Agree. Trans has always been a mental illness. But like ALL mental illnesses these days, the rise in social media and intentional division by the MSM/politicians has unfortunately encouraged them to act out violently. Their mental illness has been nurtured and encouraged, rather than teaching them coping skills and showing them how their thoughts are misguided.

Really, it's no different than non-trans kids who shoot up schools....they suffer from mental illness and lack coping skills to deal with adversity like humans have done for centuries. Only way they know to get attention is through headlines on social media, and only way they know to resolve conflict is through violence. So while trans is nothing new, society's "embracing" and encouragement of it, coupled with victim mentality and lack of coping, has resulted in the rise in trans violence.

But people refuse to tackle root cause issues. Rather than understanding WHY these people act out violently and fix that, they instead invest their efforts on gun control. It's lazy.

It isn't lazy. Gun control is wanted and favored by those who have created the very problem. They are simply abusing a terrible outcome of their own doing to achieve one of their desired outcomes, ie banning guns

Odd that we over-diagnose mental health in most people, yet completely ignore the obvious mental health crises screaming at us.

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It isn't lazy. Gun control is wanted and favored by those who have created the very problem. They are simply abusing a terrible outcome of their own doing to achieve one of their desired outcomes, ie banning guns

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Ban box cutters and Penske trucks full of fertilizer. Then the libs can talk about banning firearms.

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Ag_of_08 said:

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It never ceases to amaze me how stubbornly yall cling to trans people being a recent phenomenon.

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It never ceases to amaze me that you ignore the societal changes forced upon the normal culture that created the rise of trans murderers.

And I for one, don't think trans lunacy is a recent phenomenon. It has always been a deviant, mentally ill behavior from the beginning of time. The only difference now is the agenda that has encouraged them to take their insanity to the streets....violently, on occasion.

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And try to normalize it.

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It never ceases to amaze me how stubbornly yall cling to trans people being a recent phenomenon.

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Trans, as presented in the modern sense, is a recent phenomenon.

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Ag_of_08 said:

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It never ceases to amaze me how stubbornly yall cling to trans people being a recent phenomenon.

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Trans, as presented in the modern sense, is a recent phenomenon.

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Christine Jorgenson was one of the first MTF trans who became famous. He traveled to Denmark to get the new surgery know as reassignment surgery That was in the early 1950s.

Imo, thats relatively modern

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He is and has admitted such.

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Then I will disengage. No sense in arguing with them.

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No need to put a target on your back.

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Odd that we over-diagnose mental health in most people, yet completely ignore the obvious mental health crises screaming at us.

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"we"? You mean liberals

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Agree. Trans has always been a mental illness. But like ALL mental illnesses these days, the rise in social media and intentional division by the MSM/politicians has unfortunately encouraged them to act out violently. Their mental illness has been nurtured and encouraged, rather than teaching them coping skills and showing them how their thoughts are misguided.

Really, it's no different than non-trans kids who shoot up schools....they suffer from mental illness and lack coping skills to deal with adversity like humans have done for centuries. Only way they know to get attention is through headlines on social media, and only way they know to resolve conflict is through violence. So while trans is nothing new, society's "embracing" and encouragement of it, coupled with victim mentality and lack of coping, has resulted in the rise in trans violence.

But people refuse to tackle root cause issues. Rather than understanding WHY these people act out violently and fix that, they instead invest their efforts on gun control. It's lazy.

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Progressives in the Democrat party encourage mental illness.


Liberal woman have the highest rates of mental health disorders, its well documented, of course they support this.

Maybe it's just me, but I'm thinking that if I work in a gun shop and some hairy chest dude walks in wearing high heels, that just maybe I should not sell him a firearm.
Remember when corporal Klinger was just a funny joke?

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Imo, thats relatively modern

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It is or was. Only Europe was even trying that stuff. So it was kind of a scandal for the time as well.

But as usual Hollywood came calling and put "Christine", in heavy make-up and wig, onscreen. Not porno movies either.

Before transition, he was in the Army during WWII. As a clerk.

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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He is and has admitted such.

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Then I will disengage. No sense in arguing with them.

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No need to put a target on your back.

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In my experience, Ag of 08 has always been a fair poster. I respect that he comes here and gives opinions and isn't just trolling for bans. People can learn from that kind of engagement.

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Maybe it's just me, but I'm thinking that if I work in a gun shop and some hairy chest dude walks in wearing high heels, that just maybe I should not sell him a firearm.
Remember when corporal Klinger was just a funny joke?

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True story. Back in the 90s my roommate and I went to a walmart to buy a Christmas present for her teenaged son. A .22 rifle. She was asked a few questions. (Petite blonde) and as was our wont, we started joking around with the clerk about not working for the post office that our version of home arrest was too hungover to drive, time to order pizza.

IOW, we were joking about hitting every warning sign. Clerk was slightly perturbed at first but was laughing with us at the end. We left with the rifle. Because we were just laughing so much and kept the gag going.

Yea I can joke with my go to FFL but don't joke anywhere else.

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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He is and has admitted such.

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Then I will disengage. No sense in arguing with them.

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No need to put a target on your back.

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In my experience, Ag of 08 has always been a fair poster. I respect that he comes here and gives opinions and isn't just trolling for bans. People can learn from that kind of engagement.

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That's a fair assessment, and my comment wasn't really intended to be aimed at Ag of 08 specifically, but more generically. I apologize if it was taken in that respect.

However, the numerous examples of trans violence in recent history also demonstrate the dangers of disagreeing with that particular subset of the population.

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Ag_of_08 said:

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It never ceases to amaze me how stubbornly yall cling to trans people being a recent phenomenon.

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Trans, as presented in the modern sense, is a recent phenomenon.

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Christine Jorgenson was one of the first MTF trans who became famous. He traveled to Denmark to get the new surgery know as reassignment surgery That was in the early 1950s.

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Trans isn't whats modern.

It's the (forced) treatment of it as normal and something that must be accepted as such. As well as the medical field (at least some segments) not just accepting it but promoting it. They should be held accountable.

It's a mental illness. Period.

And as a very unfortunate tangential issue it has resulted in countless RECENT violent and deadly attacks.

Enough. I'm done tip toeing around the issue. **** them. And **** the doctors that do that. And **** the government that tolerates it in the name of pandering for votes.

forget banning guns.. maybe its time to ban the Drs that are behind all of this, none of this happens if Drs arent allowed to prescribe these people those drugs. sure, you may still have some mentally ill people, but its more than that

I bet if an experiment was done with 50 normal dudes, put them on all those drugs they are taking, most of those regular dudes (or a large portion) would develop all kinds of problems. where is the outrage at the Drs. for doing this. I actually think X is finally exposing all this to those not "in the know", its getting pretty obvious to most of us now

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Agree. Trans has always been a mental illness. But like ALL mental illnesses these days, the rise in social media and intentional division by the MSM/politicians has unfortunately encouraged them to act out violently. Their mental illness has been nurtured and encouraged, rather than teaching them coping skills and showing them how their thoughts are misguided.

Really, it's no different than non-trans kids who shoot up schools....they suffer from mental illness and lack coping skills to deal with adversity like humans have done for centuries. Only way they know to get attention is through headlines on social media, and only way they know to resolve conflict is through violence. So while trans is nothing new, society's "embracing" and encouragement of it, coupled with victim mentality and lack of coping, has resulted in the rise in trans violence.

But people refuse to tackle root cause issues. Rather than understanding WHY these people act out violently and fix that, they instead invest their efforts on gun control. It's lazy.

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Progressives in the Democrat party encourage mental illness.


Liberal woman have the highest rates of mental health disorders, its well documented, of course they support this.

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Mentally ill folks overwhelmingly vote democrat. So it stands to reason, that Democrats would encourage mental illness

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forget banning guns.. maybe its time to ban the Drs that are behind all of this, none of this happens if Drs arent allowed to prescribe these people those drugs. sure, you may still have some mentally ill people, but its more than that

I bet if an experiment was done with 50 normal dudes, put them on all those drugs they are taking, most of those regular dudes (or a large portion) would develop all kinds of problems. where is the outrage at the Drs. for doing this. I actually think X is finally exposing all this to those not "in the know", its getting pretty obvious to most of us now

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Its big business. Vanderbilt surgery center proved that's the real motivation, the continued income streams from the kids long term.

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TAMUallen said:

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It isn't lazy. Gun control is wanted and favored by those who have created the very problem. They are simply abusing a terrible outcome of their own doing to achieve one of their desired outcomes, ie banning guns

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Ban box cutters and Penske trucks full of fertilizer. Then the libs can talk about banning firearms.

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As we have seen in Europe, the best mass mass casualty weapon is a car/truck.

Interviews of one of the heroes who may have prevented this incident from being worse.

A man who tackled a shooter during a deadly attack at a high school hockey game in Pawtucket, Rhode Island, on Monday said he told his wife to run before he "went for the gun."

Emerging details: https://t.co/bFN0lMbJg5 #pawtucket #RhodeIsland #SkatingRink #PawtucketShooting pic.twitter.com/NKiyJKyMm8

— WCVB-TV Boston (@WCVB) February 17, 2026

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Many of the Christians that would ordinarily voice their opposition to the madness are scared to death that they or their businesses and livelihoods will be cancelled if they speak up. That's why we need the gay community to step up and disown the Trans movement.

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I'm a Christian and am not scared of this at all. I know what is happening here. I will look to my church for guidance over the gay community.

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Agree. Trans has always been a mental illness. But like ALL mental illnesses these days, the rise in social media and intentional division by the MSM/politicians has unfortunately encouraged them to act out violently. Their mental illness has been nurtured and encouraged, rather than teaching them coping skills and showing them how their thoughts are misguided.

Really, it's no different than non-trans kids who shoot up schools....they suffer from mental illness and lack coping skills to deal with adversity like humans have done for centuries. Only way they know to get attention is through headlines on social media, and only way they know to resolve conflict is through violence. So while trans is nothing new, society's "embracing" and encouragement of it, coupled with victim mentality and lack of coping, has resulted in the rise in trans violence.

But people refuse to tackle root cause issues. Rather than understanding WHY these people act out violently and fix that, they instead invest their efforts on gun control. It's lazy.

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Progressives in the Democrat party encourage mental illness.


Liberal woman have the highest rates of mental health disorders, its well documented, of course they support this.

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Progressives haven't, in effect, encouraged mental illness; what they they have encouraged has been godlessness, immorality (or moral relativism), and other isms - postmodernism, feminism, nihilism, neo-Marxism, egalitarianism.

With that came a loss of faith, purpose, belief, and gratitude, in our history, our country, our system of government, our institutions, our neighbors, our families, and ourselves.

What filled the void has been nothing short of chaos. People have became gods unto themselves, of whom the Apostle Paul described as not enduring sound doctrine but after their own lusts and turning away their ears from the truth.

This corruption in life is comfortably explained as mental illness, in which case surely science can provide the cure, or technical fix - if we can just alter a brain chemical or use behaviorism to change motivation and desire (Clockwork Orange) we will solve the problem.

But we haven't have we?

What you see as mental illness is just a symptom of a sick and decaying culture which has abandoned those beliefs and practices that brought us peace and prosperity, notwithstanding our flaws.


To quote from literature:

Canst thou not minister to a mind diseas'd,
Pluck from the memory a rooted sorrow,
Raze out the written troubles of the brain,
And with some sweet oblivious antidote
Cleanse the stuff'd bosom of that perilous stuff
Which weighs upon the heart?


Therein the patient
Must minister to himself.


"There is no technical fix for the problems of humanity" (Dalrymple) and in my estimation a significant problem today is people having given themselves over to unsound doctrine thereby becoming lost. Really lost.

And, personally, I left direct service because I can't fix that.

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Many of the Christians that would ordinarily voice their opposition to the madness are scared to death that they or their businesses and livelihoods will be cancelled if they speak up. That's why we need the gay community to step up and disown the Trans movement.

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There are those in the trans community that try to speak out. Problem is, they get doxed, threatened, kicked off social media and are hated more by their own kind. Many have spoken out on tiktok, instagram and facebook only for their accounts to be taken down.

Even gays who have come againts the trans community face the same backlash if not worse. The liberals have infested themselves into the internet and will dox anyone who dares speak out againts their chosen people.

I've been banned several times on tiktok speaking out againts trans people. Now I spend my time supporting others who speak out.

So trans are the new Muslims...

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So trans are the new Muslims...

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For now, until a new group is formed

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Ag_of_08 said:

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It never ceases to amaze me how stubbornly yall cling to trans people being a recent phenomenon.

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Trans, as presented in the modern sense, is a recent phenomenon.

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Christine Jorgenson was one of the first MTF trans who became famous. He traveled to Denmark to get the new surgery know as reassignment surgery That was in the early 1950s.

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Trans isn't whats modern.

It's the (forced) treatment of it as normal and something that must be accepted as such. As well as the medical field (at least some segments) not just accepting it but promoting it. They should be held accountable.

It's a mental illness. Period.

And as a very unfortunate tangential issue it has resulted in countless RECENT violent and deadly attacks.

Enough. I'm done tip toeing around the issue. **** them. And **** the doctors that do that. And **** the government that tolerates it in the name of pandering for votes.

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In less than a week, eight people were murdered in two separate public shootings one in a Canadian public school and another in Rhode Island committed by two self-identified transgender women (biological men).

The back-to-back massacres have reignited allegations from conservative pundits that transgender ideology and individuals are more prone to violence and that the reason that transgender people engage in mass shootings is explicitly tied to their incongruent gender identity.

in May 2019, two perpetrators, Devon Michael Erickson, 18, and transgender boy Alec McKinney,16, legally known as Maya Elizabeth McKinney, carried out a mass shooting at their high school STEM School Highlands Ranch in Colorado. Alec explicitly stated she was explicitly targeting two students because they had bullied her for her gender ideology. She also said she suffered from homicidal and suicidal thoughts since she was 12 but refused to take medication.

The other mass shootings listed include the March 2023 shooting at The Covenant School by Aiden Hale, a transgender man formerly known as Aubrey Hale. She killed three children.
In November 2022, Anderson Lee Aldrich, who identified as nonbinary, opened fire inside a gay bar in Colorado Springs, killing five people.

And in 2018, a transgender man named Snochia Mosley, who also suffered from bipolar disorder, killed three co-workers at a Rita Aid warehouse in Maryland. She started hormone therapy a year prior to the shooting,
Troi Coley, a close friend of Mosley, told the Washington Post at the time that she was going through a "terrible time" with the hormones.

https://komonews.com/news/nation-world/back-to-back-shootings-prompt-reflection-on-history-of-trans-mass-killers-robert-dorgan-school-shooters-charlie-kirk-mental-illness-gun-safety-bipoloar-rhode-island-canada?teaserSource=trending

There is clearly a pattern of transgender women (biological men) engaging in mass shootings. This is why "normalizing" transgenderism is very dangerous because these people have emotional instability that endangers themselves and others around them.

Need the anti gun liberals to admit that it's time to ban trans.

Both can be true at the same time, Godlessness at wide scale AND advocating normalization of mental illness at a direct and more direct way. It's the Godlessness that leads them to do it.

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It never ceases to amaze me how stubbornly yall cling to trans people being a recent phenomenon.

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It was called cross dressing until about 10 years ago.

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Ag_of_08 said:

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It never ceases to amaze me how stubbornly yall cling to trans people being a recent phenomenon.

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It was called cross dressing until about 10 years ago.

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Yeah...no try again. It may not have been as main stream, but i know a great many people out much longer than a decade.

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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He is and has admitted such.

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Then I will disengage. No sense in arguing with them.

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No need to put a target on your back.

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In my experience, Ag of 08 has always been a fair poster. I respect that he comes here and gives opinions and isn't just trolling for bans. People can learn from that kind of engagement.

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That's a fair assessment, and my comment wasn't really intended to be aimed at Ag of 08 specifically, but more generically. I apologize if it was taken in that respect.

However, the numerous examples of trans violence in recent history also demonstrate the dangers of disagreeing with that particular subset of the population.

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I don't engage often on the topic anymore( theres a degree of burnout with the shouting matches here), but I've never objected to honest discussion. As to your assertion about danger... I find it hyperbolic and myopic, but that's your choice as a world view.... but you certainlt don'tneed to be concerend about me. There are several trans people who post here, some of them more frequently than you think btw, they just don't talk about it

I'm also not ever trolling to see someone banned, even if my posts get a touch drive by at times( I genuinely forget about half the time, or the train starts rolling in response and just dont feel like re-enagaging.....having a family and people im responsible for has taken some of the internet fight out of me). Negative or positive, any complaint on the engagement generally isnt coming from me. Ive also noticed the current mods are playing referee quite well lately, and a lot of the... more heated replies are just being deleted. I've started taking that as very clear feedback from moderation.

Appreciate the compliment BTW Ellis!