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Serious questions:

1. Is it possible for the hopefully surviving wife to sue the judge?
2. Not that it would happen in filly but in a sane jurisdiction could a DA prosecute the judge?
3. Am I correct to assume the answers to 1 and 2 are based on local or state laws and not federal?

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Horrible event and guy needs to be behind bars for the rest of his life - probably psych ward.

Am I missing something though? Guy with no criminal history breaks into his ex-girlfriends apartment and steals two phones and laptop when she wasn't there. No bail while awaiting trail - which proably would take 6 months to a year to get there.

Are we saying the judge is responsible for not locking him up and throwing away the key for that burglary? Should he have spent that 6 months to a year in jail waiting for trial? If he had spent that time in jail, would he have gone nuts after that time and done something similar. If there had been a bail dollar figure - when he posted bail would this have stopped it? This guy had a psychotic episode - don't think he would have been a good boy just because there was a $10k bail riding on it.

I don't see anything in the story (or the linked story to his original arrest) that tells me this is a massive screw up to let him out. I'm sure he was a horrible person - chances are criminal for other things. But nothing that I see to get enraraged about him being out for two phones and a laptop.

My thoughts on bail - don't care how much money you have - if you are a dangerous criminal or a flight risk, you don't get out.

Yes. You are definitely missing something here. He was facing two felony charges. He should have been held in prison to answer to his crimes.

BadMoonRisin said:

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Yes. You are definitely missing something here.

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Ok - what is it? What would have been the correct thing to have happened.

dude95 said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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Yes. You are definitely missing something here.

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Ok - what is it? What would have been the correct thing to have happened.

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This Person of Diversity had a criminal past, so maybe -- I dont know, I'm just spitballing here -- keep him in jail for being a dirtbag criminal?

Here's what the news reported:

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Joseph said that Hemingway does not live in the Edgewood area and that he did not immediately have information about whether Hemingway had a criminal history. The investigation continues.

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I have information from the same report in the OP that he DID have a criminal history, from just 2 months ago. It's very clear. Why did he not disclose that?

Right. The investigation continues....

BadMoonRisin said:

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dude95 said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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Yes. You are definitely missing something here.

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Ok - what is it? What would have been the correct thing to have happened.

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This Person of Diversity had a criminal past, so maybe -- I dont know, I'm just spitballing here -- keep him in jail for being a dirtbag criminal?

Here's what the news reported:

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Joseph said that Hemingway does not live in the Edgewood area and that he did not immediately have information about whether Hemingway had a criminal history. The investigation continues.

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I have information from the same report in the OP that he DID have a criminal history, from just 2 months ago. It's very clear. Why did he not disclose that?

Right. The investigation continues....

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The second article is linked in the first - https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/elijah-hemingway-pittsburgh-doctor-stabbing-home-invasion/

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Suspect arrested in July
Hemingway was arrested in July following what police said was a burglary in Pittsburgh's Spring Hill-City View neighborhood.
Back in February, a woman reported to police that she had just returned home from dropping off her child at daycare when she noticed her laptop had been moved.
The criminal complaint says she looked at her Nest camera and saw Hemingway force himself inside and steal two iPhone 13s and her laptop.

She explained to police that Hemingway was her former partner. She told police he never lived there and was not allowed to be inside.
Released on nonmonetary bond
Hemingway was charged with both burglary and theft by unlawful taking. Court records show he was released the day after his arrest on a nonmonetary bond in other words, without payment.
Attorney Phil DiLucente, who is not representing Hemingway in either case, explained that when deciding on bond, courts take into account a few things. They look at criminal history, if someone is a threat to the community and if they are a flight risk.
DiLucente said in the burglary case, based on Pennsylvania's online court records system, Hemingway had no previous criminal history, just summary offenses.
Hemingway had been due back in court for that burglary on Oct. 1. As for the stabbing, he's awaiting a preliminary hearing.

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His criminal history is burglary of 2 phones and a laptop. He is a criminal. I don't know that this information leads me to believe the the judge should be sued because he should have known what was going to have happen.

dude95 said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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dude95 said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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Yes. You are definitely missing something here.

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Ok - what is it? What would have been the correct thing to have happened.

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This Person of Diversity had a criminal past, so maybe -- I dont know, I'm just spitballing here -- keep him in jail for being a dirtbag criminal?

Here's what the news reported:

Quote:

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Joseph said that Hemingway does not live in the Edgewood area and that he did not immediately have information about whether Hemingway had a criminal history. The investigation continues.

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I have information from the same report in the OP that he DID have a criminal history, from just 2 months ago. It's very clear. Why did he not disclose that?

Right. The investigation continues....

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The second article is linked in the first - https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/elijah-hemingway-pittsburgh-doctor-stabbing-home-invasion/

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Suspect arrested in July
Hemingway was arrested in July following what police said was a burglary in Pittsburgh's Spring Hill-City View neighborhood.
Back in February, a woman reported to police that she had just returned home from dropping off her child at daycare when she noticed her laptop had been moved.
The criminal complaint says she looked at her Nest camera and saw Hemingway force himself inside and steal two iPhone 13s and her laptop.

She explained to police that Hemingway was her former partner. She told police he never lived there and was not allowed to be inside.
Released on nonmonetary bond
Hemingway was charged with both burglary and theft by unlawful taking. Court records show he was released the day after his arrest on a nonmonetary bond in other words, without payment.
Attorney Phil DiLucente, who is not representing Hemingway in either case, explained that when deciding on bond, courts take into account a few things. They look at criminal history, if someone is a threat to the community and if they are a flight risk.
DiLucente said in the burglary case, based on Pennsylvania's online court records system, Hemingway had no previous criminal history, just summary offenses.
Hemingway had been due back in court for that burglary on Oct. 1. As for the stabbing, he's awaiting a preliminary hearing.

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His criminal history is burglary of 2 phones and a laptop. He is a criminal. I don't know that this information leads me to believe the the judge should be sued because he should have known what was going to have happen.

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Do you think this nutsack has $10k to rub together to get out of jail for his previous offenses? I dont.

He would still be in jail if not for cashless bail, is my point. The judge let a suspected felon out with nothing but an X on the dotted line.

This is now a pervasive problem that is too hard to ignore, to most people.

BadMoonRisin said:

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dude95 said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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dude95 said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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Yes. You are definitely missing something here.

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Ok - what is it? What would have been the correct thing to have happened.

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This Person of Diversity had a criminal past, so maybe -- I dont know, I'm just spitballing here -- keep him in jail for being a dirtbag criminal?

Here's what the news reported:

Quote:

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Joseph said that Hemingway does not live in the Edgewood area and that he did not immediately have information about whether Hemingway had a criminal history. The investigation continues.

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I have information from the same report in the OP that he DID have a criminal history, from just 2 months ago. It's very clear. Why did he not disclose that?

Right. The investigation continues....

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The second article is linked in the first - https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/elijah-hemingway-pittsburgh-doctor-stabbing-home-invasion/

Quote:

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Suspect arrested in July
Hemingway was arrested in July following what police said was a burglary in Pittsburgh's Spring Hill-City View neighborhood.
Back in February, a woman reported to police that she had just returned home from dropping off her child at daycare when she noticed her laptop had been moved.
The criminal complaint says she looked at her Nest camera and saw Hemingway force himself inside and steal two iPhone 13s and her laptop.

She explained to police that Hemingway was her former partner. She told police he never lived there and was not allowed to be inside.
Released on nonmonetary bond
Hemingway was charged with both burglary and theft by unlawful taking. Court records show he was released the day after his arrest on a nonmonetary bond in other words, without payment.
Attorney Phil DiLucente, who is not representing Hemingway in either case, explained that when deciding on bond, courts take into account a few things. They look at criminal history, if someone is a threat to the community and if they are a flight risk.
DiLucente said in the burglary case, based on Pennsylvania's online court records system, Hemingway had no previous criminal history, just summary offenses.
Hemingway had been due back in court for that burglary on Oct. 1. As for the stabbing, he's awaiting a preliminary hearing.

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His criminal history is burglary of 2 phones and a laptop. He is a criminal. I don't know that this information leads me to believe the the judge should be sued because he should have known what was going to have happen.

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Do you think this nutsack has $10k to rub together to get out of jail for his previous offenses? I dont.

He would still be in jail if not for cashless bail, is my point. The judge let a suspected felon out with nothing but an X on the dotted line.

This is now a pervasive problem that is too hard to ignore, to most people.

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That's the issue. Keep him in jail because he has no money, not because of his actions.

If stealing 2 phones and a laptop is worth keeping him in jail, then so be it. Feel like that's overkill, but you do you. If he has enough money, he should be free to walk the streets because bail is the answer. If they show a history of committing horrendous crimes but have enough money, let them walk the streets.

This was the case of someone who had been cought committing a small crime in the past committed a much bigger crime now. He's a psycho who needs to pay for the big crime. That doesn't mean that every burgler should be sentanced to life (not sure in this logic how we ever trust them).

dude95 said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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dude95 said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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dude95 said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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Yes. You are definitely missing something here.

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Ok - what is it? What would have been the correct thing to have happened.

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This Person of Diversity had a criminal past, so maybe -- I dont know, I'm just spitballing here -- keep him in jail for being a dirtbag criminal?

Here's what the news reported:

Quote:

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Joseph said that Hemingway does not live in the Edgewood area and that he did not immediately have information about whether Hemingway had a criminal history. The investigation continues.

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I have information from the same report in the OP that he DID have a criminal history, from just 2 months ago. It's very clear. Why did he not disclose that?

Right. The investigation continues....

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The second article is linked in the first - https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/elijah-hemingway-pittsburgh-doctor-stabbing-home-invasion/

Quote:

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Suspect arrested in July
Hemingway was arrested in July following what police said was a burglary in Pittsburgh's Spring Hill-City View neighborhood.
Back in February, a woman reported to police that she had just returned home from dropping off her child at daycare when she noticed her laptop had been moved.
The criminal complaint says she looked at her Nest camera and saw Hemingway force himself inside and steal two iPhone 13s and her laptop.

She explained to police that Hemingway was her former partner. She told police he never lived there and was not allowed to be inside.
Released on nonmonetary bond
Hemingway was charged with both burglary and theft by unlawful taking. Court records show he was released the day after his arrest on a nonmonetary bond in other words, without payment.
Attorney Phil DiLucente, who is not representing Hemingway in either case, explained that when deciding on bond, courts take into account a few things. They look at criminal history, if someone is a threat to the community and if they are a flight risk.
DiLucente said in the burglary case, based on Pennsylvania's online court records system, Hemingway had no previous criminal history, just summary offenses.
Hemingway had been due back in court for that burglary on Oct. 1. As for the stabbing, he's awaiting a preliminary hearing.

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His criminal history is burglary of 2 phones and a laptop. He is a criminal. I don't know that this information leads me to believe the the judge should be sued because he should have known what was going to have happen.

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Do you think this nutsack has $10k to rub together to get out of jail for his previous offenses? I dont.

He would still be in jail if not for cashless bail, is my point. The judge let a suspected felon out with nothing but an X on the dotted line.

This is now a pervasive problem that is too hard to ignore, to most people.

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That's the issue. Keep him in jail because he has no money, not because of his actions.

If stealing 2 phones and a laptop is worth keeping him in jail, then so be it. Feel like that's overkill, but you do you. If he has enough money, he should be free to walk the streets because bail is the answer. If they show a history of committing horrendous crimes but have enough money, let them walk the streets.

This was the case of someone who had been cought committing a small crime in the past committed a much bigger crime now. He's a psycho who needs to pay for the big crime. That doesn't mean that every burgler should be sentanced to life (not sure in this logic how we ever trust them).

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So it was a "mostly peaceful" robbery?

You keep dancing around the obvious point. If this man was held in jail for his previous crimes, and not allowed to walk out of jail with no consequences, he wouldn't have had the opportunity to commit a double murder.

Sure, if his bail was $1B and he paid $1B to bond out and did this, OK, peace. But he didn't have a single cent of skin in the game.

When you send a signal to a person who thinks like this that everything will be OK and nothing is wrong or right and there are no consequences for committing acts that normal reasonable people view as abhorrant and anti-social, this is what happens. They keep doing what they were doing, but worse next time.

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Not to victim blame, but…

No dog? No security system? Were their doors even locked? I don't understand how you don't exercise a modicum of security and situational awareness, especially if you live outside a major metro. I live outside of a town with 1700 people, and I still have 4 loud dogs, an alarm, and multiple locks between me and an intruder.

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No AR? Your funeral.

doubledog said:

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maverick2076 said:

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Not to victim blame, but…

No dog? No security system? Were their doors even locked? I don't understand how you don't exercise a modicum of security and situational awareness, especially if you live outside a major metro. I live outside of a town with 1700 people, and I still have 4 loud dogs, an alarm, and multiple locks between me and an intruder.

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You forgot the moat and alligators.

In this case the best way to prevent the attack was to incarcerate the perpetrator.

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Oh that's good! I laughed out loud.

The investigation is still underway.

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Battery of a Law Enforcement Officer in Florida
A Florida docket from 2025 details the assault on three deputies who approached him after he began yelling inside of a Wells Fargo bank.

Hemingway allegedly left the bank and walked across the street to the Deltona Plaza Shopping Center. A deputy approached Hemingway, who police say was making concerning statements, including a statement on the deputy being part of a simulation.

At one point, Hemingway allegedly referred to himself as an Egyptian Pharaoh before running and jumping on parked cars.

The report states the deputy wanted to have Hemingway be evaluated for a Baker Act, which is a Florida law for someone to be detained for mental health purposes.

The complaint says a deputy chased Hemingway, who turned and punched the deputy.

More deputies arrived to the scene and attempted to take Hemingway into custody. Authorities say he hit and pushed one deputy, pushed a second and then kicked a third. All received minor injuries from the altercation.

He was charged and pleaded no contest to Battery of a Law Enforcement Officer.

Domestic Violence Charge from Florida
In a second 2025 case out of Florida, Hemingway allegedly got into an argument with his ex-girlfriend who he lived with in Deltona.

During this argument, he is accused of punching the woman multiple times and grabbing her by the neck.

The victim told authorities she ran into a bathroom with her son and locked themselves inside before calling police.

The complaint states Hemingway refused to speak with deputies when they arrived, saying he did not do anything wrong.

He was taken into custody for domestic violence charges, with the complaint stating, "A criminal history check on Elijah revealed multiple prior arrested for assault and aggravated assault in Pennsylvania with no prosecution."

Break-in in Pittsburgh
In February of 2026, Hemingway is accused of breaking into the home of his ex-partner in Pittsburgh.

Police say Hemingway forced his way into the home on Overbeck Street and stole multiple items while his ex-partner was dropping her child off at day care.

Hemingway allegedly stole a laptop, as well as two iPhones.

The victim told police Hemingway never lived at her home and was not allowed inside.

He was facing charges of burglary and theft by unlawful taking in that case.

Sexual Assault Investigation
District Attorney Stephen Zappala said authorities are also looking into Hemingway being connected to a sexual assault case in Allegheny County.

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When you treat someone who definitely did do something wrong as if they didnt do anything wrong, bad consequences follow. This is day one ****, why are we even arguing about it? This dude should have been in jail.

BadMoonRisin said:

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dude95 said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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dude95 said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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dude95 said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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Yes. You are definitely missing something here.

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Ok - what is it? What would have been the correct thing to have happened.

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This Person of Diversity had a criminal past, so maybe -- I dont know, I'm just spitballing here -- keep him in jail for being a dirtbag criminal?

Here's what the news reported:

Quote:

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Joseph said that Hemingway does not live in the Edgewood area and that he did not immediately have information about whether Hemingway had a criminal history. The investigation continues.

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I have information from the same report in the OP that he DID have a criminal history, from just 2 months ago. It's very clear. Why did he not disclose that?

Right. The investigation continues....

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The second article is linked in the first - https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/elijah-hemingway-pittsburgh-doctor-stabbing-home-invasion/

Quote:

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Suspect arrested in July
Hemingway was arrested in July following what police said was a burglary in Pittsburgh's Spring Hill-City View neighborhood.
Back in February, a woman reported to police that she had just returned home from dropping off her child at daycare when she noticed her laptop had been moved.
The criminal complaint says she looked at her Nest camera and saw Hemingway force himself inside and steal two iPhone 13s and her laptop.

She explained to police that Hemingway was her former partner. She told police he never lived there and was not allowed to be inside.
Released on nonmonetary bond
Hemingway was charged with both burglary and theft by unlawful taking. Court records show he was released the day after his arrest on a nonmonetary bond in other words, without payment.
Attorney Phil DiLucente, who is not representing Hemingway in either case, explained that when deciding on bond, courts take into account a few things. They look at criminal history, if someone is a threat to the community and if they are a flight risk.
DiLucente said in the burglary case, based on Pennsylvania's online court records system, Hemingway had no previous criminal history, just summary offenses.
Hemingway had been due back in court for that burglary on Oct. 1. As for the stabbing, he's awaiting a preliminary hearing.

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His criminal history is burglary of 2 phones and a laptop. He is a criminal. I don't know that this information leads me to believe the the judge should be sued because he should have known what was going to have happen.

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Do you think this nutsack has $10k to rub together to get out of jail for his previous offenses? I dont.

He would still be in jail if not for cashless bail, is my point. The judge let a suspected felon out with nothing but an X on the dotted line.

This is now a pervasive problem that is too hard to ignore, to most people.

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That's the issue. Keep him in jail because he has no money, not because of his actions.

If stealing 2 phones and a laptop is worth keeping him in jail, then so be it. Feel like that's overkill, but you do you. If he has enough money, he should be free to walk the streets because bail is the answer. If they show a history of committing horrendous crimes but have enough money, let them walk the streets.

This was the case of someone who had been cought committing a small crime in the past committed a much bigger crime now. He's a psycho who needs to pay for the big crime. That doesn't mean that every burgler should be sentanced to life (not sure in this logic how we ever trust them).

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So it was a "mostly peaceful" robbery?

You keep dancing around the obvious point. If this man was held in jail for his previous crimes, and not allowed to walk out of jail with no consequences, he wouldn't have had the opportunity to commit a double murder.

Sure, if his bail was $1B and he paid $1B to bond out and did this, OK, peace. But he didn't have a single cent of skin in the game.

When you send a signal to a person who thinks like this that everything will be OK and nothing is wrong or right and there are no consequences for committing acts that normal reasonable people view as abhorrant and anti-social, this is what happens. They keep doing what they were doing, but worse next time.

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So the law should be that everyone who is arrested for any reason should stay in jail until trial to determine guilt or innocence unless they have cash to get themselves out. I'm all for punishment of those convicted of crimes - but he hasn't even been convicted of the burglary. By the way - would you have felt better if he had put down $1k to bail bondsman to front the $10k? Then it' ok? What do you believe would have stopped this horrendous crime?

Tell me exactly how you think this should work for a robbery of two old cell phones and a laptop. This goes for a poor guy or a teenage kid doing something stupid. Kid gets out free as a bird because daddy pays his bail?

Waffledynamics said:

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Judges need to start being held accountable for this stuff.

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If there is a significant history of violations and convictions, especially with anything violent, there should be a case of negligence where the judge is stripped of immunity and liable. Flat out. Would have to wait until the culprit was convicted of course, but that judge should have a Sword of Damocles over their head until the end.

He's had multiple run-ins with the law, if you read my post above and was apparently never punished for them. Yes. I think he should have been in jail for any number of these reasons.

It wasn't a one-time thing with him.

Judicial and prosecutorial decisions that come back to bite innocents in the butt continue to increase in frequency, it seems. This just popped up, and hits a bit closer to home.

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2026/09/24/records-woman-accused-of-helping-in-sons-planned-mass-violence-attack-has-charge-dropped-due-to-insufficient-evidence/

Tramp96 said:

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What's the problem, here?

The guy that got killed is white. Black man was simply enacting social justice on the oppressive white guy. White guy had it coming.

Where's the Go Fund Me for this noble justice warrior?

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Well, that's 1 less to pay reparations, so it hurts the cause. Black on black is better, less blacks to collect reparations when the Dumbasscrats take over. So more for the race hustlers.

Did I do that right?

dude95 said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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dude95 said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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dude95 said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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dude95 said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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Yes. You are definitely missing something here.

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Ok - what is it? What would have been the correct thing to have happened.

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This Person of Diversity had a criminal past, so maybe -- I dont know, I'm just spitballing here -- keep him in jail for being a dirtbag criminal?

Here's what the news reported:

Quote:

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Joseph said that Hemingway does not live in the Edgewood area and that he did not immediately have information about whether Hemingway had a criminal history. The investigation continues.

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I have information from the same report in the OP that he DID have a criminal history, from just 2 months ago. It's very clear. Why did he not disclose that?

Right. The investigation continues....

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The second article is linked in the first - https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/elijah-hemingway-pittsburgh-doctor-stabbing-home-invasion/

Quote:

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Suspect arrested in July
Hemingway was arrested in July following what police said was a burglary in Pittsburgh's Spring Hill-City View neighborhood.
Back in February, a woman reported to police that she had just returned home from dropping off her child at daycare when she noticed her laptop had been moved.
The criminal complaint says she looked at her Nest camera and saw Hemingway force himself inside and steal two iPhone 13s and her laptop.

She explained to police that Hemingway was her former partner. She told police he never lived there and was not allowed to be inside.
Released on nonmonetary bond
Hemingway was charged with both burglary and theft by unlawful taking. Court records show he was released the day after his arrest on a nonmonetary bond in other words, without payment.
Attorney Phil DiLucente, who is not representing Hemingway in either case, explained that when deciding on bond, courts take into account a few things. They look at criminal history, if someone is a threat to the community and if they are a flight risk.
DiLucente said in the burglary case, based on Pennsylvania's online court records system, Hemingway had no previous criminal history, just summary offenses.
Hemingway had been due back in court for that burglary on Oct. 1. As for the stabbing, he's awaiting a preliminary hearing.

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His criminal history is burglary of 2 phones and a laptop. He is a criminal. I don't know that this information leads me to believe the the judge should be sued because he should have known what was going to have happen.

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Do you think this nutsack has $10k to rub together to get out of jail for his previous offenses? I dont.

He would still be in jail if not for cashless bail, is my point. The judge let a suspected felon out with nothing but an X on the dotted line.

This is now a pervasive problem that is too hard to ignore, to most people.

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That's the issue. Keep him in jail because he has no money, not because of his actions.

If stealing 2 phones and a laptop is worth keeping him in jail, then so be it. Feel like that's overkill, but you do you. If he has enough money, he should be free to walk the streets because bail is the answer. If they show a history of committing horrendous crimes but have enough money, let them walk the streets.

This was the case of someone who had been cought committing a small crime in the past committed a much bigger crime now. He's a psycho who needs to pay for the big crime. That doesn't mean that every burgler should be sentanced to life (not sure in this logic how we ever trust them).

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So it was a "mostly peaceful" robbery?

You keep dancing around the obvious point. If this man was held in jail for his previous crimes, and not allowed to walk out of jail with no consequences, he wouldn't have had the opportunity to commit a double murder.

Sure, if his bail was $1B and he paid $1B to bond out and did this, OK, peace. But he didn't have a single cent of skin in the game.

When you send a signal to a person who thinks like this that everything will be OK and nothing is wrong or right and there are no consequences for committing acts that normal reasonable people view as abhorrant and anti-social, this is what happens. They keep doing what they were doing, but worse next time.

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So the law should be that everyone who is arrested for any reason should stay in jail until trial to determine guilt or innocence unless they have cash to get themselves out. I'm all for punishment of those convicted of crimes - but he hasn't even been convicted of the burglary. By the way - would you have felt better if he had put down $1k to bail bondsman to front the $10k? Then it' ok? What do you believe would have stopped this horrendous crime?

Tell me exactly how you think this should work for a robbery of two old cell phones and a laptop. This goes for a poor guy or a teenage kid doing something stupid. Kid gets out free as a bird because daddy pays his bail?

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You don't usually go from robbing a cell phone, to killing someone.
You are going to find that this dude probably had a history sheet, was never prosecuted, and probably never arrested because the blue state DAs are gonna let them out anyway. So the cops don't even bother to arrest.
that's whats happening right now in Austin.

White couple attached while sleeping by a black man with a knife. Dude must have thought he was in South Africa where they crap is legal.

dude95 said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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dude95 said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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dude95 said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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dude95 said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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Yes. You are definitely missing something here.

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Ok - what is it? What would have been the correct thing to have happened.

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This Person of Diversity had a criminal past, so maybe -- I dont know, I'm just spitballing here -- keep him in jail for being a dirtbag criminal?

Here's what the news reported:

Quote:

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Joseph said that Hemingway does not live in the Edgewood area and that he did not immediately have information about whether Hemingway had a criminal history. The investigation continues.

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I have information from the same report in the OP that he DID have a criminal history, from just 2 months ago. It's very clear. Why did he not disclose that?

Right. The investigation continues....

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The second article is linked in the first - https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/elijah-hemingway-pittsburgh-doctor-stabbing-home-invasion/

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Suspect arrested in July
Hemingway was arrested in July following what police said was a burglary in Pittsburgh's Spring Hill-City View neighborhood.
Back in February, a woman reported to police that she had just returned home from dropping off her child at daycare when she noticed her laptop had been moved.
The criminal complaint says she looked at her Nest camera and saw Hemingway force himself inside and steal two iPhone 13s and her laptop.

She explained to police that Hemingway was her former partner. She told police he never lived there and was not allowed to be inside.
Released on nonmonetary bond
Hemingway was charged with both burglary and theft by unlawful taking. Court records show he was released the day after his arrest on a nonmonetary bond in other words, without payment.
Attorney Phil DiLucente, who is not representing Hemingway in either case, explained that when deciding on bond, courts take into account a few things. They look at criminal history, if someone is a threat to the community and if they are a flight risk.
DiLucente said in the burglary case, based on Pennsylvania's online court records system, Hemingway had no previous criminal history, just summary offenses.
Hemingway had been due back in court for that burglary on Oct. 1. As for the stabbing, he's awaiting a preliminary hearing.

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His criminal history is burglary of 2 phones and a laptop. He is a criminal. I don't know that this information leads me to believe the the judge should be sued because he should have known what was going to have happen.

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Do you think this nutsack has $10k to rub together to get out of jail for his previous offenses? I dont.

He would still be in jail if not for cashless bail, is my point. The judge let a suspected felon out with nothing but an X on the dotted line.

This is now a pervasive problem that is too hard to ignore, to most people.

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That's the issue. Keep him in jail because he has no money, not because of his actions.

If stealing 2 phones and a laptop is worth keeping him in jail, then so be it. Feel like that's overkill, but you do you. If he has enough money, he should be free to walk the streets because bail is the answer. If they show a history of committing horrendous crimes but have enough money, let them walk the streets.

This was the case of someone who had been cought committing a small crime in the past committed a much bigger crime now. He's a psycho who needs to pay for the big crime. That doesn't mean that every burgler should be sentanced to life (not sure in this logic how we ever trust them).

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So it was a "mostly peaceful" robbery?

You keep dancing around the obvious point. If this man was held in jail for his previous crimes, and not allowed to walk out of jail with no consequences, he wouldn't have had the opportunity to commit a double murder.

Sure, if his bail was $1B and he paid $1B to bond out and did this, OK, peace. But he didn't have a single cent of skin in the game.

When you send a signal to a person who thinks like this that everything will be OK and nothing is wrong or right and there are no consequences for committing acts that normal reasonable people view as abhorrant and anti-social, this is what happens. They keep doing what they were doing, but worse next time.

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So the law should be that everyone who is arrested for any reason should stay in jail until trial to determine guilt or innocence unless they have cash to get themselves out. I'm all for punishment of those convicted of crimes - but he hasn't even been convicted of the burglary. By the way - would you have felt better if he had put down $1k to bail bondsman to front the $10k? Then it' ok? What do you believe would have stopped this horrendous crime?

Tell me exactly how you think this should work for a robbery of two old cell phones and a laptop. This goes for a poor guy or a teenage kid doing something stupid. Kid gets out free as a bird because daddy pays his bail?

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He was taken into custody for domestic violence charges, with the complaint stating, "A criminal history check on Elijah revealed multiple prior arrested for assault and aggravated assault in Pennsylvania with no prosecution."

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He was let go several times for misbehavior and was under investigation for sexual assault. There were plenty of opportunities to put him behind bars for a long time. Instead, they just let him walk. That's my entire point.

But keep defending trash people and cashless bail, I guess. You do you.

Anyway, do you know blacks are being lynched all around the country?

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Yes. You are definitely missing something here.

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Ok - what is it? What would have been the correct thing to have happened.

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This Person of Diversity had a criminal past, so maybe -- I dont know, I'm just spitballing here -- keep him in jail for being a dirtbag criminal?

Here's what the news reported:

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Joseph said that Hemingway does not live in the Edgewood area and that he did not immediately have information about whether Hemingway had a criminal history. The investigation continues.

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I have information from the same report in the OP that he DID have a criminal history, from just 2 months ago. It's very clear. Why did he not disclose that?

Right. The investigation continues....

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The second article is linked in the first - https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/elijah-hemingway-pittsburgh-doctor-stabbing-home-invasion/

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Suspect arrested in July
Hemingway was arrested in July following what police said was a burglary in Pittsburgh's Spring Hill-City View neighborhood.
Back in February, a woman reported to police that she had just returned home from dropping off her child at daycare when she noticed her laptop had been moved.
The criminal complaint says she looked at her Nest camera and saw Hemingway force himself inside and steal two iPhone 13s and her laptop.

She explained to police that Hemingway was her former partner. She told police he never lived there and was not allowed to be inside.
Released on nonmonetary bond
Hemingway was charged with both burglary and theft by unlawful taking. Court records show he was released the day after his arrest on a nonmonetary bond in other words, without payment.
Attorney Phil DiLucente, who is not representing Hemingway in either case, explained that when deciding on bond, courts take into account a few things. They look at criminal history, if someone is a threat to the community and if they are a flight risk.
DiLucente said in the burglary case, based on Pennsylvania's online court records system, Hemingway had no previous criminal history, just summary offenses.
Hemingway had been due back in court for that burglary on Oct. 1. As for the stabbing, he's awaiting a preliminary hearing.

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His criminal history is burglary of 2 phones and a laptop. He is a criminal. I don't know that this information leads me to believe the the judge should be sued because he should have known what was going to have happen.

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Do you think this nutsack has $10k to rub together to get out of jail for his previous offenses? I dont.

He would still be in jail if not for cashless bail, is my point. The judge let a suspected felon out with nothing but an X on the dotted line.

This is now a pervasive problem that is too hard to ignore, to most people.

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That's the issue. Keep him in jail because he has no money, not because of his actions.

If stealing 2 phones and a laptop is worth keeping him in jail, then so be it. Feel like that's overkill, but you do you. If he has enough money, he should be free to walk the streets because bail is the answer. If they show a history of committing horrendous crimes but have enough money, let them walk the streets.

This was the case of someone who had been cought committing a small crime in the past committed a much bigger crime now. He's a psycho who needs to pay for the big crime. That doesn't mean that every burgler should be sentanced to life (not sure in this logic how we ever trust them).

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So it was a "mostly peaceful" robbery?

You keep dancing around the obvious point. If this man was held in jail for his previous crimes, and not allowed to walk out of jail with no consequences, he wouldn't have had the opportunity to commit a double murder.

Sure, if his bail was $1B and he paid $1B to bond out and did this, OK, peace. But he didn't have a single cent of skin in the game.

When you send a signal to a person who thinks like this that everything will be OK and nothing is wrong or right and there are no consequences for committing acts that normal reasonable people view as abhorrant and anti-social, this is what happens. They keep doing what they were doing, but worse next time.

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So the law should be that everyone who is arrested for any reason should stay in jail until trial to determine guilt or innocence unless they have cash to get themselves out. I'm all for punishment of those convicted of crimes - but he hasn't even been convicted of the burglary. By the way - would you have felt better if he had put down $1k to bail bondsman to front the $10k? Then it' ok? What do you believe would have stopped this horrendous crime?

Tell me exactly how you think this should work for a robbery of two old cell phones and a laptop. This goes for a poor guy or a teenage kid doing something stupid. Kid gets out free as a bird because daddy pays his bail?

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He was taken into custody for domestic violence charges, with the complaint stating, "A criminal history check on Elijah revealed multiple prior arrested for assault and aggravated assault in Pennsylvania with no prosecution."

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He was let go several times for misbehavior and was under investigation for sexual assault. There were plenty of opportunities to put him behind bars for a long time. Instead, they just let him walk. That's my entire point.

But keep defending trash people and cashless bail, I guess. You do you.

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I'll say it. I don't give a flaming flying **** if this guy had to sit in jail based on the things he was accused of.

I wouldn't care if they stuck a plastic bag over his head and save the taxpayer of a **** ton of money

I used to think punishments were too harsh, but as I've become an adult, and I understand the value of life and I have children anybody who is even involved in these types of behaviors should be executed every single time

I don't care if we get it wrong every now and then. If you get falsely accused of something like this, you're probably a piece of **** anyway. Good enough reason for me.

I can promise you I will go my entire life and never have been accused of doing things a quarter as bad as this guy.

Comin' in hot, huh?

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Comin' in hot, huh?

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Yep

Tired of worthless people corrupting our society.

We could do without the small minorities of people ruining life for everyone else.

This guy just ruined multiple peoples lives.

The Wife, his parents, his kids will be ruined and others will suffer around them.

In one pathway his kids are raised well go to great schools become doctors raise more intelligent kids

Here you may have generational damage because of this piece of *****

Yes, he should've been executed a long time ago.

"And Draco himself, they say, being asked why he made death the penalty for most offences, replied that in his opinion the lesser ones deserved it, and for the greater ones no heavier penalty could be found." - Plutarch

no lies detected.

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Judges need to start being held accountable for this stuff.

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watching bodycam footage youtube channels and basically EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE felons

is out on bail or was released from prison before committing more crimes

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Judges need to start being held accountable for this stuff.

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watching bodycam footage youtube channels and basically EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE felons

is out on bail or was released from prison before committing more crimes

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"restorative justice", not just a slogan, a practice



we are reaching levels of ******ation that would have never been thought possible 10 years ago.

Low T voters, please chime in on how wrong I am.

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Judges need to start being held accountable for this stuff.

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watching bodycam footage youtube channels and basically EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE felons

is out on bail or was released from prison before committing more crimes

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"restorative justice", not just a slogan, a practice



we are reaching levels of ******ation that would have never been thought possible 10 years ago.

Low T voters, please chime in on how wrong I am.

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That whole chart is disgusting. That's what happens when you're allow women to vote.

Hey Kids! I snuck into your house while your parents were sleeping and STABBED YOUR MOM AND DAD TO DEATH...

how can we make this more equitible for me? I mean, I did have cuts on my hands and was taken away in an ambulance and I have committed several felonies prior to this, but all the same, how do I help you get over this?

All I am looking for is healing, restoration, and resolution. Can we call it even?

/no ****ing person ever. People who believe in this ******ed **** need to be stuffed into lockers, trashcans, or given swirlies for the rest of their lives. I dont care if they are 4 or 45.

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Tell me exactly how you think this should work for a robbery of two old cell phones and a laptop. This goes for a poor guy or a teenage kid doing something stupid. Kid gets out free as a bird because daddy pays his bail?

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There is a massive difference between stealing something and breaking into a house to steal something. Robbery becomes violence when a house that a criminal breaks into turns out to be occupied or a resident returns home during the commission of a crime. A judge should recognize that. Bail provides at least a minimum level of incentive to not commit a crime again. If someone can't afford bail, I'm good with a forced labor camp until they have earned enough to pay their bail or get to trial. It's not like they are leaving prison to return to a job and be a productive member of society

Personally, I'm ready for Singapore levels of punishment far exceeding the crime.

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You don't usually go from robbing a cell phone, to killing someone.

You are going to find that this dude probably had a history sheet, was never prosecuted, and probably never arrested because the blue state DAs are gonna let them out anyway. So the cops don't even bother to arrest.
that's whats happening right now in Austin.

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He was arrested on an actual violent charge in Florida and then let free after a mental hold. This information wasn't available to the DA or the judge in Pittsburgh. The DA readily admitted they didn't appeal either.

There was a massive failure in the information pipeline.

Do we blame the authorities in Florida for releasing him too?

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You don't usually go from robbing a cell phone, to killing someone.

You are going to find that this dude probably had a history sheet, was never prosecuted, and probably never arrested because the blue state DAs are gonna let them out anyway. So the cops don't even bother to arrest.
that's whats happening right now in Austin.

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He was arrested on an actual violent charge in Florida and then let free after a mental hold. This information wasn't available to the DA or the judge in Pittsburgh. The DA readily admitted they didn't appeal either.

There was a massive failure in the information pipeline.

Do we blame the authorities in Florida for releasing him too?

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YES