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Dershowitz is claiming there is an ongoing Trump coup attempt by "fascist neo nazis" like Joe Kent and others in the GOP. This is some pretty extreme hyperbole, usually reserved for the left who scream about "Hitler".

We are increasingly seeing the term "antisemite" now being thrown around as loosely as BLM threw around "racist" during Floyd.

Americans skeptical of a new drawn out war in the ME, and question what influences may behind it, are now demonized.

There is also the claim by Dershowitz, Ben Shapiro and others that Israel was against the Iraq war, and didnt influence Bush to regime change Saddam. The actual history outlined below totally refutes that:



If you actually watch this Bibi Iraq speech, the similarities are eerily similar to now. Israel bombed Iraq's nuke facilities, then urged the US to regime change Saddam due to his WMD threat. Midnight Hammer on Iran, now Israel gunning for regime change in Iran.

Ellis Wyatt said:

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I guess I can understand why you're so sensitive about it. Dershowitz is right.

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Your obsession with me is duly noted. Lets get back on topic.

The 5min video about Shapiro and AD claiming its a lie that Israel influenced the Iraq regime change was probably too long for many. So here is a less than 1 min version:

Silent For Too Long said:

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There is legitimate antisemitism on both the right and left right now, and its terrible.

Stop trying to gaslight people that its not happening.

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Is this where an example of a Nick Fuentes or Candace Owens rant gets attributed to Tucker, Meg Kelly, Shawn Ryan, Saagar, Matt Walsh, Joe Kent etc?

Ive been accused here of hating jews. No one can post a single quote of mine that is actually antisemitic either.

This is a great thread to flesh out actual examples with quotes to back up ADs claims got any?

Ive proven already its not at all antisemitic to claim Israel influenced the US to regime change Saddam.

"Trump would have prevented the holocaust" is some serious glazing

"puppet" implies its not his responsibility doing.

Kent is pulling the strings as much as anyone.

ts5641 said:

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Joe Kent's departure was planned. He immediately went on Tucker, Megyn, and spoke with Candace. He's a puppet of the left.

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This minimizes the threat of the Groyper-right...

We have to acknowledge how crazy they are, shame them, and sideline their views to the trash dump of history.

Ellis Wyatt said:

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Joe Kent and Tucker Carlson and others are trying to hijack the right. There is no doubt about that. They don't have conservatives' or America's interests at heart.

Tucker has never been an actual conservative. Nor has Bernie Bro Kent. They are both phonies. It's sad that some people have allowed themselves to be so misled.

I guess I can understand why you're so sensitive about it. Dershowitz is right.

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What about this is good for American interest? 4 dollar gas or turning our middle east friends against us? How about Trump telling Israel not to bomb the natural gas fields and they do it anyway. How is that good for America? If we want to defend Israel great just say that but to act like it somehow helps our interest is incorrect. The nerve or the level of protection someone like Dershowitz has to comment on this situation knowing they were everywhere in the Epstien files just shows you nobody will ever pay for that blackmail scheme.

Yeah, it's all that simple. Higher gas prices are bad, mmmkay.

Maybe geopolitics aren't for you.

Must be a slow news week. Apparently droning on and on about SOH is boring people.

I expect 24/7 coverage of gas prices all week.

Iran has been at war with America since 1979, we just finally had the right opportunity to end it.

Silent For Too Long said:

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Tucker is absolutely an antisemite. And Grandma Groyper is quickly joining him.

Most of the other people you mentioned merely have reasonable objections for the war. Nothing wrong with that.

However, you have to admit that a significant factor for many of the criticisms of anything we do in the ME is directly fueled by antisemitism.

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Somedays I think the most influential anti-semite in the world is George Soros.

Haleyscomet50 said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Joe Kent and Tucker Carlson and others are trying to hijack the right. There is no doubt about that. They don't have conservatives' or America's interests at heart.

Tucker has never been an actual conservative. Nor has Bernie Bro Kent. They are both phonies. It's sad that some people have allowed themselves to be so misled.

I guess I can understand why you're so sensitive about it. Dershowitz is right.

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What about this is good for American interest? 4 dollar gas or turning our middle east friends against us? How about Trump telling Israel not to bomb the natural gas fields and they do it anyway. How is that good for America? If we want to defend Israel great just say that but to act like it somehow helps our interest is incorrect. The nerve or the level of protection someone like Dershowitz has to comment on this situation knowing they were everywhere in the Epstien files just shows you nobody will ever pay for that blackmail scheme.

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Can you provide an accounting of which middle east "friends" are with us and against in this effort to eliminate the Iranian threat? 'Cause I really can tell. But you seem to be an expret

Burdizzo said:

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Silent For Too Long said:

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Tucker is absolutely an antisemite. And Grandma Groyper is quickly joining him.

Most of the other people you mentioned merely have reasonable objections for the war. Nothing wrong with that.

However, you have to admit that a significant factor for many of the criticisms of anything we do in the ME is directly fueled by antisemitism.

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Somedays I think the most influential anti-semite in the world is George Soros.

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Well, he sold his fellow Jews out to the Nazis.

It's funny how the ACTUAL attorney for JE is the expert on foreign policy and all issues related especially when it involves one specific country. Dershowitz is on networks like Newsmax all the time.

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Haleyscomet50 said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Joe Kent and Tucker Carlson and others are trying to hijack the right. There is no doubt about that. They don't have conservatives' or America's interests at heart.

Tucker has never been an actual conservative. Nor has Bernie Bro Kent. They are both phonies. It's sad that some people have allowed themselves to be so misled.

I guess I can understand why you're so sensitive about it. Dershowitz is right.

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What about this is good for American interest? 4 dollar gas or turning our middle east friends against us? How about Trump telling Israel not to bomb the natural gas fields and they do it anyway. How is that good for America? If we want to defend Israel great just say that but to act like it somehow helps our interest is incorrect. The nerve or the level of protection someone like Dershowitz has to comment on this situation knowing they were everywhere in the Epstien files just shows you nobody will ever pay for that blackmail scheme.

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Can you provide an accounting of which middle east "friends" are with us and against in this effort to eliminate the Iranian threat? 'Cause I really can tell. But you seem to be an expret

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Any of them that have been attack. Qatar why didn't the US defend your infrastructure instead they are defending Israel. True or not that will be line. Would that make the feel better or worse about alignment with us? We are either this great power that can defend them but won't or we aren't strong enough to defend them and that shows weakness. Neither are true but it will be the argument made going forward. I don't see how that benefits America.

K2-HMFIC said:

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ts5641 said:

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Joe Kent's departure was planned. He immediately went on Tucker, Megyn, and spoke with Candace. He's a puppet of the left.

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This minimizes the threat of the Groyper-right...

We have to acknowledge how crazy they are, shame them, and sideline their views to the trash dump of history.

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WTF is a "Groyper?"

Haleyscomet50 said:

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Burdizzo said:

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Haleyscomet50 said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Joe Kent and Tucker Carlson and others are trying to hijack the right. There is no doubt about that. They don't have conservatives' or America's interests at heart.

Tucker has never been an actual conservative. Nor has Bernie Bro Kent. They are both phonies. It's sad that some people have allowed themselves to be so misled.

I guess I can understand why you're so sensitive about it. Dershowitz is right.

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What about this is good for American interest? 4 dollar gas or turning our middle east friends against us? How about Trump telling Israel not to bomb the natural gas fields and they do it anyway. How is that good for America? If we want to defend Israel great just say that but to act like it somehow helps our interest is incorrect. The nerve or the level of protection someone like Dershowitz has to comment on this situation knowing they were everywhere in the Epstien files just shows you nobody will ever pay for that blackmail scheme.

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Can you provide an accounting of which middle east "friends" are with us and against in this effort to eliminate the Iranian threat? 'Cause I really can tell. But you seem to be an expret

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Any of them that have been attack. Qatar why didn't the US defend your infrastructure instead they are defending Israel. True or not that will be line. Would that make the feel better or worse about alignment with us? We are either this great power that can defend them but won't or we aren't strong enough to defend them and that shows weakness. Neither are true but it will be the argument made going forward. I don't see how that benefits America.

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So you think foreign countries are too unsophisticated to know the difference between a limited rocket strike and general alignment? It seems pretty unlikely for them to be looking at the current situation and think "Maybe we should look further into aligning with Iran, the US didn't stop one of their missiles from hitting us as they took out their entire navy, army, and air force..."

Democrats have sold out to Islamofascism just like every leftist movement in the West and are 100% consumed by its hatred for Judaism and Israel

Ellis Wyatt said:

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You posted an Op out of guilt. You've been bleeding all over the board with post after post.

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The ridiculous claims by AD in the OP wont age well. Neither will all the knee jerk responses here claiming "the anti-war, jew hating right, are trying to hijack the party".

Myself, and many others here, have consistently claimed the best thing for Trump to do is end the war with air strikes and claim victory for stopping nukes in a larger scale Midnight Hammer 2.0. I repeatedly said that if anyone can reject the DC/AIPAC/MIC pressures to go down the path of regime change, its Trump.

Joe Kent also very clearly urged Trump to end the war and avoid putting Israel's interests to regime change, before the interests of America. Tucker and Meg Kelly basically saying the same thing, also urging for a swift end to the war.

Within hours of this OP, Trump is now posting about a possible swift end to the war. Thats great to see. I hope he can pull it off.

No doubt all those here pushing for Trump to "finally finish the job with a regime change", will just revert back to "Trump saved us from nukes without regime change".

In fact, the common theme on F16 will be that MAGA was never gunning for regime change, and that all they really wanted was larger scale air strikes, for Israel to then take it from there on their own.

Silent For Too Long said:

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Tucker is absolutely an antisemite. And Grandma Groyper is quickly joining him.

Most of the other people you mentioned merely have reasonable objections for the war. Nothing wrong with that.

However, you have to admit that a significant factor for many of the criticisms of anything we do in the ME is directly fueled by antisemitism.

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It certainly is. Very obvious. Those pimping this crap seem to have no idea the world has seen this song and dance before, most recently on a global scale ~1927-1933. Makes you wonder if Gen-z has ever actually studied history. It so sad humanity keeps making the same old mistakes over and over. Its like we never learn a damn thing.

ttu_85 said:

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Silent For Too Long said:

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Tucker is absolutely an antisemite. And Grandma Groyper is quickly joining him.

Most of the other people you mentioned merely have reasonable objections for the war. Nothing wrong with that.

However, you have to admit that a significant factor for many of the criticisms of anything we do in the ME is directly fueled by antisemitism.

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It certainly is. Very obvious. Those pimping this crap seem to have no idea the world has seen this song and dance before, most recently on a global scale ~1927-1933. Makes you wonder if Gen-z has ever actually studied history. It so sad humanity keeps making the same old mistakes over and over. Its like we never learn a damn thing.

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Gen Z wouldn't know history unless it occurred in the last 2 hours.

I get the sense that Qatar, the UAE, and Saudi Arabia have a more mature outlook on Iran than you do.

Short term gas price hikes and damage to infrastructure are tiny things compared to removing the bully from the block who had the capability to do this anytime and who was almost ready to be able to do it with nukes, thanks to Hussein.

Maroon Dawn said:

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Democrats have sold out to Islamofascism just like every leftist movement in the West and are 100% consumed by its hatred for Judaism and Israel

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So true. Can you imagine being a German that really wanted their country to become a constitutional democracy in 1930 ? that really hoped the Weimar Republic would work ? Surrounded by literally Commie Antifa goons on one side and Nazi's on the other. What a hellish world that had to be. I used to feel very confident America would never go down that path, but these days I'm starting to wonder.

Saying " The actual history" then posting a video from Clown Dave Smith is