Trumps simple political strategy, and game theory.

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bmks270
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Trumps simple strategy is really simple and it's kind of shocking other world leaders haven't figured this out yet.

It's literally tit-for-tat.

In game theory tit-for-tat is actually proven to be the most effective strategy.

Summary:

" One of the most iconic scenarios in game theory is the Prisoner's Dilemma, where two parties must choose between cooperation and betrayal, with outcomes dependent on mutual choices. Within this framework, the "tit for tat" strategy has emerged as a powerful and intuitive approach to navigating repeated interactions."

" At its core, the strategy follows a simple rule: "Start by cooperating, then mirror the opponent's last move."

In other words:

If your opponent cooperates in the first round, you cooperate in the next.
If your opponent betrays (defects) in the first round, you betray them in the next.
This "eye for an eye" approach ensures that cooperation is rewarded and defection is punished, fostering trust over timeespecially in long-term, repeated interactions."

https://www.quantopia.net/blog/understanding-tit-for-tat-in-game-theory-strategy-and-application/


This is a very interesting video on game theory and tit-for-tat in academic research and in the real world.



bmks270
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A subtle mention in the Veritas video is that while tit-for-tat was the highest scoring strategy on average, there were some alternate strategies that would beat it in isolation, meaning that there is still a need to gauge your opponent and possibly change your strategy if required.
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Trump has openly said this is his strategy on tariffs. And as game theory has proven, in repeated games tit-for-tat often wins.

Now there was the occasional downward spiral where if both parties are punishing each other in tit-for-tat fashion, it can be hard to exit the punishment loop and get back to mutual cooperation.
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It's brilliant though because it quickly builds trust in your opponents behavior after a few turns. Other players quickly know before they make their next move that they'll be mirrored.
bmks270
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Leftists and Europeans think Trump is nutty and unpredictable, but it's exactly the opposite. He's simply nice to people who are nice to him, and punishes those who aren't. With the media, with foreign leaders, with trade and foreign policy. It's very predictable. The morons might call it petty, but the study of game-theory has proven it works.
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bmks270 said:

Trump has openly said this is his strategy on tariffs. And as game theory has proven, in repeated games tit-for-tar often wins.
still waiting on these supposed tariff wins to manifest
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Old McDonald said:

bmks270 said:

Trump has openly said this is his strategy on tariffs. And as game theory has proven, in repeated games tit-for-tar often wins.
still waiting on these supposed tariff wins to manifest


The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
bmks270
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Old McDonald said:

bmks270 said:

Trump has openly said this is his strategy on tariffs. And as game theory has proven, in repeated games tit-for-tar often wins.
still waiting on these supposed tariff wins to manifest


It's working as intended. My company has kept a few manufactured items in the US due to avoiding customs and the higher tariffs.

But it's not perfect, there could be tit-for-tat loops with both players punishing each other indefinitely at the mutual destruction of both. But a forgiving strategy doesn't win either in this scenario, you just get taken advantage of and lose the game.
TA-OP
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Man who everyone excluding the most ardent President Trump supporters acts like a toddler, does a toddler thing. Somehow, the toddler is playing 4D chess.
BMX Bandit
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6 of first 9 posts on your own thread set a record. Well done
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BMX Bandit said:

6 of first 9 posts on your own thread set a record. Well done

WHOOP!!!
You can turn off signatures, btw
ts5641
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He definitely pushes back if you dis him or America. He's become the most ballsy force for the conservative cause in my lifetime.
Old McDonald
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the right can't meme
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Old McDonald said:

the right can't meme


the irony and self ownage in this post is off the charts
God loves you so much He'll meet you where you are. He also loves you too much to allow to stay where you are.

We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
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Old McDonald said:

the right can't meme


Yep. There used to be an account called "Cursed Boomer Images" to highlight this fact (and "fact" it very much is).
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bmks270 said:

Trump has openly said this is his strategy on tariffs. And as game theory has proven, in repeated games tit-for-tat often wins.

Now there was the occasional downward spiral where if both parties are punishing each other in tit-for-tat fashion, it can be hard to exit the punishment loop and get back to mutual cooperation.

That's true if this was a one-on-one two player game, but it isn't. Trump is playing the same strategy with multiple potential allies/enemies. Look how things are playing out between just three players in the game - Canada, Mexico, and the US. Mexico is cooperating and is being rewarded. Canada isn't and is going to get crushed unless they change strategy.
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This is a tough situation but as with most things Trump the game theory approach has been expensive. I'll give him credit for addressing a persistent and large problem that all of our previous executive leadership teams have mostly chose to either ignore or even worse , encourage and support. My view is finish this thing asap. If it was worth addressing in the first place then it's worth finishing off. Once they fired on American warships the gloves should come off and the IRGC needs to be flattened. If there are collateral damages then so be it.
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Old McDonald said:

bmks270 said:

Trump has openly said this is his strategy on tariffs. And as game theory has proven, in repeated games tit-for-tar often wins.

still waiting on these supposed tariff wins to manifest

Threat of tariffs = manufacturing coming back to US. Surprised you didn't know that. Probably best to expand your news sources.
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30 seconds on Google..

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BMX Bandit said:

6 of first 9 posts on your own thread set a record. Well done

Including at least 5 edits!!
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Old McDonald said:

bmks270 said:

Trump has openly said this is his strategy on tariffs. And as game theory has proven, in repeated games tit-for-tar often wins.
still waiting on these supposed tariff wins to manifest


Trump's tariffs are resulting in increased US manufacturing, which, along with the AI revolution, are adding enough jobs to offset Trump's huge reduction in government workers plus some. The US economy is very strong and unemployment is so low, we are considered at full employment.

Additionally Trump's tax policy allows the expensing of new factories and other capital expenditures which is very pro GDP and pro jobs.
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ts5641 said:

He definitely pushes back if you dis him or America. He's become the most ballsy force for the conservative cause in my lifetime.


Trump is not a force for the conservative cause. No conservative goes on TV and says, "If you vote for my team in the midterms, I'll send you a $5k check."

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The US economy is very strong


Uhm, if I look at banking data, I see lengthening payment cycles throughout the economy. That's a sign of macroeconomic stress. You can't maintain a "strong economy" without "strong cash flows" and we're seeing deterioration.
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Old McDonald said:

bmks270 said:

Trump has openly said this is his strategy on tariffs. And as game theory has proven, in repeated games tit-for-tar often wins.
still waiting on these supposed tariff wins to manifest


People who mock the tariffs shouldn't get to use their tariff dividend checks.
“…What?”

- Joe Biden
Old McDonald
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AggieVictor10 said:

Old McDonald said:

bmks270 said:

Trump has openly said this is his strategy on tariffs. And as game theory has proven, in repeated games tit-for-tar often wins.
still waiting on these supposed tariff wins to manifest


People who mock the tariffs shouldn't get to use their tariff dividend checks.
i don't need the money, but bless your heart if you think you or anyone is getting a tariff dividend check
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