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https://cowboystatedaily.com/2026/04/24/god-never-forced-anyone-wyoming-gop-rejects-declaring-wyoming-a-christian-state/

Thought some might find this interesting. Not a resident but support their decision.
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Why did the Pilgrims come over here again? What religious faith were they?

Yeah

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Picard said:

Why did the Pilgrims come over here again? What religious faith were they?

Yeah



Religious freedom.

They fled forced religion.

What if it was a delegation declaring the state an Islamic, Hindu, or Wiccan state?
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What if it was a delegation declaring the state an Islamic, Hindu, or Wiccan state?


because anyone who knows anything about US history knows that would be ridiculous
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Let's be very honest here

When the founding fathers created this country, they founded it on Judeo-Christian morality and Western enlightenment thought.

When they said freedom of Religion, they were saying no official state Christian Church but that the people could worship Christ in whatever manner they choose.

They were not envisioning a future where this country welcomed a non-Christian religion whose values were the absolute antithesis of Judeo Christian and Western Enlightenment thought and wanted us to tolerate and welcome such an ideology and hand our country over to it.
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Wyoming and the western US in general is far more libertarian. Good call on the part of the Wyoming GOP.
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Maroon Dawn said:

Let's be very honest here

When the founding fathers created this country, they founded it on Judeo-Christian morality and Western enlightenment thought.

When they said freedom of Religion, they were saying no official state Christian Church but that the people could worship Christ in whatever manner they choose.

They were not envisioning a future where this country welcomed a non-Christian religion whose values were the absolute antithesis of Judeo Christian and Western Enlightenment thought and wanted us to tolerate and welcome such an ideology and hand our country over to it.

Well said.
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They should focus more efforts on keeping the invasion coming from California if they want to save the state. If declaring the state Christian then maybe it would have been a good deterrent.
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Wyoming is a Christian State, because they have grizzly bears in the mountains.

Even a high powered rifle with a heavy bullet may not be enough to save someone from those abominations; leaving most people with only 1 option. Prayer.

It follows the tests in schools logic, but as a more extreme example.
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Next step will be the resettlement of Muslim refugees and H1B workers swarming the state.
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VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

Next step will be the resettlement of Muslim refugees and H1B workers swarming the state.


Probably.
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Maroon Dawn said:

Let's be very honest here

When the founding fathers created this country, they founded it on Judeo-Christian morality and Western enlightenment thought.

When they said freedom of Religion, they were saying no official state Christian Church but that the people could worship Christ in whatever manner they choose.

They were not envisioning a future where this country welcomed a non-Christian religion whose values were the absolute antithesis of Judeo Christian and Western Enlightenment thought and wanted us to tolerate and welcome such an ideology and hand our country over to it.


States had official religions at the founding. The idea was that there wouldn't be a federal government that could standardize a single denomination and penalize other denominations.

We were founded on religious freedom, not religious universalism. Look at the writings of John Quincy Adams on Islam when we were fighting the Barbary pirates.

America was never founded as some hippy dippy religious utopia. It was founded as a Christian nation with the caveat that there would be no federal government that can act like a king and enforce a religion against the will of the people.

ETA: I'm building on what you posted, not arguing with it.
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This country and its states were originally shaped by Christian principles. Those principles helped establish a moral framework that formed our laws and freedoms, including the freedom to worship or not. If that foundation is removed, the question becomes, what replaces it? Without a shared moral anchor or belief in absolutes, decisions risk being driven by shifting cultural trends or whoever holds the most influence at the time, which could include not allowing the freedom of religion.
Care to consider the fastest growing "religion or ideology"?
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Stupe said:

Picard said:

Why did the Pilgrims come over here again? What religious faith were they?

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Religious freedom.

They fled forced religion.

What if it was a delegation declaring the state an Islamic, Hindu, or Wiccan state?



It will be exactly that soon enough. Stand for something or fall for anything.
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Better be careful or they'll lose what makes their state great.
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VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

Next step will be the resettlement of Muslim refugees and H1B workers swarming the state.



They will send those people to Gillette or Laramie because they sure won't be allowed in Jackson
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Burdizzo said:

VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

Next step will be the resettlement of Muslim refugees and H1B workers swarming the state.



They will send those people to Gillette or Laramie because they sure won't be allowed in Jackson


Probably send them to Cheyenne since that is the capital. Capitals and urban areas are where left wing cancer starts and metastasizes. Once they establish the foothold there, then the state falls.
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Picard said:

Why did the Pilgrims come over here again?


For religious freedom
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Sid Farkas said:

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What if it was a delegation declaring the state an Islamic, Hindu, or Wiccan state?


because anyone who knows anything about US history knows that would be ridiculous

Minnesota says hold my beer.
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VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

Next step will be the resettlement of Muslim refugees and H1B workers swarming the state.


You think by declaring themselves a Christian state that would keep the riff raff out?



That's what makes them a target. Why do you think the left has targeted A&M?
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Maroon Dawn said:

Let's be very honest here

When the founding fathers created this country, they founded it on Judeo-Christian morality and Western enlightenment thought.

When they said freedom of Religion, they were saying no official state Christian Church but that the people could worship Christ in whatever manner they choose.

They were not envisioning a future where this country welcomed a non-Christian religion whose values were the absolute antithesis of Judeo Christian and Western Enlightenment thought and wanted us to tolerate and welcome such an ideology and hand our country over to it.

Many founding fathers including Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, and Thomas Paine were Deists or supported Deism. Deists emphasized nature, reason, and a benevolent creator over traditional Christian dogma, miracles, and revelation. Deists generally view Jesus of Nazareth as a wise, moral teacher or philosopher rather than a divine being. They rejected the Trinity and the Nicaean Creed and could therefore could not, technically, be called Christians.
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Important to note that whilst most of the FFs were Protestant or Catholic, several of the most influential drafters of the Constitution, particularly in this area, were deists and rejected any concepts divinity of the Abrahamic god and the Holy Trinity.

It is freedom of religion, not freedom from religion nor freedom for religion.

Wyoming is virtue signaling here. Dumb.
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Maroon Dawn said:

Let's be very honest here

When the founding fathers created this country, they founded it on Judeo-Christian morality and Western enlightenment thought.

When they said freedom of Religion, they were saying no official state Christian Church but that the people could worship Christ in whatever manner they choose.

They were not envisioning a future where this country welcomed a non-Christian religion whose values were the absolute antithesis of Judeo Christian and Western Enlightenment thought and wanted us to tolerate and welcome such an ideology and hand our country over to it.


You posted numerous incorrect statements.

However the one arguably accurate thing you posted is: they wouldn't have wanted us to "welcome such an ideology and hand our country over to it".

Btw, if you look backwards in history just 200 years before 1780, Christianity was a horrendously evil and bad religion.
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DeschutesAg said:

Btw, if you look backwards in history just 200 years before 1780, Christianity was a horrendously evil and bad religion.

Why choose 1780?

Christianity was not and has never been "horrendously evil". As with other religions, both Abrahamic and others, the religion is oft used by corrupt leaders to unite, motivate and or subjugate the folks being "led".

Heck, Vlad da Great actually invited religious leaders to discuss and make their case for why their religion was bestest. This included both eastern and western Christian orthodoxies, Islam and I believe another. He then decided that the best way to unite the various "tribes" of early Kevan Rus was to implement Eastern Orthodox Christianity, converting himself and then mass forced conversion of the people he intended to rule over.

Same method was followed by raiding Arabs who ultimately rejected Judaism and early Christianity as the emerging religion of Islam allowed for interpretations which fit their desires to constantly war against that neighbor to pillage and loot. Turns out adding Allah to the mix became very effective, particularly when used AGAINST Jews and Christians.

But Christianity is far from a uniquely violent 'religion', either past or present.
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Maroon Dawn said:

Let's be very honest here

When the founding fathers created this country, they founded it on Judeo-Christian morality and Western enlightenment thought.

When they said freedom of Religion, they were saying no official state Christian Church but that the people could worship Christ in whatever manner they choose.

They were not envisioning a future where this country welcomed a non-Christian religion whose values were the absolute antithesis of Judeo Christian and Western Enlightenment thought and wanted us to tolerate and welcome such an ideology and hand our country over to it.


This is generally accurate except for the use of "Judeo Christian" which wasn't a term or concept which had been invented yet.
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It's not generally accurate even with your proposed edit. See previous two posts above.

I support more Christians and actual faithful Christians, faithful believers for that matter, being in leadership in the Country.

The infamous John Adams quote oft referenced on this topic does not mention a particular religion and is further indication that the FFs were NOT set on Christianity or Judaism.

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"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
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I'm not even sure what the term means.
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From wikipedia...


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The term "Judeo Christian" appears in a letter by Alexander McCaul which is dated October 17, 1821. The term in this case referred to Jewish converts to Christianity. The term was similarly used by Joseph Wolff in 1829, in reference to a type of church that would observe some Jewish traditions in order to convert Jews.

The concept of Judeo-Christian ethics or Judeo-Christian values in an ethical (rather than a theological or liturgical) sense was used by George Orwell in 1939, along with the phrase "the Judaeo-Christian scheme of morals".According to theologian Richard L. Rubenstein, the "normative Judaeo-Christian interpretation of history" is to treat human suffering, such as a plague, as punishment for human guilt.

According to historian K. Healan Gaston, the term became a descriptor of the U.S. in the 1930s, when the country sought to forge a unified cultural identity in an attempt to distinguish itself from fascism and communism in Europe.



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YouBet said:

Burdizzo said:

VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

Next step will be the resettlement of Muslim refugees and H1B workers swarming the state.



They will send those people to Gillette or Laramie because they sure won't be allowed in Jackson


Probably send them to Cheyenne since that is the capital. Capitals and urban areas are where left wing cancer starts and metastasizes. Once they establish the foothold there, then the state falls.


I suggested Laramie because the University is there.
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Burdizzo said:

YouBet said:

Burdizzo said:

VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

Next step will be the resettlement of Muslim refugees and H1B workers swarming the state.



They will send those people to Gillette or Laramie because they sure won't be allowed in Jackson


Probably send them to Cheyenne since that is the capital. Capitals and urban areas are where left wing cancer starts and metastasizes. Once they establish the foothold there, then the state falls.


I suggested Laramie because the University is there.


Valid.
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DeschutesAg said:

Maroon Dawn said:

Let's be very honest here

When the founding fathers created this country, they founded it on Judeo-Christian morality and Western enlightenment thought.

When they said freedom of Religion, they were saying no official state Christian Church but that the people could worship Christ in whatever manner they choose.

They were not envisioning a future where this country welcomed a non-Christian religion whose values were the absolute antithesis of Judeo Christian and Western Enlightenment thought and wanted us to tolerate and welcome such an ideology and hand our country over to it.


You posted numerous incorrect statements.

However the one arguably accurate thing you posted is: they wouldn't have wanted us to "welcome such an ideology and hand our country over to it".

Btw, if you look backwards in history just 200 years before 1780, Christianity was a horrendously evil and bad religion.


So, 500 years ago and totally irrelevant to this conversation even if accurate.
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Burdizzo said:

VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

Next step will be the resettlement of Muslim refugees and H1B workers swarming the state.



They will send those people to Gillette or Laramie because they sure won't be allowed in Jackson


Nor, Cody.


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The United States is a Christian nation, and Wyoming is a Christian state.

What exactly do the proponents mean by that, policy-wise?
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You're either a good, decent, honorable person of integrity or not, and it has nothing to do with religion. Goodness was embodied within Christianity because Jesus was a prime example of it, but it wasn't then unique to him or then, and now to Christians. As mentioned earlier, corrupt and power hungry people have twisted and used religion, including Christianity, for their own purposes but that only means they've abandoned the core tenets of faith, not that the faith itself ever changed.
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Once Trump finishes making American the official language of the United States (yes, its happening), he should codify the Golden Rule or just put it in neon gold letters on the Arc de Trumph in DC.

Wyoming again looks dumb here.
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