We are ruled by 535 people.

And a majority of them fail at item 1. Can't even get to the rest of them. 90% fail at item 1.

So....what's next?

Slicer97 said:

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I've got a great idea for all members of Congress:

term limits

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Congress is the foundation for all of the problems in this country. Definitely needs an enema and complete restructuring.

Too bad that our politicians and leaders have their own five point plan.

1. Take control
2. Spend your money
3. Steal your money
4. Screw the people.
5. Keep control

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BadMoonRisin said:

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We are ruled by 535 people.

And a majority of them fail at item 1. Can't even get to the rest of them. 90% fail at item 1.

So....what's next?

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False. There are around 1500 federal district court judges today. Many of those are the real tyrants. They should have to be re-confirmed every 5 years imho.

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Yet federal judges are nominated by the president and require a majority vote for confirmation by the Senate. Congress holds the power. Those 535 people run this country. They are the entire problem. Their party line politics and corruption are destroying America.

BadMoonRisin said:

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We are ruled by 535 people.

And a majority of them fail at item 1. Can't even get to the rest of them. 90% fail at item 1.

So....what's next?

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Almost all our bought by lobbyists almost all our bought by foreign countries interest. The lobbyists money is bad but better then foreign countries buying our politicians and we ended up with policies that help other countries and not Americans. That not even addressing the foreign aid money that's sent abroad goes thru lots of hands and comes back to goverment officials family or some shell company they have a part of.

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BadMoonRisin said:

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We are ruled by 535 people.

And a majority of them fail at item 1.

So....what's next?

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And almost all of them are liberal, the degree of which being the only variant.

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And almost all of them are in politics for their own self betterment.

You nailed it! Congressional bribery is legal. It's called campaign contributions. Politicians want the money and donors want the access, legislation favorable to them and our system to work for them….whether it's companies wanting cheap foreign labor or China itself wanting to steal our technology or drug companies wanting freedom from lawsuits for hurried vaccines. The fact these policies are bad for their voters and their states and America is a secondary concern. The politicians are selling us out and they have made it legal for them to do so!

LOYAL AG said:

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You're approaching this from entirely the wrong perspective. As the saying goes, it ain't the player it's the game. We created a world where you CAN have a career in elected office and we're surprised people choose that career. Then we created a world where their votes are for sale and we're surprised they sell their votes. Then we gave them power and control far beyond what any government official should have and we're surprised they crave more of it.

Nothing changes unless we have a serious discussion about repealing the 17th Amendment. Return control of the Senate to the states. From there we can talk about things like term limits and ending congressional pensions.

None of the above will address the problem of the overbearing bureaucracy but that's not what this thread is about.

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Great post.

I would also like to mention that it's August 22nd and a sitting Senator from the state of Kentucky hasn't been publicly seen in 69 days (nice), but evidently his "office" has been running just fine. It makes you question everything about our government and who really runs the day-to-day business. It appears that even the people that we vote for are having their heads turned to real issues by their staffers. How many RINOs, as we call them, are actually just having their governmental decisions and votes guided by young, ret@rded staffers. Almost all of the hold outs for the SAVE act (on the R side anyway, D's are just ideologically opposed to trying to fix crooked elections, for quite obvious reasons - they would never win in fair elections because their ideas are dog****) are elderly career politicians that probably don't do much on a day-to-day basis except for plan on how they can keep their seat. The rest of their job is probably the 4th or 5th priority.

WHERE IS MITCH McCONNEL?

Slicer97 said:

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I've got a great idea for all members of Congress:

term limits

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Amen!

Stop voting for incumbents..

Slicer97 said:

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I've got a great idea for all members of Congress:

term limits

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Worst idea ever.

You can't allow waves of populism to come in and have massive turnover & changes.

A lack of term limits leads to slow turnover at any given point.

The American public is 60% ******ed. I don't have that kind of faith in my fellow Americans to not have any jerk reactions.

Major Dick Winters from Band of Brothers 10 Rules of Leadership:

1. Strive to be a leader of character, competence, and courage.

2. Lead from the front. Say "Follow me!" and then lead the way.

3. Stay in top physical shape physical stamina is the root of mental toughness.

4. Develop your team. If you know your people, are fair in setting realistic goals and expectations, and lead by example, you will develop teamwork.

5. Delegate responsibility to your subordinates and let them do their jobs. You can't do a good job if you don't have a chance to use your imagination or your creativity.

6. Anticipate problems and prepare to overcome obstacles. Don't wait until you get to the top of the ridge and then make up your mind.

7. Remain humble. Don't worry about who receives the credit. Never let power or authority go to your head.

8. Take a moment of self-reflection. Look at yourself in the mirror every night and ask yourself if you did your best.

9. True satisfaction comes from getting the job done. The key to a successful leader is to earn respect not because of rank or position, but because you are a leader of character.

10. Hang Tough! Never, ever, give up.

Does anyone here have any criticism of these principles?

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Stop voting for incumbents..

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Stop voting for career politicians in general. I think that's why most of us voted for Trump.

I voted for Trump - boy was I wrong
I thought he was different.

LOYAL AG said:

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You're approaching this from entirely the wrong perspective. As the saying goes, it ain't the player it's the game. We created a world where you CAN have a career in elected office and we're surprised people choose that career. Then we created a world where their votes are for sale and we're surprised they sell their votes. Then we gave them power and control far beyond what any government official should have and we're surprised they crave more of it.

Nothing changes unless we have a serious discussion about repealing the 17th Amendment. Return control of the Senate to the states. From there we can talk about things like term limits and ending congressional pensions.

None of the above will address the problem of the overbearing bureaucracy but that's not what this thread is about.

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well said

yippee2 said:

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I voted for Trump - boy was I wrong
I thought he was different.

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you think it would be better with finger-puppet Kamala? If so, please go on. I'd like to hear this.

yippee2 said:

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I voted for Trump - boy was I wrong
I thought he was different.

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If you thought a trust fund baby democrat from New York City who was gifted $200M in cash and NYC real estate in the 70s, cheated on all three of his wives with hookers and porn stars, bankrupted four casinos, and was known more for his tv game show than his business acumen was going to make America great again, I question your judgment.

Aggie Dad Sip said:

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yippee2 said:

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I voted for Trump - boy was I wrong
I thought he was different.

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If you thought a trust fund baby democrat from New York City who was gifted $200M in cash and NYC real estate in the 70s, cheated on all three of his wives with hookers and porn stars, bankrupted four casinos, and was known more for his tv game show than his business acumen was going to make America great again, I question your judgment.

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Should we just open our borders again and let Islam take over? I think most of us don't give a sht about your opinion on our judgement.

Aggie Dad Sip said:

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yippee2 said:

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I voted for Trump - boy was I wrong
I thought he was different.

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If you thought a trust fund baby democrat from New York City who was gifted $200M in cash and NYC real estate in the 70s, cheated on all three of his wives with hookers and porn stars, bankrupted four casinos, and was known more for his tv game show than his business acumen was going to make America great again, I question your judgment.

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I, unfortunately, had to vote for him (first time I've ever voted for a liberal) because Harris was just that ****ing stupid and progressive and the Libertarian was equally bad. The GOP foisted Trump on us.

America has always been great, we don't need the "Again" aspect to it. But, for all of his foibles and old-school NY liberal tendencies, he's not a progressive like the Dems and actually does love America. Also unlike progressive libs.

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Aggie Dad Sip said:

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yippee2 said:

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I voted for Trump - boy was I wrong
I thought he was different.

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If you thought a trust fund baby democrat from New York City who was gifted $200M in cash and NYC real estate in the 70s, cheated on all three of his wives with hookers and porn stars, bankrupted four casinos, and was known more for his tv game show than his business acumen was going to make America great again, I question your judgment.

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Should we just open our borders again and let Islam take over? I think most of us don't give a sht about your opinion on our judgement.

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Check my post from 6:57 pm where I quote the 10 principles of leadership from one of the most well respected leaders of WW2. Tell me how many of those principles our current administration adheres to.

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yippee2 said:

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I voted for Trump - boy was I wrong
I thought he was different.

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you think it would be better with finger-puppet Kamala? If so, please go on. I'd like to hear this.

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I would never vote democratic
My point is how disappointed I am in his presidency

BigRobSA said:

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Aggie Dad Sip said:

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yippee2 said:

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I voted for Trump - boy was I wrong
I thought he was different.

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If you thought a trust fund baby democrat from New York City who was gifted $200M in cash and NYC real estate in the 70s, cheated on all three of his wives with hookers and porn stars, bankrupted four casinos, and was known more for his tv game show than his business acumen was going to make America great again, I question your judgment.

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I, unfortunately, had to vote for him (first time I've ever voted for a liberal) because Harris was just that ****ing stupid and progressive and the Libertarian was equally bad. The GOP foisted Trump on us.

America has always been great, we don't need the "Again" aspect to it. But, for all of his foibles and old-school NY liberal tendencies, he's not a progressive like the Dems and actually does love America. Also unlike progressive libs.

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I respect your honesty. However, in my opinion, Donald Trump doesn't love anything but Donald Trump. Had he decided that running as a democrat would have served his purpose, he would have done it. Instead, he ran as a republican. Although your loyalty is firmly with him, he doesn't give a rat's backside about you. He's turned the presidency into $2B dollars. That's what he cares about.

Aggie Dad Sip said:

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BigRobSA said:

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Aggie Dad Sip said:

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yippee2 said:

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I voted for Trump - boy was I wrong
I thought he was different.

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If you thought a trust fund baby democrat from New York City who was gifted $200M in cash and NYC real estate in the 70s, cheated on all three of his wives with hookers and porn stars, bankrupted four casinos, and was known more for his tv game show than his business acumen was going to make America great again, I question your judgment.

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I, unfortunately, had to vote for him (first time I've ever voted for a liberal) because Harris was just that ****ing stupid and progressive and the Libertarian was equally bad. The GOP foisted Trump on us.

America has always been great, we don't need the "Again" aspect to it. But, for all of his foibles and old-school NY liberal tendencies, he's not a progressive like the Dems and actually does love America. Also unlike progressive libs.

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I respect your honesty. However, in my opinion, Donald Trump doesn't love anything but Donald Trump. Had he decided that running as a democrat would have served his purpose, he would have done it. Instead, he ran as a republican. Although your loyalty is firmly with him, he doesn't give a rat's backside about you. He's turned the presidency into $2B dollars. That's what he cares about.

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Ummmm......not this half-breed.

My loyalty is to conservative policy.

He couldn't spell "conservative" if you spotted him "conservativ_".

BigRobSA said:

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Aggie Dad Sip said:

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BigRobSA said:

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Aggie Dad Sip said:

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yippee2 said:

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I voted for Trump - boy was I wrong
I thought he was different.

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If you thought a trust fund baby democrat from New York City who was gifted $200M in cash and NYC real estate in the 70s, cheated on all three of his wives with hookers and porn stars, bankrupted four casinos, and was known more for his tv game show than his business acumen was going to make America great again, I question your judgment.

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I, unfortunately, had to vote for him (first time I've ever voted for a liberal) because Harris was just that ****ing stupid and progressive and the Libertarian was equally bad. The GOP foisted Trump on us.

America has always been great, we don't need the "Again" aspect to it. But, for all of his foibles and old-school NY liberal tendencies, he's not a progressive like the Dems and actually does love America. Also unlike progressive libs.

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I respect your honesty. However, in my opinion, Donald Trump doesn't love anything but Donald Trump. Had he decided that running as a democrat would have served his purpose, he would have done it. Instead, he ran as a republican. Although your loyalty is firmly with him, he doesn't give a rat's backside about you. He's turned the presidency into $2B dollars. That's what he cares about.

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Ummmm......not this half-breed.

My loyalty is to conservative policy.

He couldn't spell "conservative" if you spotted him "conservativ_".

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Word up.

Slicer97 said:

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I've got a great idea for all members of Congress:

term limits

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Say it with your chest!!!! Solves a lot of problems.

Politicians are a personality type who, unfortunately, are nothing like your descriptions.

Replace them all with ai.

Aggie Dad Sip said:

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yippee2 said:

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I voted for Trump - boy was I wrong
I thought he was different.

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If you thought a trust fund baby democrat from New York City who was gifted $200M in cash and NYC real estate in the 70s, cheated on all three of his wives with hookers and porn stars, bankrupted four casinos, and was known more for his tv game show than his business acumen was going to make America great again, I question your judgment.

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Trump has owned over 500 businesses and six have gone bankrupt. That's a failure rate significantly lower than the business world writ large where over where half of all businesses fail within five years. There's a reason that, in the absurd legal case about him inflating asset values and defrauding banks, the banks testified they would do business with him again. His businesses have been an extremely good bet for his banking partners.

Trump turned that $200m portfolio into $4 billion. We could all hope to do so well in our careers. And he was an iconic figure long before the TV show. I personally think he's a clown but that doesn't change my respect for what he's built as a businessman.

Never gonna happen. I refer you to Animal Farm.