TexasRebel said:

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Deputy Travis Junior said:

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I've got a model 3 with the latest self driving software and offline driving is fine. It doesn't pull real time traffic details (obviously) but the self driving works normally.

You need to read up on AI developments. You don't know what you're talking about with any of these claims.

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Please tell me which roads you travel so I can avoid them.

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You'd be doing him the favor. FSD accident rate is roughly 1/7th the average U.S. driver. If it weren't for non-FSD drivers it would likely be even better.

I don't like being an uncompensated, involuntary beta tester.

Good news! It's not Full Self Driving (Beta) anymore. It's Full Self Driving (Supervised).

So not self driving.

TexasRebel said:

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Deputy Travis Junior said:

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I've got a model 3 with the latest self driving software and offline driving is fine. It doesn't pull real time traffic details (obviously) but the self driving works normally.

You need to read up on AI developments. You don't know what you're talking about with any of these claims.

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Please tell me which roads you travel so I can avoid them.

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For your sake I hope this is an elaborate troll job. But if it isn't, you don't have to worry about sharing a road with me. You're gonna have to sell your car in 6-12 months after you're laid off from your programming job because you refused to adjust to changes that everyone sees coming.

TexasRebel said:

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So not self driving.

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Robot taxes (driverless) are all over the roads, at least in the cities. They do pretty well from what I have seen.

More broken code to fix.

Deputy Travis Junior said:

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TexasRebel said:

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Deputy Travis Junior said:

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I've got a model 3 with the latest self driving software and offline driving is fine. It doesn't pull real time traffic details (obviously) but the self driving works normally.

You need to read up on AI developments. You don't know what you're talking about with any of these claims.

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Please tell me which roads you travel so I can avoid them.

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For your sake I hope this is an elaborate troll job. But if it isn't, you don't have to worry about sharing a road with me. You're gonna have to sell your car in 6-12 months after you're laid off from your programming job because you refused to adjust to changes that everyone sees coming.

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It's trivial for non-programmers who are smart to build virtually anything now. I vibe coded a website today just to see what I could build. It's honestly incredible how good it is. It double checks work and runs tests and it gives instructions for anything you need. I know nothing about programming but I'm a decently smart guy so I was able to get it working.

Surely the Reimann Hypothesis is next.

hph6203 said:

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Waymo has reduced the rate of severe accidents by 90%, has 2000+ cars on the road driving 2+ million miles every week. They just raised $16 billion for expansion.

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Those statistics are so misleading, that is to be expected since they are published by Waymo.

Waymo doesn't do highways and rarely exceeds 45 mph. It's not an apples to apples comparison.

Also, did you know, Waymo is more expensive than Uber or Lyft and typically takes much longer to reach it's destination?

It's still a novelty, time will tell if it can survive beyond that.

ntxVol said:

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hph6203 said:

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Waymo has reduced the rate of severe accidents by 90%, has 2000+ cars on the road driving 2+ million miles every week. They just raised $16 billion for expansion.

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Those statistics are so misleading, that is to be expected since they are published by Waymo.

Waymo doesn't do highways and rarely exceeds 45 mph. It's not an apples to apples comparison.

Also, did you know, Waymo is more expensive than Uber or Lyft and typically takes much longer to reach it's destination?

It's still a novelty, time will tell if it can survive beyond that.

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I'd like to see the stats normalized for type of driving (highway versus not). Most accidents occur at low speeds, under 40 mph and 75% occur within 10 miles of home. Based on what I see, in urban areas, arterial roads account for 60% of severe accidents.

Also, do you have the data on Waymo taking longer.

Logos Stick said:

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ntxVol said:

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hph6203 said:

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Waymo has reduced the rate of severe accidents by 90%, has 2000+ cars on the road driving 2+ million miles every week. They just raised $16 billion for expansion.

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Those statistics are so misleading, that is to be expected since they are published by Waymo.

Waymo doesn't do highways and rarely exceeds 45 mph. It's not an apples to apples comparison.

Also, did you know, Waymo is more expensive than Uber or Lyft and typically takes much longer to reach it's destination?

It's still a novelty, time will tell if it can survive beyond that.

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I'd like to see the stats normalized for type of driving (highway versus not). Most accidents occur at low speeds, under 40 mph and 75% occur within 10 miles of home. Based on what I see, in urban areas, arterial roads account for 60% of severe accidents.

Also, do you have the data on Waymo taking longer.

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There's a couple of links below, but those look like the lack of highway driving is the main factor. I saw another article, but can't find it now, that showed Waymo taking significantly longer to pickup, on average, than the other services which was a major factor for shorter rides.

https://www.pcmag.com/news/waymo-robotaxis-san-francisco-airport-sfo-dont-try-if-in-a-hurry?test_uuid=04IpBmWGZleS0I0J3epvMrC&test_variant=A

https://insideevs.com/news/776542/waymo-commute-takes-too-long/

The reduction is based upon a comparison of like for like driving conditions. It doesn't come from lack of highway driving. They aren't comparing aggregated crash data to aggregated crash data.

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This hub compares the Waymo Driver's Rider-Only (RO) crash rates to human crash benchmarks for surface streets.

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