Good news, trans folks can serve in the military

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1:21p, 6/1/26
IMO, trans is a mental illness and people with a mental illness should not be able to serve in the military. I know there are many mental illnesses that are disqualifying.

I'm not saying trans people cant work and earn a living and live whatever life they want, but the military should be off limits.

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From Judge Roger Wilkins who wrote the majority opinion: "The Hegseth policy is both arbitrary and based upon animus, and for those reasons the Policy violates Plaintiff-Appellees' constitutional right to equal protection of the law."



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1:22p, 6/1/26
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Just eliminate all health requirements. Everyone can play dress up!
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1:22p, 6/1/26

Any chance it is appealed to the Supreme Court?
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1:23p, 6/1/26
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This is why China is so willing to play the long game
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1:25p, 6/1/26
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Progressives trying their best to dismantle the world's best fighting force
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1:26p, 6/1/26
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So all mental conditions can serve, right? People that can't pass the physical requirements? Who can be excluded?
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1:28p, 6/1/26
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Just when you think you can't have a greater dislike for leftist judges …
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In reply to Funky Winkerbean • 1:28p, 6/1/26
Funky Winkerbean said:
So all mental conditions can serve, right? People that can't pass the physical requirements? Who can be excluded?


They will cherry pick some leftwing shrink and studies to claim its normal and not an illness. Disregard the fact that up until 4 years ago, its never been considered normal since man started walking the earth.
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1:31p, 6/1/26
Mentally ill people shouldn't own guns ... so instead we give them guns and training? This will end poorly
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1:31p, 6/1/26
Robert L. Wilkins (not Roger) is an Obama appointee and the odds are the other justice is also Democrat appointed.

And I wouldn't trust SCOTUS on this one. Gorsuch is iffy at best on anything trans and how Roberts, Barrett, and Kavanaugh vote often depends on which side of the bed they got out of that morning.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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1:34p, 6/1/26
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All we need now is some "military trained" Trans shooting up schools. Brilliant idea.


We are not a serious country and haven't been in quite awhile.
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In reply to Logos Stick • 1:38p, 6/1/26
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Logos Stick said:
Funky Winkerbean said:
So all mental conditions can serve, right? People that can't pass the physical requirements? Who can be excluded?


They will cherry pick some leftwing shrink and studies to claim its normal and not an illness. Disregard the fact that up until 4 years ago, its never been considered normal since man started walking the earth.

Transgenderism / gender dysmorphia has been studied for well over 100 years and has always been considered a mental illness. There is also an undeniable link to homosexuality, a coping mechanism if you will. Criminal scientists began linking trans to violence in large cities like London and Paris as far back as the late 1800's. In the US, the FBI began studying links between trans and serial killers as early as the 60's (officially).

We're lucky, I guess, that most of the young people identifying as "trans" are not really afflicted with gender dysmorphia (less than 0.5% of the population was the generally agreed rate before trans became a thing).
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In reply to Urban Ag • 1:48p, 6/1/26
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Urban Ag said:
Logos Stick said:
Funky Winkerbean said:
So all mental conditions can serve, right? People that can't pass the physical requirements? Who can be excluded?


They will cherry pick some leftwing shrink and studies to claim its normal and not an illness. Disregard the fact that up until 4 years ago, its never been considered normal since man started walking the earth.

Transgenderism / gender dysmorphia has been studied for well over 100 years and has always been considered a mental illness. There is also an undeniable link to homosexuality, a coping mechanism if you will. Criminal scientists began linking trans to violence in large cities like London and Paris as far back as the late 1800's. In the US, the FBI began studying links between trans and serial killers as early as the 60's (officially).

We're lucky, I guess, that most of the young people identifying as "trans" are not really afflicted with gender dysmorphia (less than 0.5% of the population was the generally agreed rate before trans became a thing).


Yet, somehow, this judge thinks Hegseth's policy is "arbitrary". There is nothing arbitrary about extreme mental illness that results in you cutting off your own sexual organs and trying to reshape them into fake organs of the other gender.

My god.
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1:53p, 6/1/26
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Here's to putting a group of people with above average depression and suicide rates in a job with higher than average depression and suicide rates! What could go wrong?
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1:55p, 6/1/26
I would be all for letting Downers serve, they would make HELLA M240 gunners or ammo bearers.
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1:58p, 6/1/26
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Being Trans limits their ability to be deployed since they might be cutoff from their maintenance drugs.

I believe that Diabetics are also deemed unable to be in the military for the exact same reason.

These judges are nothing but Political Hacks.
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2:01p, 6/1/26
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America has a long and storied history of transgender individuals fighting for our country all over the world….NOT! Can you imagine if George Washington or Abraham Lincoln had to deal with this in their times?
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2:04p, 6/1/26


Stolen from the political tweets thread
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In reply to Logos Stick • 2:13p, 6/1/26
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'Archaic, overbroad generalizations about sex.'


Typical Obama-judge reasoning/feelings in light of facts/recent SCOTUS precedent. This one also won't stand up.
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2:15p, 6/1/26
Whatabout transport crews?
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2:21p, 6/1/26
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People that are affected by dysphoria suffer from high rates of mental illness which means medication, unpredictable behavior, potential reliability and availability problems. This doesn't even go into the scientifically unsupported but ideologically driven "treatment" regimen of major physical alterations that often result in permanent physical disability and high unavailability rates.


The military isn't about making people feel good, or an opportunity to virtue signal or conduct social experiments in policy. It is about being ready to kill people snd break things to preserve our national security and well being. MANY people are physically or mentally not qualified for what it takes to do this effectively for many reasons. That's just the reality of it. Existence isn't fair. It just is.
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2:25p, 6/1/26

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Obama-appointed judge Robert Wilkins and Clinton-appointed judge Judith Rogers ruled against Trump's policy.

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2:30p, 6/1/26
Ignore them. They have no control Over military activities.
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In reply to Logos Stick • 2:32p, 6/1/26
I have zero desire to serve with these mentally deranged freaks. It's already bad enough to serve with fatties who can't pass a pt test.

Add a mentally unstable person who is likely to commit suicide at a 40% rate or get trigger happy on innocent people, and you have a disaster in the making.
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In reply to MouthBQ98 • 3:02p, 6/1/26
MouthBQ98 said:
People that are affected by dysphoria suffer from high rates of mental illness which means medication, unpredictable behavior, potential reliability and availability problems. This doesn't even go into the scientifically unsupported but ideologically driven "treatment" regimen of major physical alterations that often result in permanent physical disability and high unavailability rates.


The military isn't about making people feel good, or an opportunity to virtue signal or conduct social experiments in policy. It is about being ready to kill people snd break things to preserve our national
security and well being. MANY people are physically or mentally not qualified for what it takes to do this effectively for many reasons. That's just the reality of it. Existence isn't fair. It just is.


Excellent take!
But, convincing people in these days of inclusion and everyone gets a trophy that it's best if something is not tried falls on deaf ears but very vocal mouths that get the attention of politicians, media and do gooders.
Look at our special ed laws. Kids that function as 3 years old are put in physics class. Parents are convinced that if kid is put with smart kids, he or she will snap out of it and go to engineering school!
Also, why is Armed Forces expected to cover costs of all this? I can remember all the fatties asked to lose weight or retire or ETS.
Aggie brother had bad knee from Stalling days, height of Nam. Army said sign a waiver and we will let you stay, he said no, they discharged him. Army did not want to pay for surgeries.
Armed Forces is not to give you college money, but to defend our country. The benefits are extras for stepping up and doing a good job. Not showing up and whinning and expecting special treatment.
Wonder if the Infantry instructors at summer camp, still say, "the mission of the infantry is to close with the enemy and kill him before he kills you". Or is that too extreme these days?
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3:17p, 6/1/26
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Just assign them all to latrine duty until they quit
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3:24p, 6/1/26
"This is my rifle

this is my gun"

oh wait....
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In reply to Ag87H2O • 3:46p, 6/1/26
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Ag87H2O said:
Just when you think you can't have a greater dislike for leftist judges …

I'll just say that I have likely a very unhealthy amount of abject hate for leftist judges, eh, leftists overall.
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4:25p, 6/1/26
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Trannies just want to join up for the sniper training. That way next mass shooting they'll have a higher kill rate.
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In reply to Ag87H2O • 4:28p, 6/1/26
Ag87H2O said:
Just when you think you can't have a greater dislike for leftist judges …

And trans people. Used to feel sorry for them. Starting to utterly despise them.
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4:33p, 6/1/26
Sorry folks. This won't stand.

I'm Gipper
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4:36p, 6/1/26
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Suicidal empathy

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4:41p, 6/1/26
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Drill Instructors would sort them out.

I would like to think that they would
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In reply to Logos Stick • 4:50p, 6/1/26
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People with mental illness should not be in the military.

We used to understand this.

Democrats are so ******* disgusting.
I don’t get enough credit for the things I manage not to say.
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4:56p, 6/1/26
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I mean they seem to be the most hate filled and violent members of society… And they are by far the most likely to commit mass shootings. Those are the ones you want to drop behind enemy lines.

The queen berets…
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