Prime Air 767 Crash - Overrun of Runway in Miami

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Appears to be an overrun of the runway at MIA by a Prime Air 767 Cargo jet from Puerto Rico, not sure on injuries at the moment.

Rapier108
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Was about to make a thread on this. Got pulled away from the computer. Oh well.

5 dead, 5 in the hospital with 3 critical.

https://wsvn.com/news/local/miami-dade/at-least-5-dead-5-injured-after-cargo-plane-overruns-runway-strikes-multiple-vehicles-near-mia/







Aircraft was N1997A, a Boeing 767-33A built in 1994 for Ansett Worldwide Aviation Services (Leasing Company).
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Hope everyone is OK
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Burdizzo said:

Hope everyone is OK


They are not. At least 5 dead and 5 injured
fc2112
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What, a company that emphasizes the very cheapest of everything screwed something up?
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You do realize Amazon doesn't operate the planes, don't you?
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fc2112 said:

What, a company that emphasizes the very cheapest of everything screwed something up?

Amazon doesn't own or operate the plane.

They contract it out to various cargo airlines. This one was operated by 21Air.

That said, piss poor landing attempt.

No flare until just before touchdown and landed fast and long.

Spoilers and thrust reverses not deployed, at least not right after touchdown. Photos of the wreck show neither deployed on the left wing.

How much was due to the weather, and how much is pilot error will be the NTSB's job to figure out.
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Good discussion and insights here:

https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1511823
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I'm pretty sure the thrust reverses and spoilers won't deploy until weight on wheel indication. So what that left side still floating above the runway those won't come out.
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akaggie05 said:

Good discussion and insights here:

https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1511823


Great discussion there. Thanks.
One day at a time.
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Kenneth_2003 said:

I'm pretty sure the thrust reverses and spoilers won't deploy until weight on wheel indication. So what that left side still floating above the runway those won't come out.

True, and I guess its possible they didn't get the left gear down until the end so no chance to deploy.

If that's the case, then the pilots will have some hard questions to answer.
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Looks like a pretty bad thunderstorm in the background in that clip of the plane landing. Could it be some sort of microburst situation?
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Sad.
If you don't have anything nice to say about anybody, come sit by me.
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Aggie Jurist said:

You do realize Amazon doesn't operate the planes, don't you?


Correct. They contract to the cheapest bidder
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HtownAg19 said:

Aggie Jurist said:

You do realize Amazon doesn't operate the planes, don't you?


Correct. They contract to the cheapest bidder

Uh, isn't that how most things work…
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torrid said:

Looks like a pretty bad thunderstorm in the background in that clip of the plane landing. Could it be some sort of microburst situation?


Looks to me like they had a tailwind and floated along without doing a go-around, for whatever reason.
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Secolobo said:

HtownAg19 said:

Aggie Jurist said:

You do realize Amazon doesn't operate the planes, don't you?


Correct. They contract to the cheapest bidder

Uh, isn't that how most things work…


Yes. And when you choose an airline with the reputation of hiring a bunch of pilots that are English second language this is the result
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The carriers have full autonomy.
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TexasAggie_97 said:

Burdizzo said:

Hope everyone is OK


They are not. At least 5 dead and 5 injured


Unfortunately, I did not see that before I posted.
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Why are the only words people say anymore are F*** and S***?
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HtownAg19 said:

Secolobo said:

HtownAg19 said:

Aggie Jurist said:

You do realize Amazon doesn't operate the planes, don't you?


Correct. They contract to the cheapest bidder

Uh, isn't that how most things work…


Yes. And when you choose an airline with the reputation of hiring a bunch of pilots that are English second language this is the result


And there it is
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Rapier108 said:



Why are the only words people say anymore are F*** and S***?

Would you prefer "Great Googly Moogly!" when watching a plane go off the end of the runway?
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Rapier108 said:



Why are the only words people say anymore are F*** and S***?

Why do you care?
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But... Will my package be delayed?
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Is what he is saying truth? I honestly don't know
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Rapier108 said:



Why are the only words people say anymore are F*** and S***?

Because people curse or haven't you noticed. I certainly don't know why they are laughing.
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Aviation YouTubers are now posting their initial analyses.

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fc2112 said:

What, a company that emphasizes the very cheapest of everything screwed something up?
When you realize how stupid that sounds, do you take it down?
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Speed looks too high here, pilots were at fault. Plane didnt seem configured correctly upon landing.

I read that it crossed a road? Were there any fatalities caused by that or was it just the crew?
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Supposedly struck cars
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Wow. New nightmare unlocked.
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Rapier108 said:


No flare until just before touchdown and landed fast and long.




No flare?! That sounds very familiar.
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The parking lot it stopped in APPEARS to be one for, among other businesses, an Amazon warehouse.
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Rapier108 said:



Why are the only words people say anymore are F*** and S***?

Profanity is the linguistic crutch of the inarticulate.
 
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