Ever think it's less satisfying because more options or less satisfying because so many Americans have gotten to be lol fat tubs of lard?

Lol nah, it's not "too many options". The stuff just doesn't hit like it used to because of what's actually in it- more seed oils, preservatives, fillers, ultra-processed junk. On paper it's "higher quality," but it's engineered for cost and shelf life, not taste or satisfaction. People didn't suddenly get harder to feed, it's the food that changed

Watched that with Moe's SW Grill. A shell of it's former self.

Culver's advertises that they "always use fresh, never frozen beef " and every Butterburger is made to order.

I like the product they serve, even though I limit my visits - and I treat myself to french fries maybe twice a year (such is life when you're retired and trying to stay healthy). Besides that, my burgers made at home are superior to anything I can buy in town - just like my steaks.

Btw, what the hell happened to Whataburger?

Sold out to PE

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CEO makes logical, sound business decision based on data and analysis.

Infinity demonizes the CEO, per usual, and predicts doom.

The end.

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Did you even read the OP? He didn't have a problem with the business decision. It just appears short sighted and meant to address immediate and not long term needs. And he's right. It's a "this won't be my problem in the future" CEO type of move.

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Logos Stick said:

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CEO makes logical, sound business decision based on data and analysis.

Infinity demonizes the CEO, per usual, and predicts doom.

The end.

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Did you even read the OP? He didn't have a problem with the business decision. It just appears short sighted and meant to address immediate and not long term needs. And he's right. It's a "this won't be my problem in the future" CEO type of move.

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No, he did not. He just saw my name, saw "CEO" and rushed with his machete to attack me.
And now he won't even be a gentleman and apologize and give us his views on the point I raised.

I'm just trying to get people to think critically for themselves, and not fall into the "CEO is always right" mindset that is so prevalent among the conservative types. That is no longer the truth and hasn't been for some 25 years.

No problem. We are all Ags, all Americans and all have more or less the same goal for our country.

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Culver's advertises that they "always use fresh, never frozen beef " and every Butterburger is made to order.

I like the product they serve, even though I limit my visits - and I treat myself to french fries maybe twice a year (such is life when you're retired and trying to stay healthy). Besides that, my burgers made at home are superior to anything I can buy in town - just like my steaks.

Btw, what the hell happened to Whataburger?

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Culver's is awesome. I love their burgers. Also loved Fuddruckers but they've closed down where I live. As I get older, I limit this stuff, my teenage daughter also gets mad at me when I suggest we go get some burgers.

Shrinkage is another tool that fast food has used to improve profitability.

Slider-sized is now the standard.

"We can lean into this in a meaningful way"

This is the kind of buzzword bs that this amazing guy takes a dookie all over. NSFW

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQ4cPRCCMH8/?igsh=aXQyN2MwdGt5cWUx

McDonald's currently uses 100% fresh, never frozen beef with zero preservatives.

Many of your criticisms are simply outdated.

Something that amazes me, concerning fast food , fast casual, junk food, and all that :

Warren Buffett is a McDonald's and Coke addict. His diet is everything that we are told is a garbage diet. He is one of the wealthiest people on Earth, and at age 95, is finally stepping back from running Berkshire Hathaway.

Our President, reportedly, has a diet even worse. More fast food, more sodas, even a man who eats his steak well done, with ketchup. The horror. And he is 79. I wish I had his energy.

One thing they have in common is neither drinks coffee or alcohol. The horror. And even though Trump is a golfer, I am not aware that either of these guys "exercise".

And then there was Winston Churchill. He drank from morning 'til late into the night. He was 90 when he passed on.

Coffee is one of the great joys of life, as is good red wine (for me). All in moderation, of course.

I just don't know if any my "healthy" efforts are doing me any good.

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No joke there, my wife always adds guac and I think that was pushing $4 the last time we went.

As far as the Freebirds discussion, I hadn't been for quite some time (likely due to spending 5 years in Oregon) and I went to the one closest to my new house recently (around noon on a Sunday). There was only one person behind the counter when I got there and she was busy filling a to-go order. When she finished that she came to the counter, apologized and helped the family in line in front of me.

By the time it was my turn, the other employee came in from the visible back door (presumably from a smoke break) and went straight to the grill to remove the meat that was languishing there. He came to the counter to make my order after that. When I was eating my food at home my wife kept asking why I was making "disappointment face" and it was probably because the rice was mushy, the fajita meat was bland, they changed the BBQ sauce AGAIN, and I had just paid $15 for this mess. The black beans and hot sauce were OK though.

Maybe it was a bad day, maybe it was that location but I won't go back to that one for the foreseeable future.

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Freebirds sold out like 10 years ago and their quality suffered MIGHTILY.
There was a time when I would have died on the "Freebirds is better than Chipotle" hill but those days are LONG gone.
Anyone here who still thinks FB is better than Chipotle is either trying to be a redass Ag, lying, hasn't had Chipotle in a long time, or just doesn't know what decent food tastes like.

I could probably think of another given time to chew on it but as of now, I can't recall a more pronounced drop in quality of a chain restaurant after a sale than Freebirds.

It's really sad too because they used to be legitimately great.

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This. And I think its been quite a bit longer than 10 years ago.

But man...early 2000s Freebirds was effing awesome.

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I miss the good old days for freebirds. Their steak is now awful. No flavor and a completely different type of meat. I'm sure it's cost cutting. But why is the rice now different? It's also flavorless and is much softer/mushier than it used to be. Surely rice isnt a cost cutting thing.

Jalapeños are also different now.

I still eat freebirds every now and then bc the sauces I get are still the same as back in the day so it does at least hit the spot off I put a ton of sauce on. I still like it better than chipotle bc of the sauces and different options. But chipotle quality of meat is decently better.

Cabo Bobs is the best, better than Qdoba or Chipotle

Yeah, I totally agree. The drop in quality isn't just in your head. Private equity and investment groups swoop in, cut costs, and tweak things to boost profits. It's a shame when restaurants sell out like that, food should actually taste good and feel like someone gave a damn, not just be about hitting profit targets and squeezing every penny