The death penalty is a deterrent? Who knew.

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The death penalty is wrong if it's purely retaliatory. It's a proper punishment if it's used to enact justice and give the opportunity for atonement.

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Is it? I think youre over complicating the matter. Id like for you to explain this more.

If you really want to know here you go, but be warned.

ALERT: Jury broke down in tears today while footage of Tanner Horner killing 7-year-old Athena Strand was played.

They were also shown footage of Horner telling his boss that he had “thrown up” in the truck, requesting the same vehicle the next day.

The footage of the abduction… pic.twitter.com/r8h7Uso9f7

— E X X ➠A L E R T S (@ExxAlerts) April 16, 2026

"I thought it was funny."

Video shows Tanner Horner, the FedEx driver who kidnapped and m*rdered and likely R*ped 7-year-old Athena Strand Prosecutors said.

Horner said he "thought it was funny" to strip off her clothes before k*lling her. pic.twitter.com/oqun3IDo07

— i Report Racism & Child Crimes (@SeeRacists) May 5, 2026

Lathspell said:

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I was all for the death penalty, up through my 20's. In my 30's, after truly seeing how corrupt the judicial system and politicians truly are, I've actually stepped away from it a bit, due to not trusting those in power to exercise it faithfully.

But fully agree. If it was ever necessary for anything, this is the exact example I would give. There is absolutely no doubt as to what happened.

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I have no problem with the death penalty and think it should be used more. But there has to be absolutely no doubt that they did it. Otherwise life sentence.

And 20-30 years, appeals, bull**** uh-huh it should cap at two years.

So you are saying the system mostly gets it right.

Consider what the parents have had to endure.

Hopefully he gets prison yard stomped to death, as slowly and painfully as possible, long before the needle.

ErnestEndeavor said:

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There's a myriad of reasons.

I think life in prison is simply worse punishment for some people. In this case it might actually be preferable for him to be on death row where he would be given his own cell.

I don't think the death penalty has proven to be a deterrent.

I also think despite the numerous appeals and chances to find errors in the evidence or the process, mistakes can still be made. I do believe Texas has executed people who might have been factually innocent.

LWOP protects society just as well as death row, IMO.

But again, not going to lose any sleep over this guy.

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Per the 2nd paragraph, that assumes that there isn't some sort of punishment after this life. There is and it's going to make life in prison seem like a vacation. I say put him in the express lane to get to there

I wish I just hadn't opened this thread.

I am 100% fine with it being retaliatory. Call it justice. Call it retaliatory. Just kill this evil piece of **** for what he did.

ErnestEndeavor said:

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There's a myriad of reasons.

I think life in prison is simply worse punishment for some people. In this case it might actually be preferable for him to be on death row where he would be given his own cell.

I don't think the death penalty has proven to be a deterrent. It is a proven fact that not one executed murderer has ever reoffended.

I also think despite the numerous appeals and chances to find errors in the evidence or the process, mistakes can still be made. I do believe Texas has executed people who might have been factually innocent.

LWOP protects society just as well as death row, IMO. Aubrey Hawkins on line 1.

But again, not going to lose any sleep over this guy.

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ErnestEndeavor said:

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I don't necessarily think it's a great deterrent.

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1) Thats not its purpose

2) It's not a deterrent because we don't apply it often enough, quickly enough, or publicly enough. Raise the standard for sentencing to 100% certainty then carry the sentence out within 30-60 days.

3) Expand to include child molesters, serial violent criminals, human traffickers, and maybe a few more

BTKAG97 said:

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ErnestEndeavor said:

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I don't necessarily think it's a great deterrent

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The Death Penalty never was and never will be a deterrent. That is not its purpose.

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That's because it's not used liberally enough.

Wait a minute. Aren't us Maga types supposed to fight against this?

Hank the Grifter said:

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Torture him slowly.

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Three guys are sailing when a storm takes them off course and they crash into a small island.

They spend the first couple days exploring the island when all of a sudden they see some tribal people who surround them and take them back to their village.

The Chief comes out and says "we have had white man before I speak your language. You have 2 choices, death or Juju. The first guy says "well I don't want to die so I guess Juju" the village starts cheering and chanting "juju! juju!" and they take him behind the village huts and the other 2 guys hear him screaming like he is in terrible pain. The villagers bring the first guy back and he's pale white like he has been traumatized and he can't speak.

The chief asked the second guy if he wants death or Juju. The second guy says "well Juju seems really bad but still I don't want to die I guess Juju." The Villager starts cheering and chanting Juju Juju. The Villager takes the second guy behind the huts and all the third guy can hear is screaming and "juju! juju!". After about a half hour of screaming and the villagers chaining Juju the second guy comes back out looking even more traumatized than the first guy. The second guy is able to talk a little and manages to say "dont pick Juju! the entire village rapes you...."

The chief ask the 3rd guy "death... Or Juju?" The third guy says " I guess death" the villagers start going nuts, drums start playing, the fires get bigger and the chief yells at the top of his lungs "Death by juju!"

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usmcbrooks said:

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Wait a minute. Aren't us Maga types supposed to fight against this?

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Against what?

annie88 said:

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If you really want to know here you go, but be warned.

ALERT: Jury broke down in tears today while footage of Tanner Horner killing 7-year-old Athena Strand was played.

They were also shown footage of Horner telling his boss that he had “thrown up” in the truck, requesting the same vehicle the next day.

The footage of the abduction… pic.twitter.com/r8h7Uso9f7

— E X X ➠A L E R T S (@ExxAlerts) April 16, 2026

"I thought it was funny."

Video shows Tanner Horner, the FedEx driver who kidnapped and m*rdered and likely R*ped 7-year-old Athena Strand Prosecutors said.

Horner said he "thought it was funny" to strip off her clothes before k*lling her. pic.twitter.com/oqun3IDo07

— i Report Racism & Child Crimes (@SeeRacists) May 5, 2026

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My wife was yelling obscenities today and I ran in to figure out what was happening. She was yelling, "Yes kill that M'fr", Unfortunately, now I understand what she was hollering about. I wish I didn't.

I used to think that shooting someone like this behind the ear would be the thing to do. Now I am in favor of a very slow death. Buried from the neck down in the Comanche way is what they should suffer. Harming a child is the devil incarnate.

God bless that baby and God please give her parents peace.

91AggieLawyer said:

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Lathspell said:

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I was all for the death penalty, up through my 20's. In my 30's, after truly seeing how corrupt the judicial system and politicians truly are, I've actually stepped away from it a bit, due to not trusting those in power to exercise it faithfully.

But fully agree. If it was ever necessary for anything, this is the exact example I would give. There is absolutely no doubt as to what happened.

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My question for people that say this is, you're OK with those spending their life in prison even though they might be innocent?

The answer is to fix the issue(s) that creates doubt in your mind, not the deserved punishment.

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You see they might be innocent, might. However we do know who gets killed by the thousands everyday that is 100% innocent and millions of people are ok with it. Does it suck if a person gets wrongfully convicted? Sure, but its pretty ****ing rare compared to abortions. 1 wrongful conviction out of millions of abortions. Boo****inghoo.

BTKAG97 said:

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ErnestEndeavor said:

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I don't necessarily think it's a great deterrent

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The Death Penalty never was and never will be a deterrent. That is not its purpose.

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Yup. Supporting the death penalty is all about whether or not you believe someone can do something so bad they forfeit any right to live.

He did.

Feet first.

Let him have the death penalty…. If he survives after a month in gen pop.

Kidnapping, rape and murder of a child…. The worst of the worst

The death penalty isn't "overly used in Texas", what is is the length of time it takes to erase these murderers from this world.

Hank the Grifter said:

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Torture him slowly.

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He may not survive prison unless he's highly segregated from day one.

I will use liberal logic about justifying. If having the death penalty deters one person and saves one life. Then it is worth it.

My question is, why did this take a month long trial, and why didn't they just hang the piece of **** at the town square the day of sentencing?

SunrayAg said:

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Hopefully he gets prison yard stomped to death, as slowly and painfully as possible, long before the needle.

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I don't think they will have a chance on death row. We can hope but it won't happen. Even the sex offenders on regular units are protected now. The state has changed alot used to the guards would make sure the inimates knew and see that things got handled. Now they have buildings that are just for the sickos like that.

My problem with the death penalty is the cost to taxpayers. We need to revisit the process and make the appeal timeframe quicker and more efficient. Get it over with and get the guilty under the ground as soon as possible and lessen the taxpayer burden.

cevans_40 said:

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My problem with the death penalty is the cost to taxpayers. We need to revisit the process and make the appeal timeframe quicker and more efficient. Get it over with and get the guilty under the ground as soon as possible and lessen the taxpayer burden.

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I've always thought Japan had it right. You aren't given an actual date they just wake you up one day and say its time to go, then they just lead you to a room with a rope and a trapdoor.

The Ex Officio Director said:

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I believe the tree is still out front, someone grab a rope.

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Rope would be too quick…

91AggieLawyer said:

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Lathspell said:

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I was all for the death penalty, up through my 20's. In my 30's, after truly seeing how corrupt the judicial system and politicians truly are, I've actually stepped away from it a bit, due to not trusting those in power to exercise it faithfully.

But fully agree. If it was ever necessary for anything, this is the exact example I would give. There is absolutely no doubt as to what happened.

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My question for people that say this is, you're OK with those spending their life in prison even though they might be innocent?

The answer is to fix the issue(s) that creates doubt in your mind, not the deserved punishment.

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So we need to fix a corrupt government.

I wholely agree with you but that's a pretty sizeable ask.

I'm generally opposed to the death penalty, but in this case, I'll allow it.

cevans_40 said:

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My problem with the death penalty is the cost to taxpayers. We need to revisit the process and make the appeal timeframe quicker and more efficient. Get it over with and get the guilty under the ground as soon as possible and lessen the taxpayer burden.

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Might be able to streamline the appeals process. Other than that due process requires a full investigation and trial. Defense counsel have one job, delay, delay, delay. That goes for pretrial proceedings and post conviction as allowed under appellate process.

The appellate process could be expedited by legislative action solely for DP cases.

I volunteer as tribute to swiftly apply justice.

IslanderAg04 said:

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My question is, why did this take a month long trial, and why didn't they just hang the piece of **** at the town square the day of sentencing?

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Because the prosecutor was fighting like hell for the death penalty, and the defense was fighting like hell for life in prison. There was 19 days of testimony.

Tie him to a post, stack sticks around him and light a fire!

Maybe a public stoning.

reineraggie09 said:

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I have little girls. This one hits home. Not sure why we are waiting around with this one. Should just get it over with.

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Should have been shot in the courtyard of the courthouse immediately upon sentencing.