Poland going after nukes

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This is an interesting development. I wonder if russia will let them or attempt to intervene (not that they have the capability to do anything about it)

This news comes along with the France announcement. It appears to me that some euros are accepting that the world is changing and a nation must take their defense into their own hands
Applied Energy
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seems like something you wouldn't announce, right?

Wouldn't you just go for it, or steal them like the Israeli's did?
Nagler
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Announce it and leave people wondering if you've got them yet.
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What was the France announcement.
Sid Farkas
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If anyone needs nuke deterrence, it's Poland. They have alternately been overrun from the East and West for centuries.
Teslag
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It's not just Poland. Baltic countries are also wanting them.

https://www.politico.eu/article/european-nuclear-deterrence-gathers-steam-munich-security-conference/

Realistically it's not a bad idea, and gives these countries deterrence against Russia without needing to rely on us or NATO.
P.H. Dexippus
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I recommend James Michener's Poland for some entertaining history of the country. The polish peasant has to be one of the most unfortunate birth lottery tickets of recorded human history.
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Teslag said:

It's not just Poland. Baltic countries are also wanting them.

No different than France having them...probably an improvement over status quo.

less than zero chance of technology falling into the wrong hands from these countries.
Vepp
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This won't end terribly...
Teslag
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And let's be honest. These countries have seen what happened to Ukraine when they gave up their nukes for assurances of peace.
Detmersdislocatedshoulder
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where is oprah when you need her?

you get a nuke, you get a nuke, you alllll get nukes

yeaaahhhhhhhhh
K2-HMFIC
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Expect more countries to start building their own nuclear program.

Assume South Korea is coming down the pike soon...
HDeathstar
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Obama Left them hanging to appease Russia. The US should have put nukes there at that time. Probably would have avoided all the Russia expansion over the last 20 years. Strategic location for us.
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Well, there's an old saying….

An armed society, is a polite society….



Let's just terminate the Islamic wing-nuts, and let everybody have nukes. Mutually assured chain reaction destruction.
"Green" is the new RED.
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They are going to build more nukes and will no longer disclose their numbers.
Sid Farkas
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K2-HMFIC said:

Expect more countries to start building their own nuclear program.

Assume South Korea is coming down the pike soon...

If we take care of the radical Islam problem then secure nuclear proliferation may make the world more peaceful. Like allowing citizens to conceal carry.
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I don't see why France needs more nukes, unless the old ones are becoming unreliable. There is no European power right now that can successfully invade France. The Russians probably wouldn't have made it much past the French/German border at their peak strength in the cold war. They wouldn't make it into Germany today. The only thing they could use nukes for is to deter a Russian ballistic missile strike on Paris, but France already has that deterrent (allegedly).
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flakrat said:

What was the France announcement.

They surrendered.
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Crapping on NATO has consequences
Who?mikejones!
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To be fair- its been a mutual crapping
Pichael Thompson
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Why doesn't France just give theirs to Poland?


France is either going to surrender or eventually let their govt be overrun by Muslims anyway


Same case could be made for the fruitloops in britain
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Poland knows they have a Russian threat and all of their neighbors are becoming Muslim
K2-HMFIC
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Sid Farkas said:

K2-HMFIC said:

Expect more countries to start building their own nuclear program.

Assume South Korea is coming down the pike soon...

If we take care of the radical Islam problem then secure nuclear proliferation may make the world more peaceful. Like allowing citizens to conceal carry.



This statement seems to assume that war doesn't occur between countries…
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HDeathstar said:

Obama Left them hanging to appease Russia. The US should have put nukes there at that time. Probably would have avoided all the Russia expansion over the last 20 years. Strategic location for us.

How could you blame the leftist messiah for such a thing? Its not like he did the same thing to Syria and taught the whole Middle East to not give up your WMD's.
"If you are reading this, I have passed on from this world — not as big a deal for you as it was for me."
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Isn't Poland covered as a member of NATO and so effectively has nuclear protection now? I suppose that doesn't give them unilateral capability to use them so it's not exactly the same .
Who?mikejones!
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I think the idea is that even nato membership might not be sufficient.

Logos Stick
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Good...... Nuke up!
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halfastros81 said:

Isn't Poland covered as a member of NATO and so effectively has nuclear protection now? I suppose that doesn't give them unilateral capability to use them so it's not exactly the same .

Would you want your country's existence to depend upon NATO's resolve and its constituents' commitment to joint defense? Are you sure Germany and Britain are willing to send their native or not-so-native sons to defend your borders? Do you think Italy really wants to risk global thermonuclear Armageddon if Russia decides half your country belongs to Greater Russia?
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Applied Energy said:

seems like something you wouldn't announce, right?

Wouldn't you just go for it, or steal them like the Israeli's did?

Link?
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Who?mikejones! said:



This is an interesting development. I wonder if russia will let them or attempt to intervene (not that they have the capability to do anything about it)

This news comes along with the France announcement. It appears to me that some euros are accepting that the world is changing and a nation must take their defense into their own hands

Someone better tell them they don't sell them on eBay.
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After what Russia was allowed to do to Ukraine, I don't blame them one damn bit.
NoahAg
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Does this mean we should preemptively bomb Poland?
FobTies
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Leverage. They want it.
Ramdiesel
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I wish we were going the opposite direction and making nuclear missiles obsolete by creating air defense systems that cannot be penetrated. Like keep improving on the new laser type systems that knocks down missiles...I mean the more countries that have nukes, the more and more likely some idiot is going to use one someday and then the whole world may be hosed.
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