California HS head coach fired after injuring a player in practice

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Bazooka Joe said:

HalifaxAg said:

Cup?


You know how you can tell me you've never played football without telling me you never played football?



You know how you can tell me you have no balls without telling me you have no balls?

Males need cups.
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TRX said:

Bazooka Joe said:

HalifaxAg said:

Cup?


You know how you can tell me you've never played football without telling me you never played football?


You know how you can tell me you have no balls without telling me you have no balls?

Males need cups.


You know most MLB players except for catchers, even college and HS baseball players these days don't wear cups either.

Nobody wears a cup in football.
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K.

Don't cry when you get injured then.
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I agree that the district made the right choice to fire him because he didn't go over to the player that was hit in the groin and injured.
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Catchers and hockey players. That's it for cups.
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While he shouldn't have done that and clearly no way he aimed for his twig and berries, this generation of kids are massive *******. Coaches did much worse than this on the daily in the 80's and before that.
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Logos Stick said:

HaroldShipmanAg said:

news flash we don't' live in the 70s, 80, or 90s... Also, if I am the parent I'm civilly suing the school and coach for a nice pay day.


suing?!

Yep, we for sure don't in live in the 70s, 80s, or 90s anymore. Those decades were peak America. Its been downhill ever since!

Best ever decades.
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What would have happened to Teacher Wife '82 or The Wife had they clobbered a kid with a science or math textbook after failing something that really matters?

Can his ass.
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HaroldShipmanAg said:

news flash we don't' live in the 70s, 80, or 90s...


Yeah, I'm reminded every day of how much this world sucks now.
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Our hs coach after a loss threw his metal clipboard across the room while watching film. Hit a player. Nothing ever said or done about it.
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Bad bounce

If he's a winning coach he'll have another opportunity soon
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I've never been hit by a football once in my entire life hard enough to cause a serious injury. I've jammed a few fingers and had to walk off a couple of groin hits but I can't see a football as a serious threat of harm. If he lined up on the kid deliberately then that I would be a problem but an unintentional hit with a ball that just happened to hit where it can hurt a bit more doesn't seem intentionally malicious or particularly dangerously reckless
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That kid is lucky Peter Brady wasn't the coach.

Detmersdislocatedshoulder
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My high school coach got fired for punching our qb in the locker room at halftime of a game.


True story.
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MouthBQ98 said:

I've never been hit by a football once in my entire life hard enough to cause a serious injury. I've jammed a few fingers and had to walk off a couple of groin hits but I can't see a football as a serious threat of harm. If he lined up on the kid deliberately then that I would be a problem but an unintentional hit with a ball that just happened to hit where it can hurt a bit more doesn't seem intentionally malicious or particularly dangerously reckless

The fact that you think he was fired merely for kicking the ball shows you're not paying attention.
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Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

My high school coach got fired for punching our qb in the locker room at halftime of a game.


True story.

Your HS coach thought he was Woody Hayes?
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Good. He should be fired. I agree with the OP. It was clearly an accident but it was due to poor emotional control. If you can't manage your emotions then you are a poor leader and it's not going translate well to anything good anyway.

And yeah, probably could have saved his job by tending to the player he just injured. He not only hurt his own guy. He watched him for 2 seconds in agony while deciding to walk away. He's a **** bag and probably has a history of outbursts or possibly a domestic violence episode or two.
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HalifaxAg said:

Cup?

Baseball
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I used to have a coach who'd flick his cigarette at us when he got pissed.

He was a great coach though. Best I ever had.

That said...this was highly unprofessional. I can see why he was let go. Hard to justify losing your temper and kicking a ball into a players nuts.
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The number of people on here who experienced abuse and then protect their abusers is telling.
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Does anyone think if it was reversed and the player kicked the ball into the coach that he wouldn't be off the team?

Depending on the school district, he would also be suspended (he should always be suspended but we know some school admins don't have the back of their teachers).
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Obligatory...


Them boys is having the time of their lives
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Coach thought he was Bud Kilmer.

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MouthBQ98 said:

I've never been hit by a football once in my entire life hard enough to cause a serious injury. I've jammed a few fingers and had to walk off a couple of groin hits but I can't see a football as a serious threat of harm. If he lined up on the kid deliberately then that I would be a problem but an unintentional hit with a ball that just happened to hit where it can hurt a bit more doesn't seem intentionally malicious or particularly dangerously reckless

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I think a lot of the older guys on here define abuse differently. Or they at least learned how to deal with abuse differently. The thought process is that learning to deal with adversity, and abuse, prepares you for the real world. Football happens to be the pinnacle of life preparation. You get knocked down, you get up. You get beat, you keep playing. You do what you don't want to do. You get abused and you deal with it.

Or they're in denial, and refuse to characterize what happened to them as abuse. Admitting you experienced abuse is also admitting you are a victim of abuse, and very few men are going to admit they are a victim, especially if part of their personal identity is rough tough former HS football player who walked uphill both ways to school in the snow with feet wrapped in barbwire.

Never forget that it took the US gymnastics team testifying about Larry Nassar's sexual abuse for former Ohio State athletes to recognize that what Richard Strauss did to them for decades was sexual abuse. These were football players, wrestlers, basketball players, lacrosse players, men easily strong enough to tie Strauss into a pretzel if they wanted to. Why was he able to abuse them for so long? Because he was an authority figure, and classified the abuse as 'medical treatment'. Anyone who spoke up was dismissed as weak-minded and lacking in mental toughness. Admitting what Strauss did was abuse meant getting all of these rough, tough grown men to admit they were victims of sexual assault, and good luck with that. Easier to classify a guy as 'creepy' than to admit you were a rape victim because you went in for a strained ligament and he jammed a finger up inside of you.

Nassar called it medical treatment, and it was sexual assault. Strauss called it medical treatment, and it was sexual assault. They were both able to get away with it for so long because they were protected by their title and their authority.

Some head coaches subject their players to physical abuse, and it is easier to classify that as 'hard coaching' than admit to yourself you were a victim.

I'm not saying this current generation isn't soft (there are plenty examples they are), I'm just pointing out how easy it is for people to dismiss what happened to them because it allows them to ignore an ugly truth.
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Enrico Pallazzo said:

A shot to the balls is never not funny, unless it's your balls.

And sometimes even then.

I remember one time I slid down a volleyball pole and racked myself on the eye where they hook the net to the pole. I immediately fell to the ground rolling around in pain, but I was still laughing at myself. Of course, I was about 14, so I had that 7th grade sense of humor going strong.
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GaryClare said:

Backyard Gator said:

The number of people on here who experienced abuse and then protect their abusers is telling.

I think a lot of the older guys on here define abuse differently. Or they at least learned how to deal with abuse differently. The thought process is that learning to deal with adversity, and abuse, prepares you for the real world. Football happens to be the pinnacle of life preparation. You get knocked down, you get up. You get beat, you keep playing. You do what you don't want to do. You get abused and you deal with it.

Can it go too far? Yes. But really, did that guy go too far? A lot of guys on here kind of laughed about this situation. And they are the ones laughing about this type of thing that happened to them 30 years ago. They are drinking a beer with their buddies at the 19th hole and laughing - "Remember when I was stupid and Coach kicked a ball and hit me in the junk?"

I'm certainly not a tough guy but there are a lot of soft people in the younger generation. And soft people don't do as well in the real world. And I see it every day. Sometimes you just have to deal with a bad boss and you can't just get offended and run to HR every time you have an issue. The examples are endless. And then we have to listen to all of these whiners talk about "how life isn't fair".

So it isn't exactly "protecting their abusers".




Very well said. Most of us olds would likely run through a brick wall for those tough "abusive" coaches who prepared us for battle and life.

There are limits obviously, but the victim mentality and wussification of American males can't be denied. Lord help us if the draft was ever required again to defend our country.
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3-7 Record, last season. Yep, he deserved to be fire.
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Rex Racer said:

Enrico Pallazzo said:

A shot to the balls is never not funny, unless it's your balls.

And sometimes even then.

I remember one time I slid down a volleyball pole and racked myself on the eye where they hook the net to the pole. I immediately fell to the ground rolling around in pain, but I was still laughing at myself. Of course, I was about 14, so I had that 7th grade sense of humor going strong.

Worst I ever took was doing speed training.

These days athletes do over-speed training on treadmills where they have a spotter and the treadmill is dialed up to a speed a little bit faster than the athlete can usually sprint and they're forced to move faster to keep up.

The cheap version of this in the 90's was a chest harness with some huge ass bungee cords that clipped to the harness and were then anchored to a fixed point. You'd back up a far enough distance (in this case about 50 yards) to really stretch the bungee cords and they would pull you faster than you could normally run. Well, one day I had been doing sprints like this on the football field and I'm backed off about to do my last sprint when the bungee cord snapped at the anchor point and came shooting back at me at an extremely high rate of speed. Fortunately it hit my inner thigh first but it ricocheted into my junk. I had no chance to dodge and the cord was harnessed to my chest so it would have followed me anyway. Dropped me to the ground. Fortunately, no lasting damage but I spent a day or so with an ice pack on my balls.
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YouBet said:

Bull Meachem said:

There would be no reason to keep the coach after this. Grow up and act like an adult.

Every coach in the 70s, 80s and into 90s would have to be fired for things worse than this.


I never had a coach kick a football into my stomach or nuts.
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Logos Stick said:

HaroldShipmanAg said:

news flash we don't' live in the 70s, 80, or 90s... Also, if I am the parent I'm civilly suing the school and coach for a nice pay day.


suing?!

Yep, we for sure don't in live in the 70s, 80s, or 90s anymore. Those decades were peak America. Its been downhill ever since!

America is going downhill because coaches can't assault kids anymore
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Muy said:

YouBet said:

Bull Meachem said:

There would be no reason to keep the coach after this. Grow up and act like an adult.

Every coach in the 70s, 80s and into 90s would have to be fired for things worse than this.


I never had a coach kick a football into my stomach or nuts.


I had one, more than one, throw them at my head to see if there was anything there. Granted I had a helmet on each time.



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One of the head coach's most important jobs is to model control over one's emotions for his players. It's an intense and violent game - such that it's very hard to control your emotions. If a head coach cannot model that behavior, he needs to be doing something else.
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Muy said:

YouBet said:

Bull Meachem said:

There would be no reason to keep the coach after this. Grow up and act like an adult.

Every coach in the 70s, 80s and into 90s would have to be fired for things worse than this.


I never had a coach kick a football into my stomach or nuts.


My only point was just what I said....whole lotta coaches back then would be fired for equal or worse things. Since I posted that we've seen multiple examples of this.

I wasn't condoning it.
 
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