Sad Aggie Fan said:

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Would you prefer "raper if underage girls"? Does that make you feel better?

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It's not about feelings, it's about being honest and factual. And yes, what you describe would be accurate.

Are you looking for accuracy or just to make inflammatory remarks?

infinity ag said:

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I always knew Musk is a scumbag moron.

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Musk denied Epstein invitation

OP needs to step outside and get some fresh air. Get away from the keyboard for awhile. If anyone knows him might do a welfare check.

Sad Aggie Fan said:

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I personally take issue with a pedophile collaborator that donated millions of dollars to our current administration for the ability to head a department that was responsible for removing oversight.

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Please direct us to your extensive condemnation of Bill Clinton, Hillary and their donor network. I'll wait.

Or, I dunno, wait until there's a credible claim of abuse ablut any of these people before convicting them of a crime no one other than the public claims they committed?


Imagine Epstein's residences weren't an exclusive den of sexual abuse (because they weren't). That occasionally he threw big parties with lots of people and lots of models who wanted to be around rich guys and would trade attention for the yacht life. I think that's a shallow, pretty gross experience, but it's not illegal.

Did every Diddy party attendee lather up in baby oil and violate other men and women for pleasure?

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Athanasius said:

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Logos Stick said:

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You last paragraph is a bald faced lie.

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THANK YOU for not saying 'bold'.

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hehe I was going to say the same thing.... thanks for posting!
I am sick and tired of seeing "bold faced lie" and "we will loose".

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Yep

Such morans, amirite?!

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infinity ag said:

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Athanasius said:

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Logos Stick said:

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You last paragraph is a bald faced lie.

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THANK YOU for not saying 'bold'.

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hehe I was going to say the same thing.... thanks for posting!
I am sick and tired of seeing "bold faced lie" and "we will loose".

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Yep

Such morans, amirite?!

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Exactly!!

Sad Aggie Fan said:

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Is it good or bad that he emailed a known and convicted pedophile on Christmas day to "party" near his island? Or that he tried to visit the island in 2013 but failed?

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that graphic isn't SUS at all.... first two threads are the same font in the header and the email body... but the third? ROFL.

So much of this last tranche and how it is being selectively edited and released is doing more damage than good. Example, I think Gates is a PoS but Epstein sending Epstein an email about Gates getting an STD and wanting to slip drugs to his wife? Come on. Gates, I am sure, has access to tons of Dr's able to get him what he was asking for and all under HIPPA.

Whatever. This is what was always going to happen with these floods of documents. It is likely the only way prosecutions happen now is if the victims start burning it all down. The system has failed them, that's for sure.

LoneStarFree said:

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I rode to work everyday for a year with a guy who turned mass shooter and killed 5 people in the office where we both worked. Does that make me a mass shooter too?

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I had a job at the Winn Dixie in College Station when I was in College and worked with the guy that killed the adult video store clerk at the start of what was to be his mass killing spree.

Sorry for the derail, but your post brought back a flood of memories. Just like that scene on Billy Madison when he called to apologize for bullying. Sure glad I never gave that guy **** like the other college kids I worked with did ...

We fixed the keg said:

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LoneStarFree said:

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I rode to work everyday for a year with a guy who turned mass shooter and killed 5 people in the office where we both worked. Does that make me a mass shooter too?

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I had a job at the Winn Dixie in College Station when I was in College and worked with the guy that killed the adult video store clerk at the start of what was to be his mass killing spree.

Sorry for the derail, but your post brought back a flood of memories. Just like that scene on Billy Madison when he called to apologize for bullying. Sure glad I never gave that guy **** like the other college kids I worked with did ...

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In the late 80s there was a guy who had raped a girl that worked I think at Kroger or something in college Station. Even came up on unsolved mysteries.

All I know is there is only one picture that Epstein had in his possession and it was Bill in a Blue dress. NOTHING ELSE says ……"I own you B%tch"!

I get discounting the wacko tips that came into the FBI that we are seeing. Why are folks discounting emails? Would you be discounting emails if the sender was the Clinton foundation? Of course not. So why discount Elon emails?

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I get discounting the wacko tips that came into the FBI that we are seeing. Why are folks discounting emails? Would you be discounting emails if the sender was the Clinton foundation? Of course not. So why discount Elon emails?

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Pretty similar reasons actually. With regards to the Gates' email, you had Epstein sending himself an email memorializing what either he took away from the conversation (at best) or how he wanted it to be spun (at worst) and most likely not exactly what happened.

In the case of these Elon purported emails. Look at the first at the first two...here is the first one


Look at the formatting and font. Same font, standard email alignment, and replies follow standard email formatting with increasing numbers of ">" as you flow deeper into older replies. Second email has different formatting as it looks to not be in text format like the first, but all font and alignments are similar.

Now look at the 3rd. Why does it have a header like the first email, with a body in a different font?



With everyone and their dog looking to play "gotcha" with this information, you shouldn't take everything you are fed at face value. People have already been caught with that BIG GOTCHA of notes against Trump but leaving out the parts where the witness was found mentally unstable and not credible.

I would need to see the full source of that third email before I would believe it word for word, but even if I did, there is nothing in there that confirms Elon is asking for underage girls. He could be wanting to go on an alcohol or some other type of bender.

Sad Aggie Fan said:

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I personally take issue with a pedophile collaborator that donated millions of dollars to our current administration for the ability to head a department that was responsible for removing oversight.

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To be specific, he was removing funding for the oversight of color revolutions, money laundering, human trafficking, and election fraud along with many other types of fraud, waste, and abuse.

Concerning.

It's waiting for any actual hard evidence that wrongdoing occurred. Talking to Epstein, while weird if they're fully aware of his past, is not a crime. You need a victim complaint and the complaint needs to be deemed credible unlike the claims made by those calling into the tip line. Alternatively you need someone to write out their admission or suggestion that a crime occurred and then pursue finding out the nature of that statement/whether you can locate a victim.

Without internet mythologizing I find it hard to believe that Howard Lutnick is visiting Epstein's island with his wife, two married friends and all of their kids and having a pedophile retreat. Why he listed all their ages? I dunno.

I find it hard to believe that Elon is being invited to his island with his, at the time, 27 year old wife and Epstein warns Talilah (her name is Talulah) might be uncomfortable with the ratio, presumably male/female ratio, and that they're both actually under the intention of participating in a pedophilic abuse session.


The non-witch hunt interpretation of most of what's in Epstein's dialogues is that he was a rich gun that owned a ranch and an island and other properties, ran with a lot of adult models, and threw parties with said models on his island and occasional entertained totally innocuous interactions at those properties. And also on other occasions did more nefarious things and filtering out which was which or if all of it is degeneracy requires more evidence than an email and an invitation that went unfulfilled.

I'd rather not label a person a pedophile that's not a pedophile.

That is the key question. Epstein and Maxwell were sent to prison for running an underage child sex ring.

Prosecute their clients!!! Until we see at least one client arrest, this partial release of Epstein files means nothing. https://t.co/PPdtZPA293

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) January 31, 2026

infinity ag said:

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I always knew Musk is a scumbag moron.

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Because he's a CEO, right? Actually a CEO of multiple companies so scumbag is probably too kind.

A lot of this so called Epstein files stuff is complete crap. Granted Epstein was weird dude and definately a POS with a taste for underage girls, the world is filled with them. The U.S. is the NUMBER ONE abuser of underage porn on the planet. And blackmail is as old as the bible. Epstein as was stated earlier was building a network for influence. They always talk about how so in so is compromised, what in the f*** to you think Epstein was trying to do. and when you're trying build a massive database of influence, whether or not it's tru isn't important, it just has to be believable, not necessarily true, and those are not always synonymous.

Speaking of databases of influence, remember when a half drunk Maxine Waters in a candid interview said, "Obama has put in place a kind of database that no one has ever seen before in life... and that database will have information about everything on every individual" in Feb 2013? When that video was leaked, Barry's administration explained it away calling it disinformation taken out of context. They gaslit the public saying what she was referring to was the Obama campaign's voter outreach and data analytics infrastructure from the 2012 election (and earlier 2008 efforts). Barry described it as an innovative, powerful organizing tool for mobilizing supporters, not a secret government surveillance database collecting "dirt" or compromising information on political opponents or the general public. REALLY? The SO CALLED Fact-checkers and mainstream reporting from the time treated Waters' remark as hype about campaign tech, not evidence of a sinister government plot. The idea of Obama boasting about compiling compromising "dirt" on citizens doesn't appear in any verifiable public record from him. But everyone was falling for it and the buzz was building. Three months later Obama gaslit the U.S. citizenship saying, "It's important to recognize that you can't have 100 percent security and also then have 100 percent privacy and zero inconvenience" HUH?

Flashback to September 2002, Bill Binney, along with J. Kirk Wiebe and Edward Loomis, asked the U.S. Defense Department Inspector General (DoD IG) to investigate the NSA for abusing Trailblazer system, a system intended to analyze mass collection of data carried on communications networks like the Internet and all telecommunications. These guys invented the system they were snitching on, in the 90's and first the Bush administration began abusing it via the Patriot Act, turning the focus on american citizens, when it was originally designed to spy on the rest of the world. Next thing you know the entire intelligence machine went after Binney, Wiebe, and Loomis, jackboot raids and all. This attempt to destroy these guys went on for years, and continued on into the Obama era.

The Obama administration took the surveillance to the next level, and that along with The punitive treatment of Binney, and the other whistleblowers also led Snowden to go public with his revelations rather than report through the internal whistleblower program. Like what Snowden did or not he verified what Binney and crew had been saying. Anyone that thinks checking some silly box to opt out of anything concerning your privacy are too naive to help. You would literally have to go back to little house on the prairie lifestyle off the grid to come close to gaining any sort of true privacy. The more electronic convenience they sell you the easier it is. In these high profile crimes like the Vegas shooting and Bakersfield, the the FBI claims they can't crack some perps phone and claim the Apple isn't cooperating is just a delay and deception tactic to just make the truth go away.

Sorry for the derail but this is a long standing issue with me that I can never let go. It's a bipartisan problem and we are screwed by them all.

On point. I cannot find one thing I either don't consider plausible or that I know 100% is in place.

Can't way which is which but all of it is accurate or likely accurate.

Sad Aggie Fan said:

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I personally take issue with a pedophile collaborator that donated millions of dollars to our current administration for the ability to head a department that was responsible for removing oversight.

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I personally take issue with anyone who supported or voted for any of the

Clinton family
Obama family
Biden Family
Kackles...

See how easy it is to make general statements..

One thing I don't seem to remember is you voicing your displeasure of anyone who "Spoke directly with Bill Clinton" after he was an admitted adulterer and used the Oval office for his sexual misconduct". Funny how the dem's just said "it was okay for bill to lie under oath because it was about his personal life".

Same thing when it came out that biden would shower with his daughter, or that he refused to recognize one of his grandchildren.

The conservatives on this board and the ones I know in real life all agree that anyone tried and convicted of any charges pertaining to the rape, prostitution, trafficking underage females, etc. anywhere, including those that happened at Epstein's island or wherever else should be locked up and a lot of us think they should be killed. Some of us would even volunteer to supply the bullets and be part of the firing squad. I know of at least one that wouldn't need a firing squad, they'd just walk up and put a bullet in their head without thinking twice.

Here's another fun fact, both parties have had their share of bad people. The dem's don't have a lock on people cheating on their spouses, having kiddie porn, etc. They do, however, seem to be on the side of child mutilation to further the Trans movement, denying biological girls spots on girls teams, etc.

Your pathetic game of "gotcha" is just that, pathetic. You somehow wander back to the board this month and want to play holier than thou...

I will say that the first two words of your username are appropriate.

At this point, it seems as if every celebrity and politician is involved, not surprised, but also done caring

Musks emails definitely don't prove he wanted "nothing to do with Epstein". If anything, and fitting to his personality, the dude wanted to legitimately get in on crazy party action only insanely wealthy people could afford / get invited to. There's absolutely no evidence Elon was, wanted to be, or tried to be a kiddie diddler of any <18 age.

As mentioned above, it's becoming clear that Epstein trafficked whatever he needed to traffic to gain influence to high profile people.. for whatever reason. Interested in minors? He's got you. Interested in coke and hookers? He's got you. Interested in an island retreat surrounded by other high profile people? He's got you. Interested in crazy, exclusive parties? He's got you.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure any evidence has been released to the public that incriminates anyone enough other than in the court of public opinion.

Heineken-Ashi said:

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Musks emails definitely don't prove he wanted "nothing to do with Epstein". If anything, and fitting to his personality, the dude wanted to legitimately get in on crazy party action only insanely wealthy people could afford / get invited to. There's absolutely no evidence Elon was, wanted to be, or tried to be a kiddie diddler of any <18 age.

As mentioned above, it's becoming clear that Epstein trafficked whatever he needed to traffic to gain influence to high profile people.. for whatever reason. Interested in minors? He's got you. Interested in coke and hookers? He's got you. Interested in an island retreat surrounded by other high profile people? He's got you. Interested in crazy, exclusive parties? He's got you.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure any evidence has been released to the public that incriminates anyone enough other than in the court of public opinion.

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This is the issue I have with "full disclosure" of the Epstein files. There were likely many people connected to him who had no interest in pedophilia. To release the name of everyone associated with Epstein just to satisfy mob mentality without any clear evidence of connection to pedophilia is wrong. It unfairly tarnishes the reputation of people who are likely innocent.

Anyone with suspected pedophilia connections should be referred to a grand jury for evaluation and potential indictments. That's the way our justice system works. It goes after those who the evidence shows as possibly guilty, while also protecting those for whom the government doesn't have enough evidence to pursue charges.

And for those who are actually guilty of pedophilia, I hope they rot in hell.

70% of our leadership is 100% compromised. What will it take, a constitutional convention?

Queso1 said:

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70% of our leadership is 100% compromised. What will it take, a constitutional convention?

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Vegas or Orlando?

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Link?

flown-the-coop said:

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Queso1 said:

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70% of our leadership is 100% compromised. What will it take, a constitutional convention?

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Vegas or Orlando?

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Pizza Party, Washington DC

Athanasius said:

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Logos Stick said:

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You last paragraph is a bald faced lie.

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THANK YOU for not saying 'bold'.

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Irregardless, a bold and bald face lie are the same thing, for all intensive purposes. Defiantly the same thing.

Regardless and irregardless are both acceptable.

Bold faced and bald faced are technically different, bald faced originating from barefaced and indicative of non-concealment. Bold faced indicative of more brazen lying.

If you happen to ever find yourself watching a 36 lectures course on linguistics, you learn that as long as you are communicating with a common understanding of the worms and terms, then you are "correct".

Don't let some over zealous English major or Economist style guide make you feel illiterate, when you may be on the more progressive end of language evolving, which it does, particularly the spoken word.