Gulf Arabs call out European hypocrisy on Ukraine / Iran...

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LMCane
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this guy NAILS IT

the hypocrisy is stunning and really makes zero sense.

why should Italy care more about destroying Russia than stopping a nuclear war in the Meditteranean Sea and Middle East and Europe?!?!

rausr
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Boom!

This is beautiful, and certainly puts our so-called "allies" to task.

Would love a little MSM coverage of this logic.
96AgGrad
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Two-tier Kier lives up to his name in so many ways. Macron is no better.
MouthBQ98
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To be fair, Ukraine and Russia are closer to Europevthan the ME and border on several European nations.
LMCane
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MouthBQ98 said:

To be fair, Ukraine and Russia are closer to Europevthan the ME and border on several European nations.


does Russia border on Spain?

which is more likely?

The Islamic Republic threatening Europe with nuclear weapons detonated over Paris -

or Russia actually nuking Paris?
96AgGrad
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Even if Iran is a minimal threat to Europe, they shouldn't be admonishing those countries that are in the immediate vicinity.
MouthBQ98
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I'm saying based on history and geography, Europe very rightly sees Russia as the greater immediate threat.

Yes, their energy policies are stupid and self defeating but Iran wasn't threatening to systematically infiltrate former Warsaw pact nations and subvert them into puppet states, if not outright invading them in turn. Russia absolutely has been doing that for decades now in Europe. Please approach the with some common sense.

We all get that Europeans are weak pusses, they also know Iran wasn't going to hit them, Itan was going to bide their time until they could hit American assets more directly, or at least threaten it. Europe they knew would be overwhelmed in due time by migration.
Ellis Wyatt
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I'm guessing Western European leaders have been taking laundered money through Iran like they have Ukraine. They don't want it all out in the open.

Their behavior makes no sense otherwise. They're betas for sure, but this goes beyond that.
LMCane
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Ellis Wyatt said:

I'm guessing Western European leaders have been taking laundered money through Iran like they have Ukraine. They don't want it all out in the open.

Their behavior makes no sense otherwise. They're betas for sure, but this goes beyond that.




the only real explanation is that the leftists in Western Europe are getting paid off directly by the Islamic Republic and Qataris

or they have been promised lucrative economic deals

or that they won't be targeted in the Gulf or in terror attacks
TheCurl84
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MouthBQ98 said:

I'm saying based on history and geography, Europe very rightly sees Russia as the greater immediate threat.

Yes, their energy policies are stupid and self defeating but Iran wasn't threatening to systematically infiltrate former Warsaw pact nations and subvert them into puppet states, if not outright invading them in turn. Russia absolutely has been doing that for decades now in Europe. Please approach the with some common sense.

We all get that Europeans are weak pusses, they also know Iran wasn't going to hit them, Itan was going to bide their time until they could hit American assets more directly, or at least threaten it. Europe they knew would be overwhelmed in due time by migration.



But isn't that the point of the guy's tweet? One would think the Euros would have more understanding of the position of the gulf monarchies.
nortex97
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96AgGrad said:

Even if Iran is a minimal threat to Europe, they shouldn't be admonishing those countries that are in the immediate vicinity.

Iran has the missile capability to hit Berlin/London/Rome/Paris already. They spend all day sniffing each others' TDS farts and wafting cash to/from Kiev, usually masked as 'loans.'

Meanwhile, the cash flow Godfather 'ally' just told Iranian-American IRGC CNN propagandist Christiane Amanpour this:
Quote:

I have the feeling that Trump has said from the beginning that he will stay in the middle. This shows that he is neither on my side nor on the Russian side.

His signals are more positive towards Russia than Ukraine, that's the way it is.

He knows where his cashflow is coming from this year/next. The French, notably, have at least assisted with some of their forces protecting UAE/Bahrain etc. from drones I will admit, even while refusing otherwise to take any diplomatic/military measures to support our efforts to defang/destroy the IRGC.
backintexas2013
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Common sense? Like Europe still being in bed with Russia while demanding we send money to Ukraine?
doubledog
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European hypocrisy : Yell and scream at Russian aggression and arm Ukraine at the front door. Take Russian oil and gas at the back door. What do we expect from socialists?
5Amp
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We should abandon Europe to their on devices as we strengthened western hemisphere ties. There is nothing we need from Europe. They are half way around the world, separated by a large body of water. They have lost their way.

We build our on iron dome, take Greenland, Cuba, the lesser Antilles, and support Argentina taking the Falklands.



The most beautiful places on earth are in the western hemisphere, truly not in the ruins of Europe.

Ogre09
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Denying US planes the use of their air space is indefensible and should definitely have repercussions.
Keyno
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Iran is not a threat to the EU. Just like they are not a threat to America. The EU understands this, because the EU is not run by Israel First politicians.

HTH
Sid Farkas
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Quote:


the only real explanation is that the leftists in Western Europe are getting paid off directly by the Islamic Republic and Qataris

or they have been promised lucrative economic deals

or that they won't be targeted in the Gulf or in terror attacks


Or they're acting out on their TDS
Aggie95
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Keyno said:

Iran is not a threat to the EU. Just like they are not a threat to America. The EU understands this, because the EU is not run by Israel First politicians.

HTH


EU is under direct threat from Muslims…..granted, it's been brought on by the EU's own ridiculous policies
Im Gipper
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Keyno said:

Iran is not a threat to the EU. Just like they are not a threat to America. The EU understands this, because the EU is not run by Israel First politicians.

HTH


You should look into getting paid by Iran for all the water you carry for them by pushing their lies here all the time.


HTH

I'm Gipper
deddog
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MouthBQ98 said:

To be fair, Ukraine and Russia are closer to Europevthan the ME and border on several European nations.

I don't think you read the whole tweet (you might also not have X)

The OP doesn't admonish Europe for not taking part in the conflict.
It tears them a new one for suggesting that the Middle East countries show restrain against Iran and Hezbollah.
MouthBQ98
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I didn't say they weren't hypocrites. I said they recognize the grater threat in their proximity. Europe isn't all western anymore. Lots of yh don't mind keeping Ukraine as the buffer.
MouthBQ98
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I agree with that sentiment. I'm saying SPECIFICALLY that Europeans writ large view Russia as the greater threat. That why their focus is more on Ukraine. Simple statement that is exclusive of the rest of the article. Of course they are hypocrites regarding middle eastern terrorism. They fear their own migrant populations
Pooh-ah95_ESL
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Our love and warmth for Europe is misplaced nostalgia similar to an old Teddy Bear or James Bond movie. They are lost and gone, and are flushing their culture into the trash bin of history books and academia. Time to move on to a world dominated by North America and hopefully guided by the rudder of a relative sane (shudder) North America.
Tailgate88
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The rest of the Tweet.

Quote:

I genuinely don't know whether to laugh or lose my mind anymore at this European hypocritical double standards.

When it comes to Vladimir Putin, suddenly it's Churchillian resolve. No compromise. No dialogue. Arm Ukraine to the teeth, sanction everything that moves, wreck your own energy security if necessary - because tyranny must be confronted.

Fine. I actually respect the consistency of that … in isolation.

But then you turn around and lecture us - us - the Gulf monarchies, Jordan and Israel, about showing restraint with Tehran? About dialogue? About coexistence?

Are you serious?

For forty years - forty bloody years - this regime has been waging a shadow war across the region. Militias, proxies, sleeper cells, terror networks, destabilizing entire countries - Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen - and threatening the Gulf monarchies, Jordan, and Israel nonstop.

This isn't theoretical. This isn't abstract. This is lived reality.

And yet here come Emmanuel Macron, Keir Starmer, and the rest of the European choir, gently advising us to calm down, de-escalate, and - what was it again? - "give diplomacy a chance."

Diplomacy with who, exactly? With a system that has built its entire regional strategy on plausible deniability and proxy terror violence?

You were willing to absorb inflation, energy shocks, and political backlash at home to confront Moscow. You made that choice. You said: this is the price of standing up to a tyrant.

So don't come here and tell us - after decades of being on the receiving end - that we should just sit down, smile politely, and "coexist."

Either you believe in confronting tyranny everywhere .. or you don't.

Macron, Starmer, rest of EU leaders and top bureaucrats should just STFU and spare us the self righteous sanctimonious lectures!

Keyno
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Im Gipper said:

Keyno said:

Iran is not a threat to the EU. Just like they are not a threat to America. The EU understands this, because the EU is not run by Israel First politicians.

HTH


You should look into getting paid by Iran for all the water you carry for them by pushing their lies here all the time.


HTH

I feel like if what we claim about Iran is true- they are trying to build a nuke and have some sort of cartoonishly evil plan to destroy the world- then the Euros would be backing us up. A long with the rest of the world.
JB!98
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Tailgate88 said:

The rest of the Tweet.

Quote:

I genuinely don't know whether to laugh or lose my mind anymore at this European hypocritical double standards.

When it comes to Vladimir Putin, suddenly it's Churchillian resolve. No compromise. No dialogue. Arm Ukraine to the teeth, sanction everything that moves, wreck your own energy security if necessary - because tyranny must be confronted.

Fine. I actually respect the consistency of that … in isolation.

But then you turn around and lecture us - us - the Gulf monarchies, Jordan and Israel, about showing restraint with Tehran? About dialogue? About coexistence?

Are you serious?

For forty years - forty bloody years - this regime has been waging a shadow war across the region. Militias, proxies, sleeper cells, terror networks, destabilizing entire countries - Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen - and threatening the Gulf monarchies, Jordan, and Israel nonstop.

This isn't theoretical. This isn't abstract. This is lived reality.

And yet here come Emmanuel Macron, Keir Starmer, and the rest of the European choir, gently advising us to calm down, de-escalate, and - what was it again? - "give diplomacy a chance."

Diplomacy with who, exactly? With a system that has built its entire regional strategy on plausible deniability and proxy terror violence?

You were willing to absorb inflation, energy shocks, and political backlash at home to confront Moscow. You made that choice. You said: this is the price of standing up to a tyrant.

So don't come here and tell us - after decades of being on the receiving end - that we should just sit down, smile politely, and "coexist."

Either you believe in confronting tyranny everywhere .. or you don't.

Macron, Starmer, rest of EU leaders and top bureaucrats should just STFU and spare us the self righteous sanctimonious lectures!



Boy, that is hitting the nail on the head. I personally do not like Trump and his rhetoric, but this man and his cabinet had the balls to finally confront these A holes and put them in their place. More power to him.
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American Hardwood
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You honestly believe they weren't trying to build nukes in that mountain fortress with centrifuges? Explain why they even today with the 'negotiations' openly claim they will not give up their nuclear ambitions. They are even trying to find a safe ally to take their nuclear material if the reports are true. That's some next level blind eye turning there.
Keyno
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American Hardwood said:

You honestly believe they weren't trying to build nukes in that mountain fortress with centrifuges? Explain why they even today with the 'negotiations' openly claim they will not give up their nuclear ambitions. They are even trying to find a safe ally to take their nuclear material if the reports are true. That's some next level blind eye turning there.

Iran is a signatory of the NPT. Being a member of the NPT ALLOWS for nuclear enrichment. They are not trying to find a safe ally to take their nuclear material. Russia offered to take it a month ago to facilitate a peace deal, and Trump refused that proposal.

As I said in the post that you responded to but did not quote:

"I feel like if what we claim about Iran is true- they are trying to build a nuke and have some sort of cartoonishly evil plan to destroy the world- then the Euros would be backing us up. A long with the rest of the world."
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Keyno said:

Iran is not a threat to the EU. Just like they are not a threat to America. The EU understands this, because the EU is not run by Israel First politicians.

HTH

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Urban Ag
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America's future is not to be tied to dying European nations that refuse to preserve their cultures. It sucks, genuinely wish it were not the case, but there is little we can do about it. Go see the old world while you still can.

Asia, Latin America, and the Gulf Arab states/Israel are our future.
BonfireNerd04
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If it weren't for double standards, leftists would have no standards at all.
BMX Bandit
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the 60% enriched uranium was for the annual Tehran Boy Scouts pinewood derby. They use really souped up models over there. Totally nothing to do with weapons





There is only one reason to have uranium enriched to those levels. The iran backers know this.
Keyno
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BMX Bandit said:

the 60% enriched uranium was for the annual Tehran Boy Scouts pinewood derby. They use really souped up models over there. Totally nothing to do with weapons

There is only one reason to have uranium enriched to those levels. The iran backers know this.

Dude does not understand the concept of nuclear hedging (or maybe he is not aware of it). No big deal; most of this board is the same
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Keyno said:

BMX Bandit said:

the 60% enriched uranium was for the annual Tehran Boy Scouts pinewood derby. They use really souped up models over there. Totally nothing to do with weapons

There is only one reason to have uranium enriched to those levels. The iran backers know this.

Dude does not understand the concept of nuclear hedging (or maybe he is not aware of it). No big deal; most of this board is the same


A terrorist death cult actively nuclear hedging is acceptable if you are a terrorist death cult or sympathetic to the terrorist death cult.

It's not safe for the rest of the world and shrugging it off is delusional.
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Putin should convert to islam then Europe would give him whatever he wants.
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