Saving Democracy: NM SOS disqualifies Republicans from the ballot senate

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KentK93
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The Democrats are saving democracy again:

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The New Mexico Secretary of State disqualified the Republican candidate for US Senate and two other Republicans from the ballot for "not meeting the requirements" for ballot access. The one Democrat who was disqualified was running against an incumbent.




https://hotair.com/david-strom/2026/02/12/nm-sos-disqualifies-republican-from-ballot-for-senate-leaving-only-the-democrat-on-the-ballot-n3811835




Burrus86
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Rapier108
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Corrupt ****hole state.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
flown-the-coop
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From the article, it indeed appears the NM SOS provided no public reasoning.

This indeed will continue to be a dem strategy to continue electioneering.

Imagine if the SAVE act passes and stands the next issue will be them telling folks their ID is not valid to vote if they appear to be voting for the wrong team - so people with normal hair color, dressed in something other than stirrup pants and a jogging bra, if someone has recently bathed, clean shaven and lack nose piercings, those people will be told "no vote for you, ID no good."

Dems have been win at all costs. Time for Rs to step back up to the plate.
HTownAg98
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Other sources are saying it was because they didn't submit enough valid signatures. That goes for all three of them. https://www.abqjournal.com/news/four-new-mexico-candidates-disqualified-after-failing-to-meet-ballot-requirements/2978003
flown-the-coop
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HTownAg98 said:

Other sources are saying it was because they didn't submit enough valid signatures. That goes for all three of them.


Well there it is. No need to look any further. NM SOS says so, Dems win.

How many of those signatures were disqualified? And usually there is a process to cure the deficit. Was that not offered?

Funny how libs cannot verify signatures for ballots, just for ballot petitions when they don't like the candidate / perceive a threat.
Ellis Wyatt
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HTownAg98 said:

Other sources are saying it was because they didn't submit enough valid signatures. That goes for all three of them. https://www.abqjournal.com/news/four-new-mexico-candidates-disqualified-after-failing-to-meet-ballot-requirements/2978003
What is the SOS saying? Doesn't resemble any democracy I'm familiar with.
HTownAg98
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If you would read the article, it would say why. it comes straight from the SOS.

For those asking, here's the requirements in New Mexico. https://www.sos.nm.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/2026-Primary-Candidate-Guide-Updated.pdf
BusterAg
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So, let me get this straight.

For election law, you have to have signatures for:

1) getting on the ballot in a state run by a dem SOS.

But not for:

1) Mail in ballots
2) The envelopes on the outside of mail in ballots
3) Election tabulator machine daily count sheets, which would normally require two signatures from witnesses as well.

How come when something like this happens to a Dem, it is easily "cured", but when something like this happens to the GOP, it is automatically and irreversibly fatal?

Second question:
Under what grounds were the signatures rejected? If the SOS is making the determination which signatures to reject, couldn't he just reject as many as he needed to for everyone but the person he wants to win? That sure seems to be the case here.
MouthBQ98
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The left knows they can chest or pull delaying tactics and legal games until after an election actually occurs and then a judge will rule it is too late to contest the outcome.
PCC_80
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Dems/Libs really do not seem to care that they look corrupt or are cheating.

Sadly their voters do not seem to care either. Unfortunately their voters are often being screwed over by the corrupt cheaters that they vote for.
flown-the-coop
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You just need to trust that the Dem SOS in NM followed the posted manual. Trust, but no verification. Why would you need verification? You have no standing to ask for verification. Case dismissed.
Ellis Wyatt
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HTownAg98 said:

If you would read the article, it would say why. it comes straight from the SOS.

The SOS should just make up criminal charges against the candidates and change laws to prosecute them. Then they can deny being on the ballot for "criminal" reasons. Almost worked against Trump.

This is what democrat socialism looks like. Everything is good as long as you agree with me.
Ellis Wyatt
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PCC_80 said:

Dems/Libs really do not seem to care that they look corrupt or are cheating.

Sadly their voters do not seem to care either.

The democrat party is a post-constitutional party.
flown-the-coop
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Cue the "I am just presenting what happened and what the requirements are". Some folks only express opinions or interpretations when its convenient to their political bias. When its not, they sheepishly hide from any rationale discussion. That has been my experience with folks like that.
TexasAggiesWin
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DeschutesAg
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HTownAg98 said:

If you would read the article, it would say why. it comes straight from the SOS.

For those asking, here's the requirements in New Mexico. https://www.sos.nm.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/2026-Primary-Candidate-Guide-Updated.pdf


Thanks for posting these.
flown-the-coop
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DeschutesAg said:

HTownAg98 said:

If you would read the article, it would say why. it comes straight from the SOS.

For those asking, here's the requirements in New Mexico. https://www.sos.nm.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/2026-Primary-Candidate-Guide-Updated.pdf


Thanks for posting these.

Why? Do you have any additional details that actually makes these guidelines relevant?
BusterAg
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DeschutesAg said:

HTownAg98 said:

If you would read the article, it would say why. it comes straight from the SOS.

For those asking, here's the requirements in New Mexico. https://www.sos.nm.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/2026-Primary-Candidate-Guide-Updated.pdf


Thanks for posting these.

But, these are rules, not laws. Since they are not specifically legal code, they are optional, right? I mean, the SOS can choose to follow them or not, because they are not literally the law. Correct?

HTownAg98
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BusterAg said:

DeschutesAg said:

HTownAg98 said:

If you would read the article, it would say why. it comes straight from the SOS.

For those asking, here's the requirements in New Mexico. https://www.sos.nm.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/2026-Primary-Candidate-Guide-Updated.pdf


Thanks for posting these.

But, these are rules, not laws. Since they are not specifically legal code, they are optional, right? I mean, the SOS can choose to follow them or not, because they are not literally the law. Correct?



Wrong. It's a reference guide for candidates that is put together based on New Mexico's election code. You can find all the citations here. https://api.realfile.rtsclients.com/PublicFiles/ee3072ab0d43456cb15a51f7d82c77a2/b3415b23-03d0-4ed9-8efa-861e5acf1bbc/2025%20NM_Election_Handbook_SOS%201.pdf
flown-the-coop
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flown-the-coop said:

Cue the "I am just presenting what happened and what the requirements are". Some folks only express opinions or interpretations when its convenient to their political bias. When its not, they sheepishly hide from any rationale discussion. That has been my experience with folks like that.

Feels like this needs repeating.

Zero evidence presented thus far showing how these candidates did not comply and why no remedy was offered. Just keep all off the ballot who pose a threat to free and fair elections.
Ellis Wyatt
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Colorado was "just trying to follow the law" when they were going to keep Donald Trump off the presidential ballot.

Democrats are used to having the party make all their choices. They like it that way.
Dorm 15
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First, I want to thank everyone on this forum. While I rarely post here it is always a good read. Next, I live in NM and while not actively involved in politics anymore I try to stay informed. While I enjoy reading "conspiracy conjecture" this is not the case. The individual failed to secure enough valid signatures for the Republican Primary Ballot. In an interview with the Rio Rancho newspaper he acknowledged the fact. He listed lack of organization and resources for his shortcomings. Visiting the New Mexico Republican Party website this morning there is no mention of this news item. So, what does this tell me. NMRP is not going to challenge Ben Ray Lujuan. There are many good choices, Crystal Brantley would be mine, but my guess given the current political climate she would lose. Now with that being out of the way what I don't quite understand is why the NMRP does not appear to be making a serious run at the Governorship. The Democrat favorite is not a strong candidate and a strong, well funded Republican, could be beaten. BTW, there is still a mechanism for the Rio Rancho Republican to qualify for the the Republican Primary Ballot. Joe Skeen, now deceased, a good Ag and friend won the 2nd Congressional District as a write-in candidate.
Ag CPA
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The NM GOP is a **** show and has been for a number of years now.
BusterAg
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HTownAg98 said:

BusterAg said:

DeschutesAg said:

HTownAg98 said:

If you would read the article, it would say why. it comes straight from the SOS.

For those asking, here's the requirements in New Mexico. https://www.sos.nm.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/2026-Primary-Candidate-Guide-Updated.pdf


Thanks for posting these.

But, these are rules, not laws. Since they are not specifically legal code, they are optional, right? I mean, the SOS can choose to follow them or not, because they are not literally the law. Correct?



Wrong. It's a reference guide for candidates that is put together based on New Mexico's election code. You can find all the citations here. https://api.realfile.rtsclients.com/PublicFiles/ee3072ab0d43456cb15a51f7d82c77a2/b3415b23-03d0-4ed9-8efa-861e5acf1bbc/2025%20NM_Election_Handbook_SOS%201.pdf

I am going to need you to cite in the actual legal code where the signatures are required for candidates, and that the SOS has the ability to invalidate signatures.

You can't rely on rules set up agencies, you have to rely on the actual code, because some rules require strict adherence, and other rules are simply guidelines that are nice to follow when you want to.
Dorm 15
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Ag CPA said:

The NM GOP is a **** show and has been for a number of years now.

I very respectfully disagree. The 2nd District is a conservative district and until redrawn Republican.
KingofHazor
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Dorm 15 said:

Ag CPA said:

The NM GOP is a **** show and has been for a number of years now.

I very respectfully disagree. The 2nd District is a conservative district and until redrawn Republican.

Shouldn't you have used the word "was" instead of "is"?

The 2nd District also used to have a very highly organized Republican Party. Colin McMillan and others had it well organized. How are their successors doing? Joe Skeen couldn't have won as a write-in without the assistance of a well-organized Party. (You neglected to mention that he was an Ag, also!)

I no longer live in NM but from afar it seems that the Republican Party there is putting forth silly and non-serious candidates. What happened?
Ag CPA
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I know, Trump got 46% in NM so there are plenty of Republicans. I am referring to not fielding competitive candidates, not contesting weak incumbents like Grisham and Lujan, lack of organization.
The Collective
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Is it possible the GOP screwed up here? It seems like an easy bar to clear to be qualified.
Dorm 15
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My District is conservative just not as conservative before redrawn. Read my post again and you will see my mentioning Joe being a good Ag. Gabe Vasquez won a very close race only because the district was redrawn. Harry Teague won it as a Democrat but he was more conservative than many Republicans.
HTownAg98
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BusterAg said:

HTownAg98 said:

BusterAg said:

DeschutesAg said:

HTownAg98 said:

If you would read the article, it would say why. it comes straight from the SOS.

For those asking, here's the requirements in New Mexico. https://www.sos.nm.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/2026-Primary-Candidate-Guide-Updated.pdf


Thanks for posting these.

But, these are rules, not laws. Since they are not specifically legal code, they are optional, right? I mean, the SOS can choose to follow them or not, because they are not literally the law. Correct?



Wrong. It's a reference guide for candidates that is put together based on New Mexico's election code. You can find all the citations here. https://api.realfile.rtsclients.com/PublicFiles/ee3072ab0d43456cb15a51f7d82c77a2/b3415b23-03d0-4ed9-8efa-861e5acf1bbc/2025%20NM_Election_Handbook_SOS%201.pdf

I am going to need you to cite in the actual legal code where the signatures are required for candidates, and that the SOS has the ability to invalidate signatures.

You can't rely on rules set up agencies, you have to rely on the actual code, because some rules require strict adherence, and other rules are simply guidelines that are nice to follow when you want to.

You are insufferable. It's pretty well known that the Secretary of State is the person/entity that is in charge of certifying that candidates are eligible to be placed onto a ballot. The laws are cited in those documents, but you seem to be too lazy to look them up yourself.
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I am going to need you to cite in the actual legal code where the signatures are required for candidates,

A. As used in this section, "total vote" means the sum of all votes cast for all of the party's candidates for governor at the last preceding primary election at which the party's candidate for governor was nominated.
B. Candidates who seek preprimary convention designation shall file nominating petitions at the time of filing declarations of candidacy. Nominating petitions for those candidates shall be signed by a number of voters equal to at least two percent of the total vote of the candidate's party in the state or congressional district, or the following number of voters, whichever is greater: for statewide offices, two hundred thirty voters; and for congressional candidates, seventy-seven voters.
C. Nominating petitions for candidates for any other office to be voted on at the primary election for which nominating petitions are required shall be signed by a number of voters equal to at least the greater of:
(1) for the public education commission, two percent of the total vote of the candidate's party in the district; for judicial candidates, two percent of the total vote of the candidate's party in the district or division; and for all other candidates, three percent of the total vote of the candidate's party in the district; or
(2) for metropolitan court and magistrate courts, ten voters; for the public education commission, twenty-five voters; for state representative, ten voters; for state senator, seventeen voters; and for district attorney and district judge, fifteen voters.
https://law.justia.com/codes/new-mexico/chapter-1/article-8/section-1-8-33/
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and that the SOS has the ability to invalidate signatures.

This one is a little bit more complicated, because first we have to define who is the "proper filing officer." for statewide elections, it's the secretary of state.
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As used in the Election Code, "proper filing officer" means, for the purposes of filing:
A. reports required by the Campaign Reporting Act [1-19-25 to 1-19-36 NMSA 1978] and the School District Campaign Reporting Act [1-22A-1 to 1-22A-10 NMSA 1978], the secretary of state;
B. declarations of candidacy and candidate qualification documents by any candidate for statewide or federal office, the secretary of state; and
C. declarations of candidacy and candidate qualification documents by all other candidates, the county clerk of the county in which the candidate resides.


https://law.justia.com/codes/new-mexico/chapter-1/article-1/section-1-1-5-9/
Finally, we get to who certifies each candidate.
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D. No name shall be placed on the ballot until the person has been notified in writing by the proper filing officer that the certificate of registration on file, the declaration of candidacy and the petition, if required, are in proper order and that the person, based on those documents, is qualified to be a candidate. The proper filing officer shall mail the notice no later than 5:00 p.m. on the Tuesday following the filing date.

https://law.justia.com/codes/new-mexico/chapter-1/article-8/section-1-8-26/

There's other stuff in this document that outlines what all is supposed to be required for signatures, but I don't have the time to go through all of that. If you want to do it, knock yourself out.
DeschutesAg
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Good post and good information. Thanks for being honest and objective.
Tramp96
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Dorm 15 said:

First, I want to thank everyone on this forum. While I rarely post here it is always a good read. Next, I live in NM and while not actively involved in politics anymore I try to stay informed. While I enjoy reading "conspiracy conjecture" this is not the case. The individual failed to secure enough valid signatures for the Republican Primary Ballot. In an interview with the Rio Rancho newspaper he acknowledged the fact. He listed lack of organization and resources for his shortcomings. Visiting the New Mexico Republican Party website this morning there is no mention of this news item. So, what does this tell me. NMRP is not going to challenge Ben Ray Lujuan. There are many good choices, Crystal Brantley would be mine, but my guess given the current political climate she would lose. Now with that being out of the way what I don't quite understand is why the NMRP does not appear to be making a serious run at the Governorship. The Democrat favorite is not a strong candidate and a strong, well funded Republican, could be beaten. BTW, there is still a mechanism for the Rio Rancho Republican to qualify for the the Republican Primary Ballot. Joe Skeen, now deceased, a good Ag and friend won the 2nd Congressional District as a write-in candidate.

Sounds to me that the NMRP is neither well-funded nor well-organized.

Like G5 NIL.
BusterAg
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Thanks for all of that. It was actually a facetious question, and wasn't really directed at you.

I think that the idea that rules and regulations codified by a state are actually optional for agencies to follow is an extremely stupid position to take, even when others take that position.

I will make the comment that no where in your post is there legal code specifically giving the SOS the right to determine that certain signatures are invalid.
KingofHazor
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You're right and my apologies. One of my many, many weaknesses is that I read too fast and miss many important details.
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