Tramp96 said:

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YouBet said:

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Can we bomb Minneapolis and any other community where they are gathered?

Half joking.

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I'm fine just trading Minnesota to Canada in exchange for British Columbia.

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Ogre09 said:

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Tramp96 said:

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YouBet said:

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Can we bomb Minneapolis and any other community where they are gathered?

Half joking.

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I'm fine just trading Minnesota to Canada in exchange for British Columbia.

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No, we want Alberta.

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Tramp96 said:

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Ogre09 said:

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Tramp96 said:

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YouBet said:

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Can we bomb Minneapolis and any other community where they are gathered?

Half joking.

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I'm fine just trading Minnesota to Canada in exchange for British Columbia.

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No, we want Alberta.

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Why not both?

I admit my motivation for BC is Whistler and Victoria/Vancouver Island. One of my favorite places.

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EMY92 said:

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I don't think the school processes the financial aid applications, that's the federal government.

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fc2112 said:

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Estimates are that a full THIRD of all junior college applicants are fraudulent. Enroll, scam the aid money, and disappear.

It's almost as if - somehow - Minnesota imported an entire community that idolizes and encourages fraud as a way of life. So weird. Must be a bunch of Lutheran's.

https://www.americanexperiment.org/the-fraud-in-minnesota-higher-education

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Reporting by KSTP found that the threat of these "ghost" students criminal actors who use stolen or fake identities to enroll in online courses at colleges and universities to steal federal financial aid has "become so prevalent at Minnesota's largest community college that administrators now say nearly a third of all applications to the school are potentially fraudulent."

Normandale Community College in Bloomington has processed about 29,000 fraudulent or potentially fraudulent applications over the last few years, according to Dara Hagen, vice president of Student Affairs. "We were seeing probably 42 percent of our applications or so being fraudulent, and now we're down to about 31 percent." The college told KSTP that those applications were "flagged for further review before any student aid was disbursed."

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Victimless crime? Not so much.

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Jacob Rosenbacher, age 32, has experienced this firsthand. His name and personal information were used to enroll at Normandale and obtain a federal student loan of about $9,000. The Chicago resident told KSTP that he had never heard of Normandale or Bloomington, Minn.

"My credit dropped 168 points overnight. And what Normandale, in my view, didn't do is they didn't check my identity against anything. That's all they would have had to do. They would have had to just Google me."

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FTAG 2000 said:

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If it weren't for blue state and congressional fraud, that national debt would be zero

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We could start by saying let's get government aid out of college but I know that isn't happening. Since we can't do that, go back to the days where the aid was paid directly to the schools and only covered expenses paid to the school.

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Kansas Kid said:

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We could start by saying let's get government aid out of college but I know that isn't happening. Since we can't do that, go back to the days where the aid was paid directly to the schools and only covered expenses paid to the school. None of this block grants where this fraud can occur. It would have a side benefit of the legitimate students not getting money that allows them to stay in high end apartments and private dorms, drink Starbucks 3 times a day, and end up with a lot larger debt from college then it should have been.

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Tramp96 said:

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Kansas Kid said:

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We could start by saying let's get government aid out of college but I know that isn't happening. Since we can't do that, go back to the days where the aid was paid directly to the schools and only covered expenses paid to the school. None of this block grants where this fraud can occur. It would have a side benefit of the legitimate students not getting money that allows them to stay in high end apartments and private dorms, drink Starbucks 3 times a day, and end up with a lot larger debt from college then it should have been.

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Hell, model the aid after the VA Post-911 GI Bill.

VA pays the tuition and fees directly to the school. If student drops a class or withdraws, the school has to payback the VA and then they have to recoup the money from the student.

Housing and living expenses are paid to the student, but it's very basic and pro-rated to their enrollment status (full-time, part-time). It's also based on the zip code of the school or the student, can't remember which.

It's a much more locked down, tighter process, than the federal loan program.

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The school ultimately decides to award the aid. The school is responsible for the verification process and for ensuring they've done their due diligence to verify the student is eligible to enroll and receive aid.

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YouBet said:

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Tramp96 said:

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Ogre09 said:

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Tramp96 said:

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YouBet said:

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Can we bomb Minneapolis and any other community where they are gathered?

Half joking.

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I'm fine just trading Minnesota to Canada in exchange for British Columbia.

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No, we want Alberta.

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Why not both?

I admit my motivation for BC is Whistler and Victoria/Vancouver Island. One of my favorite places.

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Tons of Muslims in BC now,

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fc2112 said:

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Estimates are that a full THIRD of all junior college applicants are fraudulent. Enroll, scam the aid money, and disappear.

It's almost as if - somehow - Minnesota imported an entire community that idolizes and encourages fraud as a way of life. So weird. Must be a bunch of Lutheran's.

https://www.americanexperiment.org/the-fraud-in-minnesota-higher-education

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Reporting by KSTP found that the threat of these "ghost" students criminal actors who use stolen or fake identities to enroll in online courses at colleges and universities to steal federal financial aid has "become so prevalent at Minnesota's largest community college that administrators now say nearly a third of all applications to the school are potentially fraudulent."

Normandale Community College in Bloomington has processed about 29,000 fraudulent or potentially fraudulent applications over the last few years, according to Dara Hagen, vice president of Student Affairs. "We were seeing probably 42 percent of our applications or so being fraudulent, and now we're down to about 31 percent." The college told KSTP that those applications were "flagged for further review before any student aid was disbursed."

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Victimless crime? Not so much.

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Jacob Rosenbacher, age 32, has experienced this firsthand. His name and personal information were used to enroll at Normandale and obtain a federal student loan of about $9,000. The Chicago resident told KSTP that he had never heard of Normandale or Bloomington, Minn.

"My credit dropped 168 points overnight. And what Normandale, in my view, didn't do is they didn't check my identity against anything. That's all they would have had to do. They would have had to just Google me."

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