Suddenly my FB feed is full of posts from him complaining about not being on some sort of Veterinary board.

I don't know this guy or what the back story is. Can someone edumacate me?

Take it to the Veterinary board

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Suddenly my FB feed is full of posts from him complaining about not being on some sort of Veterinary board.

I don't know this guy or what the back story is. Can someone edumacate me?

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What happened is more TexasScoreCard and Abbott sticking their nose in a place it doesn't belong just to "own a lib."

Rogers (old Agg) was an R state rep who opposed Abbott's billions of dollars voucher program so Abbott used part of the $20 million the out-of-state voucher grifters gave him to primary him out of office. His district is west Fort Worth area -- Mineral Wells and Stephenville. Many of the new suburban voters who just moved there believed all of the text messages they received instructing them that Rogers was a RINO liberal satan unworthy of representing them and elected Mike Olcott, throwing Rogers out of office.

Abbott's money was used against similar rural R reps who opposed his voucher scheme like Stan Lambert in Abilene and my rep Drew Darby in San Angelo. The Abbott gambit didn't work in these two districts because they are not (yet) overrun by urban ignorance. Lambert narrowly defeated Liz Case, a carpetbagger from DFW area who had a vacation home near Coleman. Otherwise she didn't live in her district. In San Angelo, Darby soundly defeated a lingerie model named Stormy Bradley who had not paid her property taxes and was delinquent.

So, one can say Olcott wasn't as terrible candidate as Case or Bradley, and that helped defeat Rogers in addition to the urban sprawl creeping into Rogers' district.

Now, Abbott doesn't want Rogers to vet or help vet school candidates for admission to A&M.

He was a state rep for Palo pinto area. His district got redistricted to include parker county. The parker county republican club heavily endorsed mike Alcott. Olcott supported by odessa/ midlands big oil guys.
Roger's lost because he was anti- voucher. He thinks rural schools will be hurt by vouchers.
Also palo pinto and the surrounding area possum Kingdom have water issues. I forget where he stands on that.

He is an aggie vet.
He started writing columns for newspapers, etc. After he was defeated.

Glen is a good person. He's an old Ag and an "old school" rural county conservative. Rancher and DVM up around Palo Pinto county. Served in the state legislature for awhile. Has deep hands-on expertise in vet medicine, cows, ranching. Even taught vet med somewhere.

I forget the exact name of the org or PAC funded by the billionaires who are connected at the hip with Paxton, Abbott, and that crowd. Texas Scorecard or something like that.
My understanding is they don't like Glen because he is honest and because he opposed vouchers since many rural public schools in Tx will be negatively affected by them.

Glen was asked to serve on some kind of A&M vet medicine committee. He said yes. Then that Scorecard group heard about it. They pulled strings, and voila, the A&M interim university president withdrew the invite.

To my generation of old greyhaired rural-county-raised Ags, that is not how the A&M we knew back in the 1960s & 1970s operated. But Ags like Earl Rudder, Bum Bright, and Dick Hervey who could place a single phone call and stop such shenanigans are long gone.

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To my generation of old greyhaired rural-county-raised Ags, that is not how the A&M we knew back in the 1960s & 1970s operated. But Ags like Earl Rudder, Bum Bright, and Dick Hervey who could place a single phone call and stop such shenanigans are long gone.

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a lingerie model named Stormy Bradley

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Let me save others the time of an image search.

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Let me save others the time of an image search.

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Here are some of them (NSFW)

The hit piece from Texas Scorecard on Glenn Rogers is here.

Full Breed feed?

Just Abbott being Abbot. It's truly a shame what that man and his minions are doing to Texas Politics.

As a veterinarian, it's extremely hard to think of any vets who'd be more qualified than Rogers to serve on the committee.

We also need this program if we're going to even make a dent in the veterinary supply issue in rural areas. And you need people to manage that program effectively. The money to fund it is limited and needs to be targeted to students who will serve the areas that need it the most. They work with Techs school, and a major stated purpose for tech getting a school was to alleviate rural vet shortages. Can't do that if people aren't incentivized, with the amount of student loan debt grads are coming out with.

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The hit piece from Texas Scorecard on Glenn Rogers is here.

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Did you mean to link to something else? I'm not seeing anything that would even remotely be considered a hit piece there. It's far and away more factual based than your previous diatribe in this thread.

"Roger's lost because he was anti- voucher. He thinks rural schools will be hurt by vouchers." - and Rogers is 100% correct about this. The school voucher program is the most idiotic, unforced error ever by Texas Republicans, and that's saying something.

I'm a lifelong Republican, and if we live in a day and age where someone can convince voters that Glenn Freaking Rogers isn't conservative enough...then we're in big trouble.

Yes. I am just saying the voucher was the biggest thing in the campaign. Rogers got hurt because of redistricting. He got switched to parker county and had to deal with weatherford, aledo and western Tarrant county ideology- no more rural county residents. Olcott went all in on the vouchers oil guys Dunn and wilks heavily supported him.

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"Roger's lost because he was anti- voucher. He thinks rural schools will be hurt by vouchers." - and Rogers is 100% correct about this.

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Not arguing, but looking for answers....

Could you explain why the vouchers would hurt rural schools? I've heard that said, but haven't seen how it will hurt them specifically, compared to an urban district.

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Could you explain why the vouchers would hurt rural schools?

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Same question here.

Exactly where would a voucher recipient in rural areas take their business? Are they going to drive 50 miles to a big city with a private school?

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Could you explain why the vouchers would hurt rural schools?

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Same question here.

Exactly where would a voucher recipient in rural areas take their business? Are they going to drive 50 miles to a big city with a private school?

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And if they do...how does it hurt them more than urban schools who rely on attendance for funds?

Trying to connect the dots.

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"Roger's lost because he was anti- voucher. He thinks rural schools will be hurt by vouchers." - and Rogers is 100% correct about this.

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Not arguing, but looking for answers....

Could you explain why the vouchers would hurt rural schools? I've heard that said, but haven't seen how it will hurt them specifically, compared to an urban district.

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Rural opponents believe parents will use vouchers for private schooling; taking money away from districts with already tight budgets.

With that said, public money, via vouchers, should be restricted to public schools.

Added: Charter schools, on the other hand, are not private. They operate 100% on state funding and a voucher program could incentivize people to open Charter schools in rural areas thus taking state funding away from the traditional public schools.

Abbot is getting his hands into too much stuff.

We need another republican to step up and primary wheels. He's got his hands far too deep into the board of regents and the voucher thing will be the biggest money grab scam of all time, funded by rich oil west texas guys that have investments in charter schools.

Whatddya know - pure profiteering off government tax dollars with an unlevel playing field.

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"Roger's lost because he was anti- voucher. He thinks rural schools will be hurt by vouchers." - and Rogers is 100% correct about this.

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Not arguing, but looking for answers....

Could you explain why the vouchers would hurt rural schools? I've heard that said, but haven't seen how it will hurt them specifically, compared to an urban district.

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Rural opponents believe parents will use vouchers for private schooling; taking money away from districts with already tight budgets.

With that said, public money, via vouchers, should be restricted to public schools.

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this. Ultimately it's less funding for those rural districts.

"But can't those people use the funds themselves?" No, rural districts don't have private schools.

This money is going to be a pure boondoggle for poor and otherwise selected class citizens to be allowed to subsidize private schools farther.

For the people that think "oh hey, we live in DISD and now we can afford to send our kids to Jesuit!" lol...

This is grift at its core.

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Right. But that's how vouchers work for every district. And every district is on a tight budget.

I'm curious how it hurts Rural district differently.

It would seem to me, it would hurt urban districts harder, because there are a lot more private school options in the city.

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Where?

If a community can barely support a public school, no one is going to open a private one.

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Right. But that's how vouchers work for every district. And every district is on a tight budget.

I'm curious how it hurts Rural district differently.

It would seem to me, it would hurt urban districts harder, because there are a lot more private school options in the city.

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Fixed costs such as buildings, utilities, etc, account for larger % of rural budgets because they have a smaller local tax base. Basically, rural districts have less "play money" to use in their budgets. School district budgets are not fully funded by the state.

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If a community can barely support a public school, no one is going to open a private one.

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I dont disagree but thats the fear.

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Fixed costs such as buildings, utilities, etc, account for larger % of rural budgets because they have a smaller local tax base. Basically, rural districts have less "play money" to use in their budgets. School district budgets are not fully funded by the state.

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But money is redistributed across the state.

Also, there is less likelihood, if at all in most rural communities, of students attending an alternate private school.

Not meaning to argue. Just trying to understand the fear.

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Fixed costs such as buildings, utilities, etc, account for larger % of rural budgets because they have a smaller local tax base. Basically, rural districts have less "play money" to use in their budgets. School district budgets are not fully funded by the state.

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But money is redistributed across the state.

Also, there is less likelihood, if at all in most rural communities, of students attending an alternate private school.

Not meaning to argue. Just trying to understand the fear.

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Even if rural areas don't have private schools, they may have a lot of homeschoolers. And those folks will get voucher money to homeschool.

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They may. They may not.

I would suspect home schooling is a lot less common in rural areas, as the school is usually the center of the community's social life.

And home schoolers usually band together, so you would need several families to home school for the best outcome.

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Sometimes.

There are also a bunch of rural school with really nice facilities, because they have industry such as wind farms. Hermleigh and Zephyr come to mind. Both have nice buildings and the latter, at least, has artificial turf.

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Even if rural areas don't have private schools, they may have a lot of homeschoolers.

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They may. They may not.

I would suspect home schooling is a lot less common in rural areas, as the school is usually the center of the community's social life.

And home schoolers usually band together, so you would need several families to home school for the best outcome.

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I did a quick search and looks like rural people homeschool more than urban people. Huge budget cut coming for rural schools in Texas. This is going to be the "find out" phase for them.

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https://fordhaminstitute.org/national/commentary/rural-school-choice-more-common-you-think#:~:text=Rural%20families%20are%20twice%20as,in%20school%2C%E2%80%9D%20they%20write.

he's a butt hurt lib who pretended to be conservative but was just a teacher's union stooge. Ive never seen someone so butthurt in my life, it had developed into vendetta and hating people now occupies his whole life.

Glenn Rogers was a happy supporter of Dade, voted to allow Democrats to hold committee chairmanship positions, sided with democrats to against banning puberty blockers, voted to fund education of illegal aliens, against a ban on taxpayer funded lobbying, and more.

He is RINO POS, and I was glad to be one of the many voters who kicked his ass to the curb in a landslide.

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Rogers (old Agg) was an R state rep who opposed Abbott's billions of dollars voucher program so Abbott used part of the $20 million the out-of-state voucher grifters gave him to primary him out of office.

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we will all be held to account for lies

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Glen is a good person.

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Ive met him many times. He's a vitriolic and scorned woman .