CIA rescinds or revises 19 intelligence reports over political bias, bad tradecraft

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Ulysses90 said:

You didn't name factions when you insinuated that they were untruthful are stating only the facts that support their partisan agenda. You named John Solomon, Tulsi Gabbard, and John Ratcliffe. Name something untruthful by fact or omission that is stated in this article.


For starters, only 3 of the 19 reports are listed. Why did they choose only those 3? A person has to be naive or willfully in denial not to see why.

Secondly, there is nothing unusual or incorrect in any of the quoted excerpts.

Third, ask yourself why Ratcliffe and Gabbard leaked this to Solomon.

[Edited to correct one typo.]
Ellis Wyatt
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Goodness. Go peddle bull**** somewhere else.

We all remember the lies about Hunter Biden's laptop. We all remember the lies about Russian collusion. We all remember the lies about spying on Trump. None of those things are in question at all. They were made up out of whole cloth and pushed by the people you are defending. Stop it.
Silent For Too Long
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Quote:

Secondly, there is nothing unusual or incorrect in any of the quoted excerpts.


Oh brother. I love how you have gone from "I can't trust any of this information" to "actually its all accurate."

You need to get your talking points straight, comrade.
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Ulysses90 said:

Say it ain't so! Our vaunted CIA professionals were corrupted by political bias? How could this be? In other news, water is wet.

https://justthenews.com/government/security/biased-spies-cia-rescinds-or-revises-19-intelligence-reports-over-political

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In a dramatic repudiation, CIA Director John Ratcliffe on Friday rescinded or revised 19 intelligence reports the agency produced dating back to the Obama era because they were politically biased or used poor spy tradecraft, including one analysis suggesting that women who pursue traditional motherhood were at danger of becoming violent extremists.




I'm skeptical. How could intelligent patriots just blindly buy into this without anyone blowing the whistle? Not one no nonsense boomer or Gen X reached out to Congress? Nothing?
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Silent For Too Long said:

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Secondly, there is nothing unusual or incorrect in any of the quoted excerpts.


Oh brother. I love how you have gone from "I can't trust any of this information" to "actually its all accurate."


Where did I say everything in the article is accurate? I didn't. Just the opposite, in fact. The primary premise of the article -- i.e., "we found 19 reports which are poor tradecraft or politically biased" -- is questionable at best when an objective read of the alleged excerpts in the article from the 3 CIA reports are read.
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dds08 said:

Ulysses90 said:

Say it ain't so! Our vaunted CIA professionals were corrupted by political bias? How could this be? In other news, water is wet.

https://justthenews.com/government/security/biased-spies-cia-rescinds-or-revises-19-intelligence-reports-over-political

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In a dramatic repudiation, CIA Director John Ratcliffe on Friday rescinded or revised 19 intelligence reports the agency produced dating back to the Obama era because they were politically biased or used poor spy tradecraft, including one analysis suggesting that women who pursue traditional motherhood were at danger of becoming violent extremists.




I'm skeptical. How could intelligent patriots just blindly buy into this without anyone blowing the whistle? Not one no nonsense boomer or Gen X reached out to Congress? Nothing?


Whistleblowers were fired and blacklisted as a warning to the rest to remain silent. Consider what happened to Adam Lovinger, Steve Friend, Garrett O'Boyle, and Marcus Allen. They have not been rehired and made whole. That is noticed.
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DeschutesAg said:

Silent For Too Long said:

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Secondly, there is nothing unusual or incorrect in any of the quoted excerpts.


Oh brother. I love how you have gone from "I can't trust any of this information" to "actually its all accurate."


Where did I say everything in the article is accurate? I didn't. Just the opposite, in fact. The primary premise of the article -- i.e., "we found 19 reports which are poor tradecraft or politically biased" -- is questionable at best when an objective read of the alleged excerpts in the article from the 3 CIA reports are read.


So your assessment is that flagging stay at home mom's as violent extremists isn't politically motivated?
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1981 Monte Carlo said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

Obama IS a piece of *****

Many of us were on here screaming from the rooftops when he started talking about "fundamental transformation". Taking the best country and force of good to ever exist in the world, and wanting to completely overhaul or transform it, should have been the ultimate red flag, but too many people were mesmerized by his mocha latte colored skin.

Tweaking things here and there in the pursuit of greatness is a good thing...but you don't take the 2011 or 2020 Alabama football team and just try to completely overhaul it...unless trying to destroy for nefarious purposes.

Obama was elected because of no other purpose than the color of his skin. Don't let the racists who voted for him tell you any different If he was white, he would be confined to the dustbins of history.
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Just to be clear, you think citing websites with headlines like this:
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Dismantling the Cult of the *****; What it Means for Transfeminism and Rape Culture.


Is a legitimate, apolitical, use of our intelligence apparatus?
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Ulysses90 said:

Whistleblowers were fired and blacklisted as a warning to the rest to remain silent. Consider what happened to Adam Lovinger, Steve Friend, Garrett O'Boyle, and Marcus Allen. They have not been rehired and made whole. That is noticed.


Steve Friend FBI.

Fired.

Rehired. To the FBI. By the Trump Administration.

Made whole.

Then fired. Again. This time by Kash Patel.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi-ousts-reinstated-whistleblower-over-unauthorized-media-talks-poor-judgment.amp

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/press/rep/releases/grassley-welcomes-resolution-for-10-fbi-whistleblowers-following-years-of-retaliation

Garret O'Boyle FBI.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/fbi-agent-testified-republicans-was-suspended-leaked-classified-inform-rcna88407

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/gop-witnesses-undermined-jan-6-cases-conspiracy-theories-fbi-says-rcna85095

Rehired and made whole. Though the FBI investigations clearly and substantively indicate he shouldn't have been rehired.

Marcus Allen FBI.

He was suspended, not fired. He was treated very wrongly and unfairly.

His suspension was removed in June 2024, his security clearance was restored, and he received all his back pay. He is still with the FBI, afaik.
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Silent For Too Long said:

Just to be clear, you think citing websites with headlines....

Strawmen attempts are childish.

I'll explain it to you again. When an intelligence analyst is assigned to do an intelligence report on a topic, it follows logically the report will cite excerpts with footnotes from a number of pertinent information sources directly related to the subject matter. That is normal. It doesn't mean the report's author is aligned with the views in the information sources.
Ellis Wyatt
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Keep on defending the crippling of the nation. You're not going to like the right pushing back against the years of corruption.
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