I watch police body cam videos on youtube. People get shot by police all the time, often unarmed. The videos below are just from the past 2 months. No national head lines. No riots.




15 shots on this dude


Armed with only a dog


Shot for throwing a rock. And an illegal immigrant!

People should listen to Chris Rock.

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I watch police body cam videos on youtube. People get shot by police all the time, often unarmed. The videos below are just from the past 2 months. No national head lines. No riots.

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REEEEEEEEE

DEFUND POLICE!!!

THEY ARE MURDERING EVERYONE!!!

REEEEEEEEE!!!

We learned a lot about police shootings during the BLM riots of 2020. The narrative then was "you would be screaming police brutality if they were white!". Well, they're white now, and it's still justified shootings. But the left has the memory of gold fish, so it doesn't register.

BonfireNerd04 said:

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People should listen to Chris Rock.

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This is what I link to people, all the time.

The difference between my experiences and others, when dealing with law enforcement, has nothing to do with my race or ethnicity. I am simply always respectful and do what they ask.

Now, if they ask to search my car or home, I will tell them I need to see a warrant first. If they were to pull me out aggressively and do it anyways, I wouldn't fight. I would let them do it, and then later grab their badge numbers and names, and file an official complaint. Depending on everything that went down, I would determine whether a complaint was enough or if civil or criminal legal action is required.

It's really not that hard.

God, can you imagine if Pretti & Good were black? It'd be fentanyl Floyd all over again.

GeorgiAg said:

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God, can you imagine if Pretti & Good were black? It'd be fentanyl Floyd all over again.

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Minneapolis would have already burned to the ground.

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GeorgiAg said:

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God, can you imagine if Pretti & Good were black? It'd be fentanyl Floyd all over again.

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Minneapolis would have already burned to the ground.

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And you know who would be sitting in her mansion with the windows open taking in all that wonderful smelling arson aroma.

Daniel Shaver is the worst shoot I've watched.
Cop got away with no prison time, and that is a travesty. Yes i get that Daniel's hand moved towards his trousers, but yet. Truly tragic.
But Daniel was white, and innocent, so no one really cared. Definitely not the sanctimonious posters who've suddenly been visiting this board. And this happened well before St.Floyd.

Its crazy I've lived my whole life without getting shot by police. Not even having a negative encounter. What's the difference between me and people who people who do? People deserve the direct consequences of their actions, negative and positive. Thats justice.

Can we start pointing at the MN dip**** when people say black people are more likely to get shot by cops?

Pinochet said:

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Can we start pointing at the MN dip**** when people say black people are more likely to get shot by cops?

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There is no reasoning with people who are purposely obtuse and believe that's a strength. However, you can and should point and laugh at them.

I don't have a problem admitting that law enforcement can be overzealous and overstep their authority. It happens all the time. What I do have a problem with is the Pedocrats' proposed solution to that problem of just not enforcing the law anymore, or (if they aren't in power) rioting until law enforcement just gives up.

If leftists would at least agree, as a starting point, that the law should be enforced notwithstanding any unfortunate incidents that occur during law enforcement encounters, then we could have a conversation. But because leftists are emotional and irrational, they won't even agree that the law should be enforced, so we have nothing to talk about.

If you can't even agree that the law should be enforced, then you've turned the debate into "should we enforce the law?" and you leave those on the right no choice but to just wholesale defend law enforcement no matter what, because they want the law to be enforced (and rightfully so).

Martin Q. Blank said:

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I watch police body cam videos on youtube. People get shot by police all the time, often unarmed. The videos below are just from the past 2 months. No national head lines. No riots.

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These aren't linked back to Trump in any way. That's the overriding factor for the outrage, TDS.

Liberals have much higher instances of mental illness and it's not even close. The types that would riot and protest in favor of criminal illegal aliens probably much more so. Their Democrat puppet masters know this…and that if you throw hundreds/thousands of certifiably insane leftists with hero complexes into the mix, that at least a few will do something stupid and reckless enough to get them killed.

Nothing can convince me that the Democrat power machine doesn't want more of their own to die painful and horrific (but completely unnecessary) deaths for the cause.

He had a broken rib from a previous tackle by ice. He was in pain. Sorry if that magically looks like he was standing up with his gun pointed or even reaching in his pocket. News flash. You made it up.

Nothing will change the videos that are available. Watch them over and over until this gets through those thick little noggins.

Well reasoned but be advised LEOs do NOT need a warrant to search you, your car, or your house if they have probable cause. Yes you can fight probably cause in court, and if there was NO probably cause anything found would be thrown out, but it's rare to prove no probably cause existed. They are trained LEOs and know when something is wrong, and can legitimately argue probable cause on several grounds.

Anyway, I turn 56 in 3 weeks and have still managed to not get shot by an LEO, maybe it will happen before I reach 57……

Pointing to random police body-cam videos to normalize civilian deaths misses the point entirely, because the issue isn't whether shootings happen elsewhere, it's whether we should accept escalating federal force and civilian harm as normal or acceptable just because it doesn't always make headlines.

WCrew04 said:

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Pointing to random police body-cam videos to normalize civilian deaths misses the point entirely, because the issue isn't whether shootings happen elsewhere, it's whether we should accept escalating federal force and civilian harm as normal or acceptable just because it doesn't always make headlines.

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All depends what the escalating federal force is for. If it's to intimidate parents at school board meetings, that's a no for me. If it's to enforce federal immigration law in an attempt to start cleaning up the disaster purposely released on this country by open border democrat policy, I'm all for it.

Escalating civilian harm? If the harm is a result of interfering with the federal officer, not too concerned about that.

WCrew04 said:

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Pointing to random police body-cam videos to normalize civilian deaths misses the point entirely, because the issue isn't whether shootings happen elsewhere, it's whether we should accept escalating federal force and civilian harm as normal or acceptable just because it doesn't always make headlines.

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uhhhh, that's not what's happened

You have people that are being instructed to forcefully interfere with law enforcement activities

I thought this was a wild take but then I watched every single video. This is a really dumb take.

The deceased that led to national outrage was in turtle position not moving, surrounded by federal officers. The others did not obey commands and acted shady as hell.

It's not that hard to understand.

You all can't be serious… these threads and takes are now quite silly. You look foolish

Jarrin Jay said:

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Well reasoned but be advised LEOs do NOT need a warrant to search you, your car, or your house if they have probable cause. Yes you can fight probably cause in court, and if there was NO probably cause anything found would be thrown out, but it's rare to prove no probably cause existed. They are trained LEOs and know when something is wrong, and can legitimately argue probable cause on several grounds.

Anyway, I turn 56 in 3 weeks and have still managed to not get shot by an LEO, maybe it will happen before I reach 57……

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But that's my entire point. I will fight that after the fact. Physically fighting law enforcement is a losing battle.

WCrew04 said:

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Pointing to random police body-cam videos to normalize civilian deaths misses the point entirely, because the issue isn't whether shootings happen elsewhere, it's whether we should accept escalating federal force and civilian harm as normal or acceptable just because it doesn't always make headlines.

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Have you ever pitched a fit or expressed condolences over the many innocent girls who have been raped and killed by illegal gang bangers that Biden let freely into our country? If some of you can provide receipts on that sort of thing we may take your "concerns" seriously and in good faith.

But even still, you know damn well you have to go out of your way to get killed by police or federal agents in this country, with very few exceptions. There is no reason to be concerned just because a couple of brainwashed hot heads took a fight to federal agents conducting operations and presented real risks and "found out". You'll be ok. Everyone you know will be ok if they don't fight or seriously threaten law enforcement.

theJonatron said:

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I thought this was a wild take but then I watched every single video. This is a really dumb take.

The deceased that led to national outrage was in turtle position not moving, surrounded by federal officers. The others did not obey commands and acted shady as hell.

It's not that hard to understand.

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He just laid peacefully in turtle position and never tried to fight or get up? Maybe the videos I watched were all doctored?

Danimal said:

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He had a broken rib from a previous tackle by ice. He was in pain. Sorry if that magically looks like he was standing up with his gun pointed or even reaching in his pocket. News flash. You made it up.

Nothing will change the videos that are available. Watch them over and over until this gets through those thick little noggins.

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Sounds like that dip**** should have learned to stop interfering with federal agents and it cost him his life.

Did Pretti ever reach towards his waist?

It not, he didnt do more than some of those vids.

You should have posted the Daniel Shaver video....its the best example of getting shot for less.

Yeah, that was the worst one I have ever seen too. Zero reason to shoot and just blew him away. Very little outrage about that shooting.

Jarrin Jay said:

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Well reasoned but be advised LEOs do NOT need a warrant to search you, your car, or your house if they have probable cause. Yes you can fight probably cause in court, and if there was NO probably cause anything found would be thrown out, but it's rare to prove no probably cause existed. They are trained LEOs and know when something is wrong, and can legitimately argue probable cause on several grounds.

Anyway, I turn 56 in 3 weeks and have still managed to not get shot by an LEO, maybe it will happen before I reach 57……

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LEOs need a warrant to search your person, unless you are arrested (search incident to arrest). They absolutely need a warrant to search your home, unless there is a judicially recognized exception (JREs), such as destruction of evidence, or exigent circumstances.

Vehicles are another case, they can be searched with PC under JREs.

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Did Pretti ever reach towards his waist?

It not, he didnt do more than some of those vids.

You should have posted the Daniel Shaver video....its the best example of getting shot for less.

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What is the legal difference between this and the first video posted in the OPs post?

Pretti did nothing except you know physically resist arresr while carrying a weapon

Other than that, nothing!!

Decay said:

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Pretti did nothing except you know physically resist arresr while carrying a weapon

Other than that, nothing!!

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This was a very unfortunate situation for all involved. A video has been released showing agents yelling he's got a gun, he's got a gun. Then the same video shows the officers securing his gun and walking away with it meaning it is no longer a threat to the officers. The same video then shows 2 agents pull their guns and shoot the unarmed man while he is on the ground. At this point he was not a threat to the officers, and they should have taken him into custody. Pretti was legally licensed to carry his gun, and I have not seen any videos with him pointing it at any of the officers, so I am not sure why they took the actions that they did.

I would imagine that the pressure will be too great for this to be swept under the rug especially with the clear video showing what appears to be a bad shoot.

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BonfireNerd04 said:

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People should listen to Chris Rock.

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This is what I link to people, all the time.

The difference between my experiences and others, when dealing with law enforcement, has nothing to do with my race or ethnicity. I am simply always respectful and do what they ask.

Now, if they ask to search my car or home, I will tell them I need to see a warrant first. If they were to pull me out aggressively and do it anyways, I wouldn't fight. I would let them do it, and then later grab their badge numbers and names, and file an official complaint. Depending on everything that went down, I would determine whether a complaint was enough or if civil or criminal legal action is required.

It's really not that hard.

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Exactly this. Some years back a highway patrol officer pulled me over and was very aggressive. I responded politely and followed his instructions and did not express any anger. I fought the ticket by having a jury trial and representing myself. The jury found me not guilty after five minutes of deliberation. Upon their verdict, the officer threw his hat down and stormed out of the courtroom muttering "racists." Embarrassing him on the witness stand and getting that verdict was far more satisfying than anything I could have said or done in the heat of the moment. And, I get to tell a great story.

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Decay said:

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Pretti did nothing except you know physically resist arresr while carrying a weapon

Other than that, nothing!!

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This was a very unfortunate situation for all involved. A video has been released showing agents yelling he's got a gun, he's got a gun. Then the same video shows the officers securing his gun and walking away with it meaning it is no longer a threat to the officers. The same video then shows 2 agents pull their guns and shoot the unarmed man while he is on the ground. At this point he was not a threat to the officers, and they should have taken him into custody. Pretti was legally licensed to carry his gun, and I have not seen any videos with him pointing it at any of the officers, so I am not sure why they took the actions that they did.

I would imagine that the pressure will be too great for this to be swept under the rug especially with the clear video showing what appears to be a bad shoot.

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This has been gone over many times, yet you refuse to understand that these are flat out false. Prove the cops knew the gun was gone, and if he was still wrestling with them, he's 100% a threat. Without his ID and permit, he was not legally carrying, committing a felony with the gun is also not legally carrying. Why is that so hard for people like you to grasp? Liberals crying isn't pressure. If the cop got off clean in the Babbit and guy at the hotel cases, no chance this guy gets arrested. Terrible situation created completely by Pretti.

deddog said:

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Daniel Shaver is the worst shoot I've watched.
Cop got away with no prison time, and that is a travesty. Yes i get that Daniel's hand moved towards his trousers, but yet. Truly tragic.
But Daniel was white, and innocent, so no one really cared. Definitely not the sanctimonious posters who've suddenly been visiting this board. And this happened well before St.Floyd.

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This and the Tamir Rice shooting are two of the worst that I've seen.