If we cannot use their two bases then close the bases and say good luck with Russia when they are at your border.

DeschutesAg said:

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Timberwolf said:

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Lots of thoughts …

They are either scared of Iran and/or leadership supports a barbaric regime.

spend your hard earned dollars somewhere else. The country has put a big you're not welcome mat down for you. Do the people of Spain support such an asinine position?

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Sixty-five days ago, President Trump intentionally lied and publicly insulted the 1200 dead soldiers and the thousands of wounded soldiers and the many tens of thousands of veterans from our NATO allies who served in Iraq and Afghanistan. Maybe you missed seeing it in the news. No other American President in U.S. history would have done something this low. But as we have all seen, Trump can do and say whatever he wants, and his base will still support him, defend him, lie for him, and make excuses for him.

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Now of course we would never call you a hyperbolist or say you were pushing misleading information in the name of Leftism and TDS, but just for the sake of accuracy, why don't you give us the context of what you're alleging so we can determine what if any facts you are leaving out even though we know you wouldn't do that

Is there any good reason for the USA not to withdraw from NATO and let Europe fend for themselves against the Russians or Arabs?

BonfireNerd04 said:

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Is there any good reason for the USA not to withdraw from NATO and let Europe fend for themselves against the Russians or Arabs?

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Nope. Get out of NATO now, and tell all the leeching nations to deal with their own issues. And both get out of the UN and kick them out of our country.