Arms "trade" with Ukraine?

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AColunga07
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With all politics and "rules" (laws), is it possible to do an arms "trade" with Ukraine where they pay off their debt to us by supplying us with tons of cheap drones?

Could we get Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, or Georgia to let us launch drone carrying ships from their ports on the captain sea?

It seems Ukraine has really mastered optimizing "bang for the buck." Depending on which model, our suicide drones are $6-50k on the low end, $100k for a mid tier unit. Comparable Ukrainian models are $100s of dollars on the low end, $10k for mid tier. If we combine that with our ability to completely wipe out their air defenses, it seems they would be very effective. Once take out border security, could we not send in automated vehicles carry drones, protected by drones, more inland to have better access to targets further from the cost with the cheaper low range drones?

It seems we could accomplish the effects boots on the ground without actually putting boots on the ground. We would develop/practice a new generation type warfare (essentially a real life training exercise) at a bargain price.

Ukraine could start exporting to other NATO countries as well and start paying back their debt to us.

Seems like a win win.

Sq 17
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Sound idea
The shareholders of the military industrial complex probably won't go for it

Which probably means our elected officials will not be interested
Ulysses90
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Ukrainian made drones are obviously very cost effective. They innovate and design a lot of good stuff. However, the reason Ukrainian drones are as inexpensive as thay are is because they are mostly built using Chinese components. Almost all of their drone supply chain for the small and cheap stuff traces back to China.

I'm not saying that the US defense industry could or would build them as cheaply as Ukraine does but the 2021 NDAA requirments for supply chain security to remove Chinese components from US military systems is a major reason that US drones cost more.

FWIW, small attack drones used by US forces are now far less than $6k. They aren't yet at the peice point of an artillery projectile but the type of "attritable systems" that would be used to attack a soft skinned vehicle or against infantry is probably down around $1000.
Pichael Thompson
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Trade with scumbag Ukraine?

We should take whatever we want from those thieving ****stains



They owe us everything for all eternity
BigRobSA
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Pichael Thompson said:

Trade with scumbag Ukraine?

We should take whatever we want from those thieving ****stains



They owe us everything for all eternity


K2-HMFIC
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The fact we copied the Shahed from Iran and made a better version of it is some serious irony.

The cost exchange ratios are pretty sick.
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