That moment when you realize what it means to no longer be a prince and to be held accountable for your actions.

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Andrew shared confidential information with Epstein as trade envoy, files suggest
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I am convinced that Epstein was running a black mail ring, not for money but for information and connections.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c99j01p1yjro

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I disagree. I think the girls were about currying favor with powerful people and that he didn't have to blackmail them. Men will do a lot of dumb things when a pretty woman is involved. I do agree it was information and money I just think he didn't need to blackmail them.

We're also going to have to come to grips with the fact that pedophile has a definition and it doesn't include teenagers. In the U.S. consent generally ranges from 16-18 and in Europe it's generally 14-18. 16 seems to be the most prevalent. I'm not excusing what he or anyone else did but at this point pedophilia isn't anywhere in the information we've seen. At best you're going to see sex trafficking but I don't know the definition of that from the perspective of someone on the receiving end of those girls. In other words if Bill Clinton had sex with a 17 year old girl in Texas she's legal. That Epstein provided her for him might be trafficking but what does that mean to Clinton? I don't know those answers to be honest.

This isn't as cut and dry as we all want it to be. There's an argument that Epstein trafficked young women of age to wealthy men and those men don't know they were trafficked but rather thought they were prostitutes. Still illegal in the U.S. but on a private island? It's murky.

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This is a sickening definition. Are you even a parent? You okay with a 50 year old man abusing your 13 year old or 14 year old girl? And call him "not a pedo"?

There are children mentioned in the files as young as 9. 9!!!!

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You libs think you're so clever.

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Not a lib. Just a man who wants justice.

BTW that whole lib label thing is so clever too....

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Are there Trump cabinet trade ambassadors in the Epstein files giving away foreign trade details?

Remember y'all, Andrew was only arrested because he out lived his usefulness.

Those like him are protected till they are no longer needed.

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doubledog said:

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Andrew shared confidential information with Epstein as trade envoy, files suggest
8 February 2026

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I am convinced that Epstein was running a black mail ring, not for money but for information and connections.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c99j01p1yjro

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I disagree. I think the girls were about currying favor with powerful people and that he didn't have to blackmail them. Men will do a lot of dumb things when a pretty woman is involved. I do agree it was information and money I just think he didn't need to blackmail them.

We're also going to have to come to grips with the fact that pedophile has a definition and it doesn't include teenagers. In the U.S. consent generally ranges from 16-18 and in Europe it's generally 14-18. 16 seems to be the most prevalent. I'm not excusing what he or anyone else did but at this point pedophilia isn't anywhere in the information we've seen. At best you're going to see sex trafficking but I don't know the definition of that from the perspective of someone on the receiving end of those girls. In other words if Bill Clinton had sex with a 17 year old girl in Texas she's legal. That Epstein provided her for him might be trafficking but what does that mean to Clinton? I don't know those answers to be honest.

This isn't as cut and dry as we all want it to be. There's an argument that Epstein trafficked young women of age to wealthy men and those men don't know they were trafficked but rather thought they were prostitutes. Still illegal in the U.S. but on a private island? It's murky.

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This is a sickening definition. Are you even a parent? You okay with a 50 year old man abusing your 13 year old or 14 year old girl? And call him "not a pedo"?

There are children mentioned in the files as young as 9. 9!!!!

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Slow your roll. There's a massive difference between what would motivate me or you to kill someone in defense of our kids and what the law defines as pedophilia. Words have meaning and don't care about our emotions.

I haven't seen any mention of nine year olds. Can you find that and post it here? I'm being serious, I haven't seen that. That's a much different world than what I have seen which is girls that are teenagers which I believe legally speaking is different than a "child". It just is what it is. If you're in a country where the age of consent is 14 no amount of anger is going to make that act illegal.

All I'm really saying is I've seen nothing that amounts to the actual definition of pedophilia and that's what every is saying this is. If there's 9 year olds involved that's different so let's explore that more. Otherwise we're talking g teenagers and the age of consent matters. That's just a fact.

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Not a lib. Just a man who wants justice.

BTW that whole lib label thing is so clever too....

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Are there Trump cabinet trade ambassadors in the Epstein files giving away foreign trade details?

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To answer you question. Yes, probably so.


This simple binary red-team/blue team thinking is whats wrong with this country (and especially F16)......It's not about one man. It's about the entire system. I don't care if Trump himself is "exonerated". It's about ALL OF THEM.

People like the Clintons who were selling classified documents via the bathroom server and getting paid into the their "charitable foundation".

Epstein was a intel broker if you can't figure it out...... for example - someone asks for info, Epstein hits up Bill or Hillary to negotiate price, Hillary uploads doc to server, Customer downloads it, payment made to Foundation, repeat. And if they get caught, she has the FBI director cover it up.......


More importantly, why are you so desperate to protect pedophiles and people that hate the goyim (hint if you don't wear a tiny hat, you are one)

If he is charged and convicted they should put him in a cell in the Tower of London and let tourists gawk at him every day.

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You libs think you're so clever.

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Not a lib. Just a man who wants justice.

BTW that whole lib label thing is so clever too....

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Are there Trump cabinet trade ambassadors in the Epstein files giving away foreign trade details?

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To answer you question. Yes, probably so.

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Who?

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I haven't seen any mention of nine year olds. Can you find that and post it here? I'm being serious, I haven't seen that. That's a much different world than what I have seen which is girls that are teenagers which I believe legally speaking is different than a "child". It just is what it is. If you're in a country where the age of consent is 14 no amount of anger is going to make that act illegal.

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I have seen mentions of a 9 year old girl. Also, multiple mentions of 11 and 12 year old girls over time.

A quick search for "epstein's youngest victims" found this from https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/epstein-files-doj-raskin-massie-khanna-b2917255.html

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The remaining Department of Justice files on Jeffrey Epstein include the revelation that one of the pedophile's victims was just nine years old and that a senior official in a foreign government was allegedly involved in his sex trafficking network, lawmakers have said.

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"You read through these files, and you read about 15-year-old girls, 14-year-old girls, 10-year-old girls," Raskin said.

"I saw a mention of a nine-year-old girl today. I mean, this is just preposterous and scandalous.

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I haven't seen any mention of nine year olds. Can you find that and post it here? I'm being serious, I haven't seen that. That's a much different world than what I have seen which is girls that are teenagers which I believe legally speaking is different than a "child". It just is what it is. If you're in a country where the age of consent is 14 no amount of anger is going to make that act illegal.

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I have seen mentions of a 9 year old girl. Also, multiple mentions of 11 and 12 year old girls over time.

A quick search for "epstein's youngest victims" found this from https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/epstein-files-doj-raskin-massie-khanna-b2917255.html

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The remaining Department of Justice files on Jeffrey Epstein include the revelation that one of the pedophile's victims was just nine years old and that a senior official in a foreign government was allegedly involved in his sex trafficking network, lawmakers have said.

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"You read through these files, and you read about 15-year-old girls, 14-year-old girls, 10-year-old girls," Raskin said.

"I saw a mention of a nine-year-old girl today. I mean, this is just preposterous and scandalous.

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Wow. Ok. That's worth pursuing as I doubt it legal anywhere in the world. Maybe some Muslim countries. My point I think is that all the calls for arrests have to acknowledge that the law isn't as cut and dried as we want it to be. You and I can find a 50 years old having sex with a 16 year old to be disgusting but in a significant number of states and European nations it's not illegal and that matters.

Thanks for that.

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I am convinced that Epstein was running a blackmail ring, not for money but for information and connections.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c99j01p1yjro

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No other reason why any grown ass man would take as many pictures of his guest as he does. Who took that many pictures other than college females?? I'm convinced it was for blackmail purposes.

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At least someone holds their powerful pedos accountable

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Only the white ones. If you're muslim you are free to rape all the white girls you want.

Probably so? Got proof?

Is that a joke? Charles is doing everything he can to make the native people turn on the monarchy and demand it be abolished. He is effectively a traitor to native British people and the very C of E church he is the head of.

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Are there Trump cabinet trade ambassadors in the Epstein files giving away foreign trade details?

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Nahhh, I'm sure no one in the first Trump Administration or in this second Trump Administration or in Trump's family have done anything like that.

(Yes, that is me being sarcastic.)

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Are there Trump cabinet trade ambassadors in the Epstein files giving away foreign trade details?

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Nahhh, I'm sure no one in the first Trump Administration or in this second Trump Administration or in Trump's family have done anything like that.

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Ok……The question stands. Randy Andy is in trouble for possibly divulging trade secrets. Is there anyone in present or past Trump Administrations that was divulging trade secrets to Epstein?

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Cowards here in the US. Do the right thing

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At this point, I'd go so far as saying our government is conspiring to cover it all up because we're obviously implicated in atrocities.

And I still want it all burned down. Justice should prevail.

Definition of a virgin in Alabama is a 12yo girl who can out run her brothers. Y'all need to force President Trump releasing Alabama email tranche to maintain this feast.Trump 1st AG was Alabamian and Trump visited Alabama and CROSSED STATE LINES.

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Probably so? Got proof?

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Despite Epstein's Toxicity, Steve Bannon Stood by Him, Texts Indicate

Midafternoon in late June 2019, Stephen K. Bannon sent Jeffrey Epstein an excited series of texts. "Dude!!!!!" he wrote. "Is this real Tell me this is real."
Mr. Epstein had just texted him a headline from The Miami Herald. It reported that victims of Mr. Epstein's sexual abuse had lost a court battle to nullify a decade-old agreement that protected him from prosecution for those crimes.
ff and on for months, Mr. Bannon, a leader in the MAGA movement and a former top aide to President Trump, had been advising Mr. Epstein on how to handle resurrected allegations that he was a serial pedophile. Mr. Bannon recommended which lawyers to hire his own when to lie low and when he should jump on an opening to push his narrative. He scheduled what the two men called "media training."

"First we need to push back on the lies; then crush the pedo/trafficking narrative; then rebuild your image as philanthropist," Mr. Bannon wrote to Mr. Epstein in April 2019. That was five months after a Miami Herald series exposed how prosecutors had ignored evidence of Mr. Epstein's crimes.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/16/us/politics/jeffrey-epstein-steve-bannon.html

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Lutnick and Epstein were in business together, Epstein files show

U.S. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick has said he had "limited interactions" with Jeffrey Epstein, but documents show they were in business together as recently as 2014.
Lutnick and Epstein each signed on behalf of limited liability companies that agreed on Dec. 28, 2012, to acquire stakes in a now-shuttered advertising technology company called Adfin, documents released among the so-called Epstein files show.
Epstein and Lutnick's signatures appear on neighboring pages in the contract, with Epstein signing for his Southern Trust Company, Inc. and Lutnick for a limited liability company called CVAFH I. The documents list nine shareholders in total.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/howard-lutnick-jeffrey-epstein-in-business-together/

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Now answer my, question.


Why are you advocating for the protection of pedophiles and criminals?

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Cowards here in the US. Do the right thing

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please provide the list of people that should be arrested and the crimes other than emails

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You must be a Bill Clinton fan boy

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I can't stand the Clintons but did any of the victims accuse him of anything? I'm not reading the Epstein files so fill me in.

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uh- rape?!?!

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Cowards here in the US. Do the right thing

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At this point, I'd go so far as saying our government is conspiring to cover it all up because we're obviously implicated in atrocities.

And I still want it all burned down. Justice should prevail.

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Of course we are. The question is who specifically.

Epstein was an intelligence asset of multiple agencies. Are we protecting ourselves, the UK, Israel, Saudis? More?

The answer is likely yes.