Cdl Pizzaballa barred entrance to Church of Holy Sepulchre by Israeli authorities

5,127 Views | 57 Replies | Last: 13 days ago by Severian the Torturer
Severian the Torturer
How long do you want to ignore this user?
When Mike Huckabee is complaining you know you've gone too far



https://www.nbcnews.com/world/israel/israeli-police-block-catholic-figures-palm-sunday-mass-jerusalem-holy-rcna265669


Another reason why Jerusalem should be considered an international city free from Israeli rule. You cannot stop Catholics from attending our holiest sites on our holiest days.
AGHouston11
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Huckabee could finally decide if he wants to be the US Ambassador or the Ambassador to the US!
Gaeilge
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Not defending Bibi, but all major religious sites have been closed in Israel since the **** started with Iran. They reached out to Cardinal Pizzabella and are making arrangements for him.
BigRobSA
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Severian the Torturer said:

You cannot stop Catholics from attending our holiest sites on our holiest days.


Evidently...you can.
Severian the Torturer
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Gaeilge said:

Not defending Bibi, but all major religious sites have been closed in Israel since the **** started with Iran. They reached out to Cardinal Pizzabella and are making arrangements for him.


Due to the crowds, the patriarch was in a group of 4
The Ex Officio Director
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Severian the Torturer said:

Gaeilge said:

Not defending Bibi, but all major religious sites have been closed in Israel since the **** started with Iran. They reached out to Cardinal Pizzabella and are making arrangements for him.


Due to the crowds, the patriarch was in a group of 4

Well... 3 does make a crowd and 4 is just to many.
Can't decide if I want to be cute & cuddly, or go blow some sh*t up.
Decisions decisions.
BBRex
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Going to those sites isn't any different than going to any other historical place. No reason to get that upset over it.
ErnestEndeavor
How long do you want to ignore this user?
They were going with just a few people to film the Palm Sunday mass to have it broadcast.

The Israeli government has already apologized and it seems to have been a misunderstanding from the security staff.
Ag with kids
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
The Ex Officio Director said:

Severian the Torturer said:

Gaeilge said:

Not defending Bibi, but all major religious sites have been closed in Israel since the **** started with Iran. They reached out to Cardinal Pizzabella and are making arrangements for him.


Due to the crowds, the patriarch was in a group of 4

Well... 3 does make a crowd and 4 is just to many.

50 normal people if attacked - bad

4 people if attacked and one of them is Cardinal Pizzaballa - REALLY bad
HoustonAggie11
How long do you want to ignore this user?
and if the Cardinal was attacked and killed y'all would blame the Jews/Isarel too, they simply cant win.
Sq 17
How long do you want to ignore this user?
The Ex Officio Director said:

Severian the Torturer said:

Gaeilge said:

Not defending Bibi, but all major religious sites have been closed in Israel since the **** started with Iran. They reached out to Cardinal Pizzabella and are making arrangements for him.


Due to the crowds, the patriarch was in a group of 4

Well... 3 does make a crowd and 4 is just to many.


And 5 is Right Out
The Ex Officio Director
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Sq 17 said:

The Ex Officio Director said:

Severian the Torturer said:

Gaeilge said:

Not defending Bibi, but all major religious sites have been closed in Israel since the **** started with Iran. They reached out to Cardinal Pizzabella and are making arrangements for him.


Due to the crowds, the patriarch was in a group of 4

Well... 3 does make a crowd and 4 is just to many.


And 5 is Right Out

A fellow Monty Python fan.
Can't decide if I want to be cute & cuddly, or go blow some sh*t up.
Decisions decisions.
WestAustinAg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Severian the Torturer said:

When Mike Huckabee is complaining you know you've gone too far



https://www.nbcnews.com/world/israel/israeli-police-block-catholic-figures-palm-sunday-mass-jerusalem-holy-rcna265669


Another reason why Jerusalem should be considered an international city free from Israeli rule. You cannot stop Catholics from attending our holiest sites on our holiest days.


Wow. Should we do that to New York too if the Muslims start raising hell there? Make every country give up their most important city if that city sees too much sectarian strife.

I assume Ukraine would have to give up Kiev. China goes back to leaving Hong Kong alone. Mexico gives up Mexico City if the cartels shoot things up.
Severian the Torturer
How long do you want to ignore this user?
WestAustinAg said:

Severian the Torturer said:

When Mike Huckabee is complaining you know you've gone too far



https://www.nbcnews.com/world/israel/israeli-police-block-catholic-figures-palm-sunday-mass-jerusalem-holy-rcna265669


Another reason why Jerusalem should be considered an international city free from Israeli rule. You cannot stop Catholics from attending our holiest sites on our holiest days.


Wow. Should we do that to New York too if the Muslims start raising hell there? Make every country give up their most important city if that city sees too much sectarian strife.

I assume Ukraine would have to give up Kiev. China goes back to leaving Hong Kong alone. Mexico gives up Mexico City if the cartels shoot things up.


You're not a serious person. Jerusalem is the center of the Christian religion.
Rapier108
How long do you want to ignore this user?
*Yawn*

A misunderstanding that was resolved, but never let a chance to bash Israel/Jews go to waste.
TAMUallen
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
BBRex said:

Going to those sites isn't any different than going to any other historical place. No reason to get that upset over it.


That's about the dumbest thing I've read on here in a while
Ag with kids
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Sq 17 said:

The Ex Officio Director said:

Severian the Torturer said:

Gaeilge said:

Not defending Bibi, but all major religious sites have been closed in Israel since the **** started with Iran. They reached out to Cardinal Pizzabella and are making arrangements for him.


Due to the crowds, the patriarch was in a group of 4

Well... 3 does make a crowd and 4 is just to many.


And 5 is Right Out

Armaments, Chapter Two, Verses Nine to Twenty-One.
The Ex Officio Director
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Ag with kids said:

Sq 17 said:

The Ex Officio Director said:

Severian the Torturer said:

Gaeilge said:

Not defending Bibi, but all major religious sites have been closed in Israel since the **** started with Iran. They reached out to Cardinal Pizzabella and are making arrangements for him.


Due to the crowds, the patriarch was in a group of 4

Well... 3 does make a crowd and 4 is just to many.


And 5 is Right Out

Armaments, Chapter Two, Verses Nine to Twenty-One.

And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, 'O Lord, bless this thy hand grenade, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemies to tiny bits. in thy mercy' And the Lord did grin. And the people did feast upon the lambs, and sloths, and carp, and anchovies, and orangutans, and breakfast cereals, and fruit bats...

"And the Lord spake, saying, ''First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.'

And the Lords people said, Amen.
Can't decide if I want to be cute & cuddly, or go blow some sh*t up.
Decisions decisions.
Blackhorse83
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
The Ex Officio Director said:

Ag with kids said:

Sq 17 said:

The Ex Officio Director said:

Severian the Torturer said:

Gaeilge said:

Not defending Bibi, but all major religious sites have been closed in Israel since the **** started with Iran. They reached out to Cardinal Pizzabella and are making arrangements for him.


Due to the crowds, the patriarch was in a group of 4

Well... 3 does make a crowd and 4 is just to many.


And 5 is Right Out

Armaments, Chapter Two, Verses Nine to Twenty-One.

And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, 'O Lord, bless this thy hand grenade, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemies to tiny bits. in thy mercy' And the Lord did grin. And the people did feast upon the lambs, and sloths, and carp, and anchovies, and orangutans, and breakfast cereals, and fruit bats...

"And the Lord spake, saying, ''First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.'

And the Lords people said, Amen.

One, two, five.
Scouts Out
Street Fighter
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Rapier108 said:

*Yawn*

A misunderstanding that was resolved, but never let a chance to bash Israel/Jews go to waste.


If this thread is bashing Jews, then yall are too soft.
Sid Farkas
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Street Fighter said:

Rapier108 said:

*Yawn*

A misunderstanding that was resolved, but never let a chance to bash Israel/Jews go to waste.

If this thread is bashing Jews, then yall are too soft.

Ok, not bashing. Consistently passive aggressive.
Colonel Kurtz
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
The Israeli government completely closed all Christian and Islamic holy sites in Jerusalem today, not even allowing the Cardinal alone into the Church of the Holy Sepulcher for Palm Sunday mass. Meanwhile Jewish holy sites were allowed open for up to 50 people at a time.
samurai_science
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Colonel Kurtz said:

The Israeli government completely closed all Christian and Islamic holy sites in Jerusalem today, not even allowing the Cardinal alone into the Church of the Holy Sepulcher for Palm Sunday mass. Meanwhile Jewish holy sites were allowed open for up to 50 people at a time.

They are better off razing the islamic sites to the ground, everyone would be better off.
Slicer97
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
TAMUallen said:

BBRex said:

Going to those sites isn't any different than going to any other historical place. No reason to get that upset over it.


That's about the dumbest thing I've read on here in a while


You should hang out here more often. It gets way worse.
BlackGold
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Colonel Kurtz said:

The Israeli government completely closed all Christian and Islamic holy sites in Jerusalem today, not even allowing the Cardinal alone into the Church of the Holy Sepulcher for Palm Sunday mass. Meanwhile Jewish holy sites were allowed open for up to 50 people at a time.


Israel is ok with killing Christians and taking their land, so this is actually less extreme than their typical approach, but not surprising. It's unfortunate the Israeli government controls such important Christian holy sites and treats Christians with such contempt.

I think it only became a "misunderstanding" after word got out about the shenanigans they were trying to pull. Glad Huckabee had the stones to actually defend Christians and not the Israeli government in this instance.
Rapier108
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Sid Farkas said:

Street Fighter said:

Rapier108 said:

*Yawn*

A misunderstanding that was resolved, but never let a chance to bash Israel/Jews go to waste.

If this thread is bashing Jews, then yall are too soft.

Ok, not bashing. Consistently passive aggressive.

Exactly. Everyone knows what the purpose of the thread really is.

And it is 100% evident given who has shown up to agree with the thread's premise.
Gaeilge
How long do you want to ignore this user?


Quote:

I have instructed the relevant authorities that Cardinal Pierbattista Pizzaballa, the Latin Patriarch, be granted full and immediate access to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem.

Over the past several days, Iran has repeatedly targeted the holy sites of all three monotheistic religions in Jerusalem with ballistic missiles. In one strike, missile fragments crashed meters from the Church of the Holy Sepulchre.

To protect worshippers, Israel asked members of all faiths to temporarily abstain from worshipping at the Christian, Muslim and Jewish holy sites in Jerusalem's Old City.

Today, out of special concern for his safety, Cardinal Pizzaballa was asked to refrain from holding mass at the Church of the Holy Sepulchre.

Even though I understand this concern, as soon as I learned about the incident with Cardinal Pizzaballa, I instructed the authorities to enable the Patriarch to hold services as he wishes.
TAMUallen
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Netanyahu isn't dumb.

You do not want to irritate the Christians and/or the Vatican during this potentially world changing time of fighting the Islamic terrorists of Iran.
BlackGold
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Gaeilge said:



Quote:

I have instructed the relevant authorities that Cardinal Pierbattista Pizzaballa, the Latin Patriarch, be granted full and immediate access to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem.

Over the past several days, Iran has repeatedly targeted the holy sites of all three monotheistic religions in Jerusalem with ballistic missiles. In one strike, missile fragments crashed meters from the Church of the Holy Sepulchre.

To protect worshippers, Israel asked members of all faiths to temporarily abstain from worshipping at the Christian, Muslim and Jewish holy sites in Jerusalem's Old City.

Today, out of special concern for his safety, Cardinal Pizzaballa was asked to refrain from holding mass at the Church of the Holy Sepulchre.

Even though I understand this concern, as soon as I learned about the incident with Cardinal Pizzaballa, I instructed the authorities to enable the Patriarch to hold services as he wishes.



"It's so unsafe, but after backlash, we decided it was safe"

Bibi is an absolute joke.
NCNJ1217
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I'm no Netanyahu or Israel apologist but his response is pretty damn reasonable and intuitive.
IIIHorn
How long do you want to ignore this user?
The Ex Officio Director said:

Sq 17 said:

The Ex Officio Director said:

Severian the Torturer said:

Gaeilge said:

Not defending Bibi, but all major religious sites have been closed in Israel since the **** started with Iran. They reached out to Cardinal Pizzabella and are making arrangements for him.


Due to the crowds, the patriarch was in a group of 4

Well... 3 does make a crowd and 4 is just to many.


And 5 is Right Out

A fellow Monty Python fan.

Aggie97
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Severian the Torturer said:

When Mike Huckabee is complaining you know you've gone too far



https://www.nbcnews.com/world/israel/israeli-police-block-catholic-figures-palm-sunday-mass-jerusalem-holy-rcna265669


Another reason why Jerusalem should be considered an international city free from Israeli rule. You cannot stop Catholics from attending our holiest sites on our holiest days.


Not just Catholics. The Orthodox Church starts Holy Week next Sunday with our Palm Sunday and culminates with the miracle of the Holy Fire at Church of the Holy Sepulchre. The fire is then flown to Greece and most Orthodox countries including Russia.

Severian the Torturer
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Aggie97 said:

Severian the Torturer said:

When Mike Huckabee is complaining you know you've gone too far



https://www.nbcnews.com/world/israel/israeli-police-block-catholic-figures-palm-sunday-mass-jerusalem-holy-rcna265669


Another reason why Jerusalem should be considered an international city free from Israeli rule. You cannot stop Catholics from attending our holiest sites on our holiest days.


Not just Catholics. The Orthodox Church starts Holy Week next Sunday with our Palm Sunday and culminates with the miracle of the Holy Fire at Church of the Holy Sepulchre. The fire is then flown to Greece and most Orthodox countries including Russia.




Holy Fire is one of the most beautiful traditions of the church. I consider you Catholics anyway.
techno-ag
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
God bless Israel. And God bless Cardinal Pizzaballa.
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
BBRex
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
TAMUallen said:

BBRex said:

Going to those sites isn't any different than going to any other historical place. No reason to get that upset over it.


That's about the dumbest thing I've read on here in a while


If you're not a Christian, then it is a historical site, and nothing more. If you are a Christian, then it is cool to walk the places Jesus walked, but we know he is a risen savior, not confined to a city in Israel.
Page 1 of 2
 
×
subscribe Verify your student status
See Subscription Benefits
Trial only available to users who have never subscribed or participated in a previous trial.