Southern poverty law center charged by DOJ with fraud

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Because the deep state possibly destroyed the correspondence.
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I'm Gipper
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Interesting tidbit on SPLC. Bill Cooper was a Vietnam Veteran, Naval Intelligence Officer, radio host, author, government watchdog / whistleblower in the 90's that was shot and killed in his driveway in late 2001. In mid 2001 Cooper predicted the 9/11 attacks on his radio show and even went so far to say that it would be blammed on a guy named Osama Bin Laden. I don't believe in coincidences or blind luck of this nature, but whatever. In an Arizona newspaper article covering the shooting, the spokesman for "the group that watches militias" was "Mark Potok of the Souther Poverty Law Center". His comments were intended to discredit and villianize Cooper after the incident.
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will25u said:



That didn't seem to bother SPLC when all of those Jan 6ers needed some help.
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May the Good Lord bring about swift justice against these race baiters and the hate they funded.
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Are any actual people being prosecuted?
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Burdizzo said:

Dumb question, why are they asking SPLC for correspondence that should be available through FOIA?

FOIA applies to federal agencies which SPLC is not.
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Alte Schule said:

Burdizzo said:

Dumb question, why are they asking SPLC for correspondence that should be available through FOIA?

FOIA applies to federal agencies which SPLC is not.


But since they are asking for communications with federal agencies those federal agencies should have copies of those same communications.

IMO this is about putting the workload to get that info on SPLC and to see what they might try to "forget".
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MJ20/20 said:

Interesting tidbit on SPLC. Bill Cooper was a Vietnam Veteran, Naval Intelligence Officer, radio host, author, government watchdog / whistleblower in the 90's that was shot and killed in his driveway in late 2001. In mid 2001 Cooper predicted the 9/11 attacks on his radio show and even went so far to say that it would be blammed on a guy named Osama Bin Laden. I don't believe in coincidences or blind luck of this nature, but whatever. In an Arizona newspaper article covering the shooting, the spokesman for "the group that watches militias" was "Mark Potok of the Souther Poverty Law Center". His comments were intended to discredit and villianize Cooper after the incident.


Prediction the 9/11 stacks and that BinLaden would be behind it isn't a bold prediction. Remember he was already the architect of the 91 bombing of the WTC with the Ryder truck in the basement garage.
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I don’t get enough credit for the things I manage not to say.
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Re: "The SPLC has filed its motion to dismiss for vindictive and selective prosecution."

Did not a federal judge dismiss trafficking charges against Abrego Garcia siting this "reason?"

If the SPLC gets a judge to dismiss the case using this same excuse/defense.... Trump and every Trump associate that have been dogged by the feds and states since 2015 need to employ this same "vindictive and selective prosecution" defense.

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solishu said:

Silent For Too Long said:

You are trying way to hard to spin this. If everything they were doing was legal and above board they wouldn't be hiding money in the Caymans.

I'm not trying to spin anything. It's a criminal prosecution. SPLC are claiming that that these expenditures are for paying informants. I'm stating that I believe that if the government can prove that they were actually to incite criminality, than they will be able to secure convictions. If they are unable accomplish that, I think that the prosecution will fail.


You disappeared. Anything you want to add given what's gone out? Guessing talking points aren't out yet.
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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

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All this stuff is clearly illegal. I have no love for SPLC and am not carrying water for them. I still don't think that charges of using donor funds to pay for Nazi informants is going to stick.
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solishu said:

All this stuff is clearly illegal. I have no love for SPLC and am not carrying water for them. I still don't think that charges of using donor funds to pay for Nazi informants is going to stick.

Their donor funds were intended for fighting racism, not promoting it.
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solishu said:

All this stuff is clearly illegal. I have no love for SPLC and am not carrying water for them. I still don't think that charges of using donor funds to pay for Nazi informants is going to stick.


Lolz. It was so much more than informants.
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It certainly appears to be.
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Superceding indictment dropped yesterday, pretty amazing to read. A couple snips from Tyler's thread:

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Everything leftists do is anti-American.
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Sure, but I'd note that from a purely business perspective, this was a brilliant plan to create/fund the Charlottesville rally. Heck, even the politics worked to Peepaw/communists advantage for a while.

Data republican thinks their main man in VA riot was Michael Chesny:
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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
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Burdizzo said:

Dumb question, why are they asking SPLC for correspondence that should be available through FOIA?

Because, when SPLC refused to give them the documents, now they get to ask for a subpoena for those documents.

And, if SPLC responds to that subpoena and says that the documents don't exist, but they show up in FOIA, then the SPLC gets smoked.
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will25u said:




Bessent desperately needs to hire Elliot Ness's grandson to head up the civil forfeiture division and just start taking all of the assets from all of these slimeball organizations.
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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

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They are blatant hypocrites. It's about time someone called them out.
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I am glad the DOJ indicted the SPLC with 11 counts of fraud and money laundering charges. I hope this results in a criminal conviction and prison time for every current or former SPLC member who is involved.
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SPLC-related indictment (apparently).
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nortex97 said:

SPLC-related indictment (apparently).


couldn't happen to a nicer tub of goo
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How was she not arrested for desecrating a grave?
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Backyard Gator said:

How was she not arrested for desecrating a grave?

They took his whole monument/grave out of Memphis as part of the BLM hysteria back around 10 years ago. It was a bitter political fiasco of course. Memphis rivals LA and NYC as one of the worst governed cities in America, imho.
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They sure love them some neo-nazi's, lol.
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It also describes how "Employee-2" wrote an article based on material stolen from National Alliance headquarters in 2014 and then paid off an informant to take the blame for the robbery.

Based on the details in the June 2 superseding indictment, "Employee-2" is understood to be Heidi Beirich, a 58-year-old fascism expert who was the Director of Intelligence at the Alabama-based anti-extremism nonprofit between 2012 and 2019.

The indictment alleges Beirich was incredibly close to the informant known only as "F-9" who "infiltrated the neo-Nazi organization National Alliance."

"[Beirich] was also in a romantic relationship with F-9. During this relationship, [Beirich] and F-9 shared a house and two bank accounts," the indictment alleges.

"Between 2015 and 2021, approximately $140,000 in donors' money flowed from the SPLC operating account … and was ultimately deposited into the joint bank accounts held by F-9 and [Beirich].

In 2015 Beirich wrote an article allegedly based on the stolen materials for her group's "Hatewatch" section of its website. That article, "Chaos at the Compound" is still available.

The indictment then describes how the SPLC then tried to cover up who their informant was by paying a second informant "approximately $6,000" to take responsibility for the burglary.
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"I think some of those cluckers wanted to get out of the movement and they went to the SPLC for help. But instead of helping them, [the SPLC] said, 'why don't you stay in and get paid?'" he added of the informants.

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nortex97 said:


They sure love them some neo-nazi's, lol.
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It also describes how "Employee-2" wrote an article based on material stolen from National Alliance headquarters in 2014 and then paid off an informant to take the blame for the robbery.

Based on the details in the June 2 superseding indictment, "Employee-2" is understood to be Heidi Beirich, a 58-year-old fascism expert who was the Director of Intelligence at the Alabama-based anti-extremism nonprofit between 2012 and 2019.

The indictment alleges Beirich was incredibly close to the informant known only as "F-9" who "infiltrated the neo-Nazi organization National Alliance."

"[Beirich] was also in a romantic relationship with F-9. During this relationship, [Beirich] and F-9 shared a house and two bank accounts," the indictment alleges.

"Between 2015 and 2021, approximately $140,000 in donors' money flowed from the SPLC operating account … and was ultimately deposited into the joint bank accounts held by F-9 and [Beirich].

In 2015 Beirich wrote an article allegedly based on the stolen materials for her group's "Hatewatch" section of its website. That article, "Chaos at the Compound" is still available.

The indictment then describes how the SPLC then tried to cover up who their informant was by paying a second informant "approximately $6,000" to take responsibility for the burglary.
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"I think some of those cluckers wanted to get out of the movement and they went to the SPLC for help. But instead of helping them, [the SPLC] said, 'why don't you stay in and get paid?'" he added of the informants.




How is this not some form of supporting domestic terorism? This is exactly the relationship the houthis and the Iranians have. You're getting paid to start **** that normally couldn't be started because you're know nothing losers who couldn't organize a bake sale.

Now you're giving them money, organizational skills and empowering them? This is ****ing insane. It's literally the meme of "there's not enough supply of racism to support the demand".
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Backyard Gator said:

How was she not arrested for desecrating a grave?

Because that name Bedford Forrest provides the permission structure to desecrate graves with impunity.

Oddly, the name Sam Sturgis does not provide similar permission structure.

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June 14, 1864, War Crimes by perpetrated by U.S. General Samuel D. Sturgis' Federal Troops at Ft. Pillow: "AVENGERS OF FORT PILLOW" via Library of Congress.

This letter was received by the Memphis Daily Appeal, June 23, 1864, following the victory at Brice's Crossroads. It describes the atrocities committed against innocent Southern citizens, women and children by the Federal troops under the Command U.S. General Sturgis heading down to Mississippi from Memphis, supposedly in revenge for Fort Pillow. Also, this letter it sheds a little light on the accusations made regarding Fort Pillow.

Source: Memphis Daily Appeal, June 23, 1864
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83045160/1864-06-23/ed-1/seq-2/

LETTER FROM MISSISSIPPI: OKOLONA, MISS, JUNE 14, 1864
"… Strategy, Forrest's name, and confidence in their leader, won the day. The Yankees and negroes supposed Forrest [to be] in Middle Tennessee, so they came forth simply to slaughter the helpless, to plunder and desolate the country…

…Before the battle, fugitives [civilian refugees] from the counties through which Sturgis and his troops were advancing, came into our camp detailing incidents which made men shudder who are accustomed to scenes of violence and bloodshed. I cannot recite the stories of these poor frightened people. Robbery, rapine, and the assassination of men and women, were the least of crimes committed while the "Avengers of Fort Pillow" over ran and desolated the country.

Rude unlettered men, who had fought at Shiloh, and in many subsequent battles, wept like children when they heard of the enormities to which their mothers, sisters and wives had been subjected by the Negro mercenaries of Sturgis. The mildest, most peaceable of our soldiers became madmen when they heard how the person of their kinswomen were violated. The Negroes were regardless of the age, condition, sex or entreaties of the victims. In one instance, the grandmother, daughter and grand-daughter, were each, in the same room, held by the drunken brutes and subjected to outrages, by the bare recital of which humanity is appalled.

A young wife, enceinte (pregnant), taken to a negro encampment and tied to stakes driven in the ground, was made to minister to the hell-born passion of a dozen fiends. Death, in mercy, came to her relief. A little boy, who sought to defend his mother, was brutally bayoneted. When their savage lusts were gratified, the victims here and there were burned in their dwellings. Insanity, in some instances, came to the relief of suffering such as never before were inflicted upon human creatures by remorseless fiends in human shape. Terror, and the agony of hopeless shame, and famine, and fire and blood, and the assassination of the helpless and unoffending, marked the progress of the "Avengers of Fort Pillow." It is not strange that negro prisoners were "lost". The whites who led them on and incited them to these damnable deeds deserve a more terrible punishment... (White Federal Officers)

You have heard that our soldiers buried negroes alive at For Pillow. This is true. At the first fire, after Forrest men scaled the walls, many of the negroes threw down their arms and fell as if they were dead. They persisted in the pretense and could only be restored at the pint of the bayonet. To resuscitate some of them, more terrified than the rest, they were rolled into the trenches made as receptacles for the fallen. Vitality was not restored till breathing was obstructed, and then the resurrection began. On these facts is based the pretext for the crimes committed by Gen. Sturgis, Grierson and their followers. You must remember, too, that in the extremity of their terror, or for other reasons, the Yankees and negroes in Fort Pillow neglected to hall down their flag. In truth, relying upon their gunboats, the officers expected to annihilate our forces after we had entered the fortifications. They did not intend to surrender.

A terrible retribution, in any event, has befallen the ignorant deluded Africans. Furnish with arms, besotted by whiskey, misled by lies, maddened by hopes which they can never realize, they have committed crimes which makes the blood run cold, and must shock the moral sentiment of the age. The world will hardly know which to condemn most, the falsehood of the report of the committee of Federal Congressmen which investigate the "Fort Pillow Massacre," or the conduct of the savage brutes employed to avenge it. If all that is alleged in the congressional report be true, there would be found no justification for the unheard enormities practiced upon helpless women, more helpless old age, and hopeless poverty, by the mob of murderers and lawless miscreants who followed Sturgis from Memphis..."

~War Crimes and Violations of under a "Flag of truce" Committed by Sturgis and his Federal Officers were an embarrassment to Federal and Congressional investigators, led by General W.T. Sherman

Note: C.S. General Forrest was later acquitted of all charges in the battle at Fort Pillow on the U.S. Congressional Record.

 
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