Hill08 said:

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Over_ed said:

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Cable TV companies are quickly losing audience and are likely to be out of business in the next 5 years or so.

Cable household penetration projects to drop to about 40% at the end of this year, down from 90% in the mid 2010s.

The last remaining customers are largely Boomers, and even they are deserting in droves.

I'll miss the competition. I hate Spectrum with a passion, but the 90 minutes I lose every year threatening cancellation has kept my rates unbelievably low.

Less competition is not a good thing for consumers. Even if it is effin' cable

https://cordcuttersnews.com/the-end-of-cable-tv-why-cable-tv-companies-are-abandoning-tv-at-a-record-pace/

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What do you say to them causing them to lower your rate? I've threatened MANY times but they basically laugh at me

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In general with any paid service (not just cable) you typically have to actually go through the motions like you're actually going to cancel before you get sent to the retentions folks. Also have to be ready to go through with it and wait a few weeks for the "come back to us" offers to start rolling in.

I'm inferring that some of you lunatics pay for multiple subscriptions at once rather than cycle through them as required for whatever content you want.

FrioAg 00 said:

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Somehow "cutting the cord" now means I'm paying for at least dozen damn apps

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Yes, I don't think "cutting the cord" worked out like many people thought it would

Over_ed said:

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TomFoolery said:

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Over_ed said:

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TomFoolery said:

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Confused. If they are losing customers they aren't providing a competitive product so doesn't seem like it would impact competition.

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Actually the opposite. They are trying to hold out as long as possible. DESPERATE

I am getting 2 cell phone lines for $30 total, but total credit on phones is about $60 which they are paying for.
Landline (I know..) $15
500 MB internet $30
Cheap TV package.


It is a pain doing this every year, but best deal around.

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Then why are they bleeding customers and at risk of going out of business?

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Because most customers either don't know to negotiate or don't want to deal with it. They (Spectrum) have changed their ways as of late, guaranteeing good prices for 3 years. Not to sound like a commercial.

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I have at least three options for Internet service beyond Spectrum in my neighborhood. I called and threatened to drop them, and they would not negotiate a few months back. Time Warner used to negotiate. These Spectrum folks are hardasses

It's crazy like they are all working together to make it more confusing and to increase their profits.

Cobra39

basic8 said:

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One Louder said:

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beanbean said:

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My parents and sister and brother in law refuse to believe that streaming services like YT TV and Hulu plus act just like cable where you can choose live TV and watch exactly like you were watching something AT&T Uverse. They think you will constantly be working that remote to choose what to watch with each show. I gave up trying to convince them it's just like you have cable and cancelling, adding channels, or subtracting channels is so quick and easy.

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It's so frustrating, isn't it? I've given up trying to convince my FIL. Maybe if someone started a streaming service called "Old Fartz" with its own remote that only has a power button and a volume/mute button, I could get him on board. All that would be required of the streaming service would be to play a random assortment of old westerns and "The Andy Griffith Show" reruns.

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Why in the world would you get that frustrated over something that trivial? Maybe you're paying for it? Still, let them be comfortable without hatin on old people.

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It's frustrating because he hates commercials more than anyone I've ever met and this would solve that problem for him.

In the meantime, people go to ridiculous lengths to build 90's style cable TV simulators...

HoustonAggie11 said:

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Yes, lets feel bad for cable companies who have overcharged customer for years while providing terrible customer service.

Weird thread.

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Yep…. Wouldn't feel bad at all if my neighbor's big German Shepherd crouched down and laid a big turd on the cable companies- I wonder how many times Comcast's screwed me over the years

I miss peak satellite when you could hack a card and unlock every channel. Still paid for basic subscription for when they would scramble the code, but within a day or two the new hack would be online.

FrioAg 00 said:

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Somehow "cutting the cord" now means I'm paying for at least dozen damn apps

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Yep, which is why we have stuck with DTV through all of this cut-the-cord fiasco. I don't have the time or the patience to manage all of that to save a few bucks. All of our recordings are in one DVR, and I can stream all of the DTV channels from anywhere, even offshore. Works for us.

EclipseAg said:

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I still have cable.

The reason is that I hate sifting through various streaming services to find something to watch. The other reason is that Xfinity has a good portal set-up that makes switching between cable and streaming easy. And the voice-activated remote is a nice add-on.

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I miss the simplicity of xfinity. I moved away from their area and have to stream multiple services to have the same channels at roughly the same price and with much more difficulty.

texsn95 said:

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FrioAg 00 said:

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Somehow "cutting the cord" now means I'm paying for at least dozen damn apps

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Yep, which is why we have stuck with DTV through all of this cut-the-cord fiasco. I don't have the time or the patience to manage all of that to save a few bucks. All of our recordings are in one DVR, and I can stream all of the DTV channels from anywhere, even offshore. Works for us.

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I assume you are using their streaming service, right?

Negative, am not using their streaming service.

texsn95 said:

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FrioAg 00 said:

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Somehow "cutting the cord" now means I'm paying for at least dozen damn apps

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Yep, which is why we have stuck with DTV through all of this cut-the-cord fiasco. I don't have the time or the patience to manage all of that to save a few bucks. All of our recordings are in one DVR, and I can stream all of the DTV channels from anywhere, even offshore. Works for us.

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I was always confused by the term "cord cutting" on the sense of what cord was being cut? Sure, you're severing ties with the cable company. But if you want to watch anything streaming or be more selective about what content you paid for, you still had to pay for Ethernet service or cellular air time (or starlink). The only thing that is still "free" is the terrestrial signal stuff.

I've been a Directv customer for 10 years now and will continue to be one. They're giving me money back to send in boxes I don't use much. I get free subscriptions to tons of packages just for being a loyal customer. I get tons of channels and pay around $100/month. This also allows me to stream from numerous platforms with my Directv login info. When signals go out due to weather now, it just automatically switches you to streaming. There's no delay in broadcasting and you can now stream your services for free, on their app (used to charge you). Streaming is more of a headache and I see not a ton of cost savings. Plus, the channels don't come and go from Directv like they do with streaming options. I'll stay until they go belly up.

Burdizzo said:

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texsn95 said:

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FrioAg 00 said:

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Somehow "cutting the cord" now means I'm paying for at least dozen damn apps

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Yep, which is why we have stuck with DTV through all of this cut-the-cord fiasco. I don't have the time or the patience to manage all of that to save a few bucks. All of our recordings are in one DVR, and I can stream all of the DTV channels from anywhere, even offshore. Works for us.

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I was always confused by the term "cord cutting" on the sense of what cord was being cut? Sure, you're severing ties with the cable company. But if you want to watch anything streaming or be more selective about what content you paid for, you still had to pay for Ethernet service or cellular air time (or starlink). The only thing that is still "free" is the terrestrial signal stuff.

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It was always symbolic. Also, many still get their internet through that same cable while not using the cable company for...cable.

GVTC (my coop and ISP) is same. My "cable" is just a streaming app I can use anywhere, like in hotels or on my phone.

I miss whole home DVR, but get the streaming services from all of the premium channels I'm subscribed to in addition to access via their app.

Logos Stick said:

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I'm paying as much as I did before i cut the cord. And it's more difficult to find programs. Cutting the cord has not delivered what it promised from my perspective.

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You thought the entertainment companies where going to take pay cuts and sell their products for cheaper to the streaming companies?

I don't understand why people care about DVR. We haven't used DVR since TIVO in 2006.

YouBet said:

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I don't understand why people care about DVR. We haven't used DVR since TIVO in 2006.

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It's a generic term for being able to timeshift as desired, it's not a box in the closet. Although it was nice to pause a program in the kitchen and pick right up on the BR. Some programming is convenient, like Gutfeld, we start it recording and then can start as desired and skip commercials. Yes, it's also streamed, but after initial broadcast.

cecil77 said:

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YouBet said:

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I don't understand why people care about DVR. We haven't used DVR since TIVO in 2006.

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It's a generic term for being able to timeshift as desired, it's not a box in the closet. Although it was nice to pause a program in the kitchen and pick right up on the BR. Some programming is convenient, like Gutfeld, we start it recording and then can start as desired and skip commercials. Yes, it's also streamed, but after initial broadcast.

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Yeah, I guess when I hear DVR I just think people recording shows for watching later. I see zero point in that since you can call up content whenever you want from whenever you want.

Wasn't really thinking about DVR in terms of pausing, rewinding, etc.