asking you to believe her. I'm just responding to the OP's question that ignores the reality that both are largely telling the truth. She has not explicitly voted for an income tax as she says. You also need to be a fool to believe a person who voted against an income tax ban wouldn't support one as Abbott says.

Tex100 said:

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Im Gipper said:

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Who is Gina Hidalgo?


The thread title tells you all you need to know about this "race"

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You are correct. Until two weeks ago, I didn't know who the Democrat candidate what.

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The first time I knew who the democrat candidate's name was from an ad for Abbott.

YouBet said:

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Tex100 said:

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But my question remains. Is she lying when she says Abbot is lying.

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She's lying.

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Hinojosa gave an interview to KXAN-TV in February 2016, when she was a candidate for the legislative seat.

Hinojosa discussed a state income tax, "We rely so heavily in this state on property taxes, too heavily in my opinion, because we don't have the third leg of that stool that's required to have a robust and strong and resilient economy, which would include income taxes. We don't have that in the state of Texas, so we rely so heavily on property taxes and sales tax because we're missing that third leg of that stool."

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. Thank you

No Spin Ag said:

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Im Gipper said:

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Who is Gina Hidalgo?


The thread title tells you all you need to know about this "race"

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Same. She's got about as much of a chance of winning as we do with Reed at QB.

Too soon?

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That depends on what high school team the ags play next week.

Hidalgo and Talarico ought to hook up. They could have padded bedroom and share the same dope.

AozorAg said:

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Fenrir said:

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She has not outright supported an income tax that I can find in terms of actually pushing for one to be passed.

She has however previously stated that school funding is missing the "third leg" of an income tax and voted against the Constitutional amendment to outlaw income taxes.
https://journals.senate.texas.gov/sjrnl/86r/pdf/86RSJ05-20-F.PDF#page=3&seqNum=233

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So Abbott is telling the truth. She wants a state income tax.

And setting aside the Abbott ad, she's a ****ing democrat. Of course she wants a state income tax.

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Of course she does. She is playing wordsmith and technically I would argue is not lying because she is saying that she has not actively supported an income tax which is at this point in time not inaccurate. It helps to counter claims if you understand what they are saying instead of just reacting emotionally like a liberal. Just point out that she voted against the amendment outlawing an income tax.

We already have an income tax in Texas. It's called a franchise tax, but functions as an income tax with few allowable deductions.

How's that for context?

What bothers me is that the Dems/Libs for some reason want a State Income Tax when Texas apparently has a balanced budget, is actually trying to cut Property Taxes and has a full rainy day fund. We seem to have enough money to meet our needs plus a reserve.

I seriously doubt that Dems/Libs would be inclined to lower Property Taxes or Sales Taxes if they got a State Income Tax. So why do they think we need an income tax ? ?

PCC_80 said:

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What bothers me is that the Dems/Libs for some reason want a State Income Tax when Texas apparently has a balanced budget, is actually trying to cut Property Taxes and has a full rainy day fund. We seem to have enough money to meet our needs plus a reserve.

I seriously doubt that Dems/Libs would be inclined to lower Property Taxes or Sales Taxes if they got a State Income Tax. So why do they think we need an income tax ? ?

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For more welfare so they can further build out the Democrat leech class and get people dependent on government.

PCC_80 said:

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What bothers me is that the Dems/Libs for some reason want a State Income Tax when Texas apparently has a balanced budget, is actually trying to cut Property Taxes and has a full rainy day fund. We seem to have enough money to meet our needs plus a reserve.

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the government is going to need a lot more money to house, feed, and care for millions of migrants they invite to come over for free stuff and for the government to change the climate and to end fossil fuels.

oh no said:

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PCC_80 said:

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What bothers me is that the Dems/Libs for some reason want a State Income Tax when Texas apparently has a balanced budget, is actually trying to cut Property Taxes and has a full rainy day fund. We seem to have enough money to meet our needs plus a reserve.

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the government is going to need a lot more money to house, feed, and care for millions of migrants they invite to come over for free stuff and for the government to change the climate and to end fossil fuels.

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Western Europe is failing right now because of this, but Dems here want the same thing.

Im Gipper said:

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Who is Gina Hidalgo?


The thread title tells you all you need to know about this "race"

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You're on a POLITICS board and your flex, along with almost a dozen stars is that you admit to not knowing who the Democrat candidate for governor is?

I fully think she'll be blown away, but I won't brag about ballot ignorance

Kenneth_2003 said:

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Im Gipper said:

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Who is Gina Hidalgo?


The thread title tells you all you need to know about this "race"

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You're on a POLITICS board and your flex, along with almost a dozen stars is that you admit to not knowing who the Democrat candidate for governor is?

I fully think she'll be blown away, but I won't brag about ballot ignorance

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