gbaby23 said:

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This is why it should be federally legalized and heavily regulated. You're not getting rid of weed any time soon and I would rather the potheads not be poisoned by the Chinese.

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"How to make a black market stronger in 1 easy step."

BigRobSA said:

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"How to make a black market stronger in 1 easy step."

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no need to be racist.

blacks are not the only ones that smoke pot!

stereotype much?

CascadiaAg said:

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BigRobSA said:

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"How to make a black market stronger in 1 easy step."

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no need to be racist.

blacks are not the only ones that smoke pot!

stereotype much?

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If only they made taco flavored weed ...

BigRobSA said:

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CascadiaAg said:

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BigRobSA said:

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"How to make a black market stronger in 1 easy step."

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no need to be racist.

blacks are not the only ones that smoke pot!

stereotype much?

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If only they made taco flavored weed ...

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you'd probably still put ranch AND salsa on it.

CascadiaAg said:

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BigRobSA said:

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CascadiaAg said:

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BigRobSA said:

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"How to make a black market stronger in 1 easy step."

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no need to be racist.

blacks are not the only ones that smoke pot!

stereotype much?

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If only they made taco flavored weed ...

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you'd probably still put ranch AND salsa on it.

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Hank the Grifter said:

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The Chinese aspect of it probably wasn't high on the list but the notion that legalization would somehow remove the black market aspect from the equation was always utterly laughable and, as you stated, completely predictable.

Drugs have had as much to do with the decay of this country as anything…and may be higher on the list than I'm giving them credit for.

That's a portion of the populace that I will never support or have any sympathy for. Absolute destructive losers.

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As a destructive loser nurses his cocktail whle penning a post...

Lets keep this about weed, and not democrats.

A drug is a drug is a drug.

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Hank the Grifter said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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"Legalization turns into a bonanza for illegal gangs".

How does an illegal grower part of "legalization"?

And if California, like OK, are not policing their legal growers effectively, then how would they have ever hoped to police illegal growers?

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The point is that a problem was made worse.
And it's the least surprising thing ever. 100% foreseeable by everyone who isn't a pothead or Libertarian.

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Yes, anyone and everyone that uses marijuana is a pothead. It's used either every day or none of the time by people, no in between.

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FIFY

Yes, anyone and everyone that uses alcohol is an alcoholic. It's used either every day or none of the time by people, no in between.

The ignorance isn't astounding.

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This is why it should be federally legalized and heavily regulated. You're not getting rid of weed any time soon and I would rather the potheads not be poisoned by the chinese.

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I've always wondered what if the bad guys who deal in drugs around the world decided to kill Americans all at one time by lacing the drugs they sell into this nation with kill all. How many people would die before the word got around that shat is laced at apocalyptic levels?

This would slow things down for some time and lots of people would be out long term on the use of drugs, but people be doing that shat again before long. Just like 9/11, how soon we forget.

Hardcore Greg said:

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Hank the Grifter said:

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The Chinese aspect of it probably wasn't high on the list but the notion that legalization would somehow remove the black market aspect from the equation was always utterly laughable and, as you stated, completely predictable.

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Especially when you tax it so damn high like CA and CO do. Pretty much only the rich and "weed tourists" buy legally there.

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Just left CO. Seltzers for the evening were cheaper than buying beers at the brewery. Although we did that too.

Americans like their recreational drugs

not sure that is ever going to change

IndividualFreedom said:

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This is why it should be federally legalized and heavily regulated. You're not getting rid of weed any time soon and I would rather the potheads not be poisoned by the chinese.

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I've always wondered what if the bad guys who deal in drugs around the world decided to kill Americans all at one time by lacing the drugs they sell into this nation with kill all. How many people would die before the word got around that shat is laced at apocalyptic levels?

This would slow things down for some time and lots of people would be out long term on the use of drugs, but people be doing that shat again before long. Just like 9/11, how soon we forget.

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Why would you intentionally kill off all of your paying customers

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Americans like their recreational drugs

not sure that is ever going to change

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They would have in the 1700 and 1800's too, if it had been prevalent. Have you seen how much hard liquor they used to drink back then?

Can they make marijuana not smell like a skunk took a bath in dirty laundry and foot sweat?

If so I'm all for it.

A lot of the weed is cycled into the legally grown and controlled marijuana supply. Other parts of the supply are muled into other states where its illegal. Legal shops either buy it unknowingly or intentionally... either way, if it was still illegal, the demand would be down and people wouldn't be subjected to the chemicals.

The thing that causes this is the taxation and control of the market done by the state... the Chinese skip the taxation, testing, etc which is how its profitable.

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Other than it's not helpful to link a suspect article and then include a wall of text with no summary, I am struggling to how an illegal Chinese grow operation in California is impacting legal marijuana production and retail.

Can the OP share more on the connection? Now Oklahoma has some actual issues with Chinese overtaking local licensed growers and getting their weed into the "legal" supply which has resulted in many shunning OK weed as it's not okay.

Like with AI, the article is straight up fear porn designed to trick low information folks into being against something because someone told them lies about it being bad.

Folks, do your own research on any drugs you consume, particularly ones prescribed by compensated physicians and supported by billion dollar ad campaigns.

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Americans like their recreational drugs

not sure that is ever going to change

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Believe the history of mind altering chemical use goes back some 25,000 years. Cannabis 5,000 years. Not just an American thing.

Though we did make India outlaw weed in order to admit them into modern society after their independence. They had 30 years to outlaw it ending in the mid 1980s.

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Can they make marijuana not smell like a skunk took a bath in dirty laundry and foot sweat?

If so I'm all for it.

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It's called "gummies" and "vapes". Two women walked by me in the casino the other night, and I swear there was a pot cloud following them. They reeked.

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Can they make marijuana not smell like a skunk took a bath in dirty laundry and foot sweat?

If so I'm all for it.

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They call such things edibles, tinctures, vapes, and the like.

And then there are folks that like the smell, flavor and effects of burning the flower. Those people should take part in such activities in the privacy of their own homes or in a dedicated consumption lounge.

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Wildmen03 said:

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Can they make marijuana not smell like a skunk took a bath in dirty laundry and foot sweat?

If so I'm all for it.

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They call such things edibles, tinctures, vapes, and the like.

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Even with vapes I can smell it. There's that THC smell that is just dank.

Yet another reason to never smoke dope.

I know several users much younger than me. I'll keep an eye on them to see if they succumb to chinyjuana! Maybe if it gets as bad as covid the rest will have the common sense to get off the stuff. Too much risk.

Legalization creates a legal market for marijuana and means people can simply walk around with it and buy it/sell it in the open. If you're going to a dispensary, there are plenty of taxes and regulations involved that make it expensive, but you can go to a dealer with a network established before legalization and buy tax free.

Criminals have a field day with it because now they're only guilty of tax evasion, which is much harder to investigate and prosecute than possession of a controlled substance. Licensing has the same problem as determining who has a driver's license on the road: Driving is legal and ubiquitous, so you assume everyone does until you pull them over and ask. It's easy to blend in. The whole thing makes it much easier for them to operate.

I'm good as long as they stay away from bourbon

ABATTBQ11 said:

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Legalization creates a legal market for marijuana and means people can simply walk around with it and buy it/sell it in the open. If you're going to a dispensary, there are plenty of taxes and regulations involved that make it expensive, but you can go to a dealer with a network established before legalization and buy tax free.

Criminals have a field day with it because now they're only guilty of tax evasion, which is much harder to investigate and prosecute than possession of a controlled substance. Licensing has the same problem as determining who has a driver's license on the road: Driving is legal and ubiquitous, so you assume everyone does until you pull them over and ask. It's easy to blend in. The whole thing makes it much easier for them to operate.

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That is not how it works, is a terrible comparison and just furthers the weedaphobia people have.

A better comparison would be liquor stores. You cannot open your own liquor store of go about standing on the corner reselling bottles of Jack. You will get in trouble for more than just not paying taxes.

The places where weed is legal have many restrictions on when where and how much weed you can by and possess.

It's also still federally prohibited so it's not the IRS but also the DEA that will be on you.

Just doing even the tiniest bit of research on this would have told you all that.

There is no reason to make terrible assumptions and spread ignorance on the subject.

Fake news. Repackaging old news and changing facts to opinions stated as facts.

The Hmong refugees (not really chinese) have been in norcal and minnesota for decades. They have been illegally growing pot in siskiyou county for years. They have been using chinese pesticides for the entire time. The exact same thing is happening in the nearby Emerald Triangle, only the mexican cartels have most of the outdoor grows there. Actual chinese nationals run the indoor grows all over california.

They all use illegal chinese pesticides and steal water because that's how you grow $200 a pound weed; reduce your input costs. The chinese and mexicans also use slave labor. For the Hmongs, it's a family operation.

If you thing transnational criminal organizations are going to give up their industry because of legalization, you are mistaken. Especially when the government makes the cost of doing legal business untenable.

A fake news article to prop up domestic growers and suppliers?

Does Big MJ have lobbyists?

Question everything..

Don't be a pot head and you don't need to worry about it

For those wanting the ultimate experience in smelling weed, the Dazed lounge at Planet 13 is your jam for partaking openly in the funky stuff.

The clientele is a cross section of portly teachers away for the weekend, Snoop Dogg acolytes, and oddly a couple of post 50 men's softball teams.