Why don't Republicans [improve campaign message]?

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In regard to the immigration battle, campaign with the very simple statement that EVERY action they are taking is to make life better for actual Americans and likewise EVERY thing the Dems are fighting for 100% helps non-citizens and takes from the rest of us. What solutions are they proposing to help American citizens? Oh that's right, they aren't.

EVERY additional meal, job, house/shelter, handout, etc, etc, etc that goes to an illegal is taken from one of our own. Our folks who are struggling with any of these need to be reminded every damn day of this fact. Dems couldn't care less about you. They only want to bring in more warm bodies to gain power. You are being used, wake up!!

The Dems are notorious for dividing people and riling them up to get votes. It's about damn time we learn how to play that game and convince the folks about these facts.

Make the message simple, consistent and loud.

ETA: thanks whoever helped w subject line
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Jack Squat 83 said:

In regard to the immigration battle, campaign with the very simple statement that EVERY action they are taking is to make life better for actual Americans and likewise EVERY thing the Dems are fighting for 100% helps non-citizens and takes from the rest of us.

EVERY additional meal, job, house/shelter, handout, etc, etc, etc that goes to an illegal is taken from one of our own. Our folks who are struggling with any of these need to be reminded every damn day of this fact. Dems couldn't care less about you. They only want to bring in more warm bodies to gain power. You are being used, wake up!!

The Dems are notorious for dividing people and riling them up to get votes. It's about damn time we learn how to play that game and convince the folks about these facts.

Make the message simple, consistent and loud.

You know all they'll answer back is "Racist!", "Bigot!", "Homophobe!"
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People of either party only want office so they can steal from you legally.
Anything else you hear coming from their mouth is just to distract you, and lull you into a sense of well being.
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Only one party has actually legalized stealing…
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BigRobSA said:

You know all they'll answer back is "Racist!", "Bigot!", "Homophobe!"


This is what the party of slavery and the KKK who is now salivating over Muslims says? LOL... and???
Chemistry happens and eventually the rocks get opinions...
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GOP messaging on this has been awful even though they have been winning the argument. Trumps handlers were no better in giving him talking points but again he won the argument on this subject. The talking points they need to stick to:

What Biden & Mayorkas were doing was illegal and unconstitutional.

Trump admin. is enforcing long standing laws passed by Congress, no new laws have been passed.

Illegal immigration is costing the US $X Billion per year and $X amount per taxpayer. This needs to be related over and over and over.

Continue to hammer the illegal immigrant crime statistics.
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The vast majority of the party are frightened old men who just want to run out the clock on their cushy government jobs as controlled opposition that don't ever want to make any actual waves or fight back.
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Because nearly 7 out of 10 Americans poll as disapproving of his immigration policies.

In this tight a midterm, GOP strategists are going to avoid the topic altogether.
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Windy City Ag said:

Because nearly 7 out of 10 Americans poll as disapproving of his immigration policies.

In this tight a midterm, GOP strategists are going to avoid the topic altogether.


You wish

The vast majority of Americans want Biden's illegals deported
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Windy City Ag said:

Because nearly 7 out of 10 Americans poll as disapproving of his immigration policies.


100% BS. Trump won the popular vote and I highly doubt even ONE person who voted for him disapproves of the immigration policies, unless you mean not enough deportations…..
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Almost like it's fixed game uniparty that never corrects issues facing middle America...

Just plays nonstop extreme sides of each coin back and forth so that we're too distracted to notice the theft taking place
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Windy City Ag said:

Because nearly 7 out of 10 Americans poll as disapproving of his immigration policies.

In this tight a midterm, GOP strategists are going to avoid the topic altogether.

7 oit of 10 dumbarses who answered a polling question who may or may not be Americans show a majority of Americans don't care if non-Americans take over the Country?

This fiction belongs in a children's book.
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Jarrin Jay said:

Windy City Ag said:

Because nearly 7 out of 10 Americans poll as disapproving of his immigration policies.


100% BS. Trump won the popular vote and I highly doubt even ONE person who voted for him disapproves of the immigration policies, unless you mean not enough deportations…..

Some believe two innocent Americans were killed.

Others understand not to put the lives of law enforcement in danger whilst they are doing their job lest you get extra orifices.
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Jack Squat 83 said:

In regard to the immigration battle, campaign with the very simple statement that EVERY action they are taking is to make life better for actual Americans and likewise EVERY thing the Dems are fighting for 100% helps non-citizens and takes from the rest of us. What solutions are they proposing to help American citizens? Oh that's right, they aren't.

EVERY additional meal, job, house/shelter, handout, etc, etc, etc that goes to an illegal is taken from one of our own. Our folks who are struggling with any of these need to be reminded every damn day of this fact. Dems couldn't care less about you. They only want to bring in more warm bodies to gain power. You are being used, wake up!!

The Dems are notorious for dividing people and riling them up to get votes. It's about damn time we learn how to play that game and convince the folks about these facts.

Make the message simple, consistent and loud.

ETA: thanks whoever helped w subject line


Your screen name is Ironic because that's exactly what Trump has done for regular everyday Americans. Jobs are way down. Gas is way up. Food is way up. We have a new foreign war.

Despite Trump campaigning on the complete opposite
If you're in the top 10% Trump took care of you, but the rest are on their own.
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The Venezuela takedown saved his presidency IMO.

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100% BS. Trump won the popular vote and I highly doubt even ONE person who voted for him disapproves of the immigration policies, unless you mean not enough deportations…..


I think this is what F16 wishes were the case but the national mood has changed a lot since he was elected. My view is that most of the GOP still agrees with aggressive enforcement of illegal immigration laws, but a small amount don't like the tactics employed.

Stepping into the more important independent camp, most surveys show them breaking decisively against his immigration platform.

He seems to have a lost a lot of that diverse coalition that returned him to office. Whether it is the economy or the Iran War or immigration, it is getting nail bitingly tight on keeping congress and I would think any strategist is going to completely avoid topics that upset the voters they need to maintain control.

https://www.hks.harvard.edu/faculty-research/policy-topics/democracy-governance/how-do-americans-feel-about-president-trumps

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Nationally, there's just 31% support for such as deporting undocumented immigrants who work, hold no criminal records, and have lived in the United States for years. Just under half of Republicans support this (49%).

There's also 59% overall national support for birthright citizenship (which, by the Fourteenth Amendment, declares that children born in the United States are citizens), and no state has less than 46% support.
Approval for ICE's enforcement of immigration laws has just 33% approval, with another wide gap. Sixty-nine percent of Republicans approve, compared to 9% of Democrats.

There is 31% support for ICE workplace raids (62% of Republicans, 13% of Democrats).
There is 34% support for using the military to assist with deportations (64% of Republican, 15% of Democrats).




https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-approval-rating-immigration-poll-12384040

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President Donald Trump's handling of immigration has fallen to its weakest position in an Economist/YouGov tracker, a striking reversal on the issue that powered his return to the White House.

Trump's immigration approval fell to 40 percent in August, while 53 percent disapproved, leaving him 13 points underwater among U.S. adult citizens.

The latest result matches the previous all-time low net approval rating (those who approve minus those who disapprove) recorded in May, but its raw 40 percent approval figure is a record low in the series.

Key Points
Trump's net immigration rating has dropped 24 points since February 2025, moving from plus 11 to minus 13 in the Economist/YouGov series.
Other surveys still identify immigration or border security as Trump's best issue, although they also show support weakening.
AP-NORC reported in August that 39 percent of adults approved of his immigration performance, down from 49 percent near the beginning of his second term.

https://www.ap.org/news-highlights/elections/2026/why-immigration-remains-strong-for-trump-among-republicans-according-to-a-new-ap-norc-poll/

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WASHINGTON (AP) Immigration remains a stronger issue for President Donald Trump than the economy or Iran, according to a new AP-NORC poll, even after three people were killed in encounters with Immigration and Customs Enforcement in the span of under a week in July.
Trump is not getting a glowing endorsement on his immigration approach from Americans overall, the new survey from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research found. Only 39% of U.S. adults approve of his performance on immigration, a decline from 49% at the beginning of his second term.


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Its hard to improve the message when the Head of the party has done nothing but hurt the party. When he says he doesnt care how high gas is. Just like today if you don't want you want data centers you want to be backwoods and poor. He is literally attacking the people that got him elected. Just say if you don't support data centers you are white trash.
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I think more midnight AI slop-posting with Natalie will do the trick.
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Windy City Ag said:

Because nearly 7 out of 10 Americans poll as disapproving of his immigration policies.

In this tight a midterm, GOP strategists are going to avoid the topic altogether.


Do those morons place any of the blame on the Biden admin for creating the problem?

Do you think it's fair that the Republicans take the blame for the dirty job required to clean up the mess Democrats made for their own selfish political goals at the expenses of tax paying citizens?

This kind of **** is why you can not be a decent human being and a Democrat voter.
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Bad to no messaging is a superficial problem.

The real problem is lack of results on the economy.

And that is something the Republicans, just like the democrats in the presidential election, can't find a place to hide from.

People see high gas prices, high grocery prices, high insurance prices, high housing costs,etc, every single day.

Trump hasn't delivered for the average American and the party is going to be punished for that in the mid-terms.
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aggieforester05 said:

Windy City Ag said:

Because nearly 7 out of 10 Americans poll as disapproving of his immigration policies.

In this tight a midterm, GOP strategists are going to avoid the topic altogether.


Do those morons place any of the blame on the Biden admin for creating the problem?

Do you think it's fair that the Republicans take the blame for the dirty job required to clean up the mess Democrats made for their own selfish political goals at the expenses of tax paying citizens?

This kind of **** is why you can not be a decent human being and a Democrat voter.


Anyone quoting ap or Newsweek should be ignored
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SA68AG said:

Bad to no messaging is a superficial problem.

The real problem is lack of results on the economy.

And that is something the Republicans, just like the democrats in the presidential election, can't find a place to hide from.

People see high gas prices, high grocery prices, high insurance prices, high housing costs,etc, every single day.

Trump hasn't delivered for the average American and the party is going to be punished for that in the mid-terms.

He should have enacted common-sense price controls and we would not have any problems.

Also, checked investments and decided Trumps economy is doing fine.

We definitely should blame Trump for housing costs. I mean compared to Biden he is done terrible at this.

High grocery prices? Several core staples are cheaper.

And I prefer a nuclear free Iran as it keeps me from impending vaporization by radical Muslims.

Outside of all that, Trump is terrible.

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Equivalent of the Hormuz Letter.
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After 4 years of open borders, we shouldn't have to. If that's what people want, and many do, messaging won't help.
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flown-the-coop said:

SA68AG said:

Bad to no messaging is a superficial problem.

The real problem is lack of results on the economy.

And that is something the Republicans, just like the democrats in the presidential election, can't find a place to hide from.

People see high gas prices, high grocery prices, high insurance prices, high housing costs,etc, every single day.

Trump hasn't delivered for the average American and the party is going to be punished for that in the mid-terms.

He should have enacted common-sense price controls and we would not have any problems.

Also, checked investments and decided Trumps economy is doing fine.

We definitely should blame Trump for housing costs. I mean compared to Biden he is done terrible at this.

High grocery prices? Several core staples are cheaper.

And I prefer a nuclear free Iran as it keeps me from impending vaporization by radical Muslims.

Outside of all that, Trump is terrible.



The average voter could care less about macroeconomic statistics and indicators.

And whether or not Trump should be held accountable or not is irrelevant, He said he was going to fix things and to the average American he hasn't.

If you're living paycheck to paycheck , every time you fill up your car you're reminded of Trump's promise to bring down the price of gas.
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SA68AG said:

flown-the-coop said:

SA68AG said:

Bad to no messaging is a superficial problem.

The real problem is lack of results on the economy.

And that is something the Republicans, just like the democrats in the presidential election, can't find a place to hide from.

People see high gas prices, high grocery prices, high insurance prices, high housing costs,etc, every single day.

Trump hasn't delivered for the average American and the party is going to be punished for that in the mid-terms.

He should have enacted common-sense price controls and we would not have any problems.

Also, checked investments and decided Trumps economy is doing fine.

We definitely should blame Trump for housing costs. I mean compared to Biden he is done terrible at this.

High grocery prices? Several core staples are cheaper.

And I prefer a nuclear free Iran as it keeps me from impending vaporization by radical Muslims.

Outside of all that, Trump is terrible.

The average voter could care less about macroeconomic statistics and indicators.

And whether or not Trump should be held accountable or not is irrelevant, He said he was going to fix things and to the average American he hasn't.

If you're living paycheck to paycheck , every time you fill up your car you're reminded of Trump's promise to bring down the price of gas.


If you are living check to check and now afford a modest uptick in gas after the last few months then voting communist is in your best interest.

He fixed the border. He fixed Venezuela. He fixed our energy independence (again). He fixed Irans nuclear program. He fixed US AID. He fixed DEI. He fixed drug prices.

But yea, he ain't done ***** Comical.
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Make the message simple, consistent and loud.

"We've given them everything they asked for. $40tn in debt and nothing to show for it. Elect Dems if you want more of it".
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the median american signed up for a closed border and deporting violent criminals; they didn't sign up for feds gunning down protesters and stephen miller style ethno-nationalism.

trump and republicans burned the goodwill they earned (and then some) with the former by doing the latter, and now it's a loser of an issue to campaign on.
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You should let them know.
Maybe they will.
If you don't have anything nice to say about anybody, come sit by me.
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Old McDonald said:

the median american signed up for a closed border and deporting violent criminals; they didn't sign up for feds gunning down protesters and stephen miller style ethno-nationalism.

trump and republicans burned the goodwill they earned (and then some) with the former by doing the latter, and now it's a loser of an issue to campaign on.

Ethno-nationalism? What does that mean and how does it apply to Stephen Miller?

And do you normally protest why kicking cop cars and fighting with LEOs whilst possessing a deadly weapon… at a protest? Do you also protest by trying to run people over?

Fact lives matter.
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flown-the-coop said:

SA68AG said:

flown-the-coop said:

SA68AG said:

Bad to no messaging is a superficial problem.

The real problem is lack of results on the economy.

And that is something the Republicans, just like the democrats in the presidential election, can't find a place to hide from.

People see high gas prices, high grocery prices, high insurance prices, high housing costs,etc, every single day.

Trump hasn't delivered for the average American and the party is going to be punished for that in the mid-terms.

He should have enacted common-sense price controls and we would not have any problems.

Also, checked investments and decided Trumps economy is doing fine.

We definitely should blame Trump for housing costs. I mean compared to Biden he is done terrible at this.

High grocery prices? Several core staples are cheaper.

And I prefer a nuclear free Iran as it keeps me from impending vaporization by radical Muslims.

Outside of all that, Trump is terrible.

The average voter could care less about macroeconomic statistics and indicators.

And whether or not Trump should be held accountable or not is irrelevant, He said he was going to fix things and to the average American he hasn't.

If you're living paycheck to paycheck , every time you fill up your car you're reminded of Trump's promise to bring down the price of gas.


If you are living check to check and now afford a modest uptick in gas after the last few months then voting communist is in your best interest.

He fixed the border. He fixed Venezuela. He fixed our energy independence (again). He fixed Irans nuclear program. He fixed US AID. He fixed DEI. He fixed drug prices.

But yea, he ain't done ***** Comical.

You're absolutely right. He has done all of those things and more. But the media will never point those thing out

But it's ****ing comical that you think the public is going to recognize all those things if gasoline is still $4,00 a gallon and the Iran war is still dragging on, when they step into the voting booth in November.

If Trump and the Republicans continue to use the same stupid strategy Biden and the dims used of telling people how great things are, the Republicans are going to suffer the same results.

The Republicans better start showing some empathy and offer real plans of what they plan to do if they want to regain the momentum they had after Trump was elected.




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What real plans do you want for gas prices? Trump to give in to Iran? Put smiling peace sign Madura back in charge of VZ?

The action on Iran was a must. And if it costs the midterms then so be it. It had to be done and thank god Trump understood this and acted in the interest of America.

At best… at best the Dems may eke out a small majority in the House. The Senate is not happening despite what the TFreakos think and wish for.

Trump will have a majority senate with 2 less RINOs and a couple of additional seats from Michigan and another state.

That gives us appointments and non-starter on "impeachments". Not a bad outcome for a midterm with headwinds because you out the future of America over that midterm election.
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Jack Squat 83 said:

In regard to the immigration battle, campaign with the very simple statement that EVERY action they are taking is to make life better for actual Americans and likewise EVERY thing the Dems are fighting for 100% helps non-citizens and takes from the rest of us. What solutions are they proposing to help American citizens? Oh that's right, they aren't.

EVERY additional meal, job, house/shelter, handout, etc, etc, etc that goes to an illegal is taken from one of our own. Our folks who are struggling with any of these need to be reminded every damn day of this fact. Dems couldn't care less about you. They only want to bring in more warm bodies to gain power. You are being used, wake up!!

The Dems are notorious for dividing people and riling them up to get votes. It's about damn time we learn how to play that game and convince the folks about these facts.

Make the message simple, consistent and loud.

ETA: thanks whoever helped w subject line

They merely need to say there doing the exact same thing Obama did.
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The vast majority of Americans want all illegals with felony convictions deported. What we don't agree with is deporting hard working law immigrants who are playing by all the other rules.

We also disagree with deporting the children of illegals who have grown up as Americans and have never known any other country.

We also disagree with arresting folks at their regular immigration check-ins or at the courthouse waiting for a hearing.

If you want to deport the felony criminals, fine. But if someone is here working hard, raising a family, and contributing positively to the nation, what's the hurry in kicking them out?
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