I refuse to get drug into this.

eric76 said:

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One problem on drug prices is that the manufacturers can combine two inexpensive drugs and charge a great deal for the result.

There's an interesting article at https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-care/are-you-kidding-me-check-out-price-tags-combination-drugs-n1049276 about high priced drugs that are nothing more than two much, much less expensive generic drugs.

For example,

Quote:

---

$14,213.99 for a 90-day supply of generic acid reflux medication.

The price of her generic version of Zegerid, which is manufactured by Dr. Reddy's Laboratories, is significantly higher than the sum of the prices of its main ingredients: omeprazole and sodium bicarbonate. When bought separately, the two individual drugs would cost about $34 for her three-month supply with a coupon.

...

In one example from the study, Merck's Fosamax Plus D had a list price of $39.05 per pill, while its generic components, Alendronate (used to prevent and treat certain types of bone loss) and vitamin D3, cost $1.25. And for Bausch Health Companies Inc., the manufacturer of Zegerid, the list price sits at $86.29 per pill, versus 47 cents for omeprazole (generic Prilosec) and sodium bicarbonate (baking soda).

---

I asked a doctor about this issue something like ten or twenty years ago and he said that he doesn't know what the drugs cost that he prescribes.

---

I pay ~$7 for 14 20mg of omeprazole. Lasts me a month or two. Get it at DG.

$14,213.99 for a month smells like bull*****want to see the receipt. Bull*****

Further, if someone is paying 14 large for a month of Tums.. they're ****ing idiots.

Show me the money.

Science Denier said:

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AJ02 said:

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Haven't had time to read it all through. But regarding second bullet point....speaking purely from a selfish standpoint, it has always wound up being more expensive for me out of pocket when a prescription moves to OTC. I realize my OOP doesn't capture the true "full cost", but ultimately I wound up paying much more for that Zyrtec or Flonase when it became OTC.

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Are you factoring in the cost of the doctor to see you in order to refill the prescription?

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$150. Big deal.

I could use a plan that covers my health care plan's deductible. Just send me the money! (it works for liberals)

agracer said:

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Just let me buy a catastrophic coverage plan like car insurance and pay cash for everything else and prices will magically drop.

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Came here to post this!

These Republicans have no plan. Their only plan is to cancel Obamacare.
The billionaires would love this of course.

agracer said:

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Just let me buy a catastrophic coverage plan like car insurance and pay cash for everything else and prices will magically drop.

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And let that catastrophic coverage be portable and shoppable across state lines and we have a winner. If you are very poor and on Obamacare, then you can get one otherwise you are SOL.

Related to this, when prices drop, if this ever happened, this assumes we can even pay cash for procedures/services. Everyone assumes there is cash price right now that you can negotiate but most people just don't do it because it doesn't seem normal. This isn't true everywhere. I've already shared my surgery experience in December. I asked to pay cash for my procedure and they wouldn't take cash. I had to have insurance to get the procedure done. Thus, your money is no good in some cases.

As a type 1 diabetic and 1099 independent contractor our healthcare system and how much it costs me on a monthly basis is maddening. With how many of our politicians are getting kickbacks from insurance companies, I have no delusions of our system ever getting fixed in my lifetime

And pricing transparency should be table stakes in this entire endeavor that is US healthcare. Very timely because I literally just got a notice about 3 minutes ago for another $1,250 that I owe for my December surgery.

I thought I was done paying. I have zero idea if this will be the last payment or not. This will be my 6th different bill for this one surgery.

JamesPShelley said:

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eric76 said:

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One problem on drug prices is that the manufacturers can combine two inexpensive drugs and charge a great deal for the result.

There's an interesting article at https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-care/are-you-kidding-me-check-out-price-tags-combination-drugs-n1049276 about high priced drugs that are nothing more than two much, much less expensive generic drugs.

For example,

Quote:

---

$14,213.99 for a 90-day supply of generic acid reflux medication.

The price of her generic version of Zegerid, which is manufactured by Dr. Reddy's Laboratories, is significantly higher than the sum of the prices of its main ingredients: omeprazole and sodium bicarbonate. When bought separately, the two individual drugs would cost about $34 for her three-month supply with a coupon.

...

In one example from the study, Merck's Fosamax Plus D had a list price of $39.05 per pill, while its generic components, Alendronate (used to prevent and treat certain types of bone loss) and vitamin D3, cost $1.25. And for Bausch Health Companies Inc., the manufacturer of Zegerid, the list price sits at $86.29 per pill, versus 47 cents for omeprazole (generic Prilosec) and sodium bicarbonate (baking soda).

---

I asked a doctor about this issue something like ten or twenty years ago and he said that he doesn't know what the drugs cost that he prescribes.

---

I pay ~$7 for 14 20mg of omeprazole. Lasts me a month or two. Get it at DG.

$14,213.99 for a month smells like bull*****want to see the receipt. Bull*****

Further, if someone is paying 14 large for a month of Tums.. they're ****ing idiots.

Show me the money.

---

You might want to read that again.

The article did not claim that omeprazole costs $14,213.99 for a month or for a 90 day supply. It said that Zegerid which contains omeprazole and sodium bicarbonate, both of which are relatively inexpensive, costs that much.

David_Puddy said:

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As a type 1 diabetic and 1099 independent contractor our healthcare system and how much it costs me on a monthly basis is maddening. With how many of our politicians are getting kickbacks from insurance companies, I have no delusions of our system ever getting fixed in my lifetime

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By far my biggest peeve with the medical plans is that they are deductible for corporations as a benefit for their employees, but not for people who have no corporate medical plan and have to guy their own. It is very discriminatory against anyone having to buy their own plans.

My healthcare plan for the GOP would be rock simple, and work. Repeal the 'affordable care' act as it is obviously an abject failure.

A refugee from Burundi is welcomed to Detroit, becomes the proud owner of 3 restaurants, is celebrated as a Food Network Champion chef, but when he speaks with Senate candidate Abdul El-Sayed, he complains that he doesn’t get free healthcare. It’s never enough. https://t.co/08LwkifrM1

— Tudor Dixon (@TudorDixon) January 15, 2026

And then denaturalize all immigrants who have come here but have exclaimed they want 'free' healthcare.

eric76 said:

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JamesPShelley said:

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eric76 said:

---

One problem on drug prices is that the manufacturers can combine two inexpensive drugs and charge a great deal for the result.

There's an interesting article at https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-care/are-you-kidding-me-check-out-price-tags-combination-drugs-n1049276 about high priced drugs that are nothing more than two much, much less expensive generic drugs.

For example,

Quote:

---

$14,213.99 for a 90-day supply of generic acid reflux medication.

The price of her generic version of Zegerid, which is manufactured by Dr. Reddy's Laboratories, is significantly higher than the sum of the prices of its main ingredients: omeprazole and sodium bicarbonate. When bought separately, the two individual drugs would cost about $34 for her three-month supply with a coupon.

...

In one example from the study, Merck's Fosamax Plus D had a list price of $39.05 per pill, while its generic components, Alendronate (used to prevent and treat certain types of bone loss) and vitamin D3, cost $1.25. And for Bausch Health Companies Inc., the manufacturer of Zegerid, the list price sits at $86.29 per pill, versus 47 cents for omeprazole (generic Prilosec) and sodium bicarbonate (baking soda).

---

I asked a doctor about this issue something like ten or twenty years ago and he said that he doesn't know what the drugs cost that he prescribes.

---

I pay ~$7 for 14 20mg of omeprazole. Lasts me a month or two. Get it at DG.

$14,213.99 for a month smells like bull*****want to see the receipt. Bull*****

Further, if someone is paying 14 large for a month of Tums.. they're ****ing idiots.

Show me the money.

---

You might want to read that again.

The article did not claim that omeprazole costs $14,213.99 for a month or for a 90 day supply. It said that Zegerid which contains omeprazole and sodium bicarbonate, both of which are relatively inexpensive, costs that much.

---

Looking it up on-line, there are Zegerid OTC that appear to be fairly reasonable. It also says about prescription strength:

Quote:

---

Zegerid prescription prices can vary significantly, with costs starting around $3,238.00 for a 30-capsule supply, depending on factors like insurance coverage and pharmacy choice. For the most accurate pricing, it's best to consult directly with your pharmacy.

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The spineless cowards in DC will NEVER repeal it. They have had ample chances and here we are, still have it crammed down our throats.

eric76 said:

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JamesPShelley said:

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eric76 said:

---

One problem on drug prices is that the manufacturers can combine two inexpensive drugs and charge a great deal for the result.

There's an interesting article at https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-care/are-you-kidding-me-check-out-price-tags-combination-drugs-n1049276 about high priced drugs that are nothing more than two much, much less expensive generic drugs.

For example,

Quote:

---

$14,213.99 for a 90-day supply of generic acid reflux medication.

The price of her generic version of Zegerid, which is manufactured by Dr. Reddy's Laboratories, is significantly higher than the sum of the prices of its main ingredients: omeprazole and sodium bicarbonate. When bought separately, the two individual drugs would cost about $34 for her three-month supply with a coupon.

...

In one example from the study, Merck's Fosamax Plus D had a list price of $39.05 per pill, while its generic components, Alendronate (used to prevent and treat certain types of bone loss) and vitamin D3, cost $1.25. And for Bausch Health Companies Inc., the manufacturer of Zegerid, the list price sits at $86.29 per pill, versus 47 cents for omeprazole (generic Prilosec) and sodium bicarbonate (baking soda).

---

I asked a doctor about this issue something like ten or twenty years ago and he said that he doesn't know what the drugs cost that he prescribes.

---

I pay ~$7 for 14 20mg of omeprazole. Lasts me a month or two. Get it at DG.

$14,213.99 for a month smells like bull*****want to see the receipt. Bull*****

Further, if someone is paying 14 large for a month of Tums.. they're ****ing idiots.

Show me the money.

---

You might want to read that again.

The article did not claim that omeprazole costs $14,213.99 for a month or for a 90 day supply. It said that Zegerid which contains omeprazole and sodium bicarbonate, both of which are relatively inexpensive, costs that much.

---

42 capsules of Zegerid from the CVS here in Corpus is $30.49.

eric76 said:

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David_Puddy said:

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As a type 1 diabetic and 1099 independent contractor our healthcare system and how much it costs me on a monthly basis is maddening. With how many of our politicians are getting kickbacks from insurance companies, I have no delusions of our system ever getting fixed in my lifetime

---

By far my biggest peeve with the medical plans is that they are deductible for corporations as a benefit for their employees, but not for people who have no corporate medical plan and have to guy their own. It is very discriminatory against anyone having to buy their own plans.

---

You start a company and bill your time thru that, your costs are deductible. I was laid off of my job 1 year before I could retire with benefits and opened a company basically for that.

Ag with kids said:

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eric76 said:

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JamesPShelley said:

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eric76 said:

---

One problem on drug prices is that the manufacturers can combine two inexpensive drugs and charge a great deal for the result.

There's an interesting article at https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-care/are-you-kidding-me-check-out-price-tags-combination-drugs-n1049276 about high priced drugs that are nothing more than two much, much less expensive generic drugs.

For example,

Quote:

---

$14,213.99 for a 90-day supply of generic acid reflux medication.

The price of her generic version of Zegerid, which is manufactured by Dr. Reddy's Laboratories, is significantly higher than the sum of the prices of its main ingredients: omeprazole and sodium bicarbonate. When bought separately, the two individual drugs would cost about $34 for her three-month supply with a coupon.

...

In one example from the study, Merck's Fosamax Plus D had a list price of $39.05 per pill, while its generic components, Alendronate (used to prevent and treat certain types of bone loss) and vitamin D3, cost $1.25. And for Bausch Health Companies Inc., the manufacturer of Zegerid, the list price sits at $86.29 per pill, versus 47 cents for omeprazole (generic Prilosec) and sodium bicarbonate (baking soda).

---

I asked a doctor about this issue something like ten or twenty years ago and he said that he doesn't know what the drugs cost that he prescribes.

---

I pay ~$7 for 14 20mg of omeprazole. Lasts me a month or two. Get it at DG.

$14,213.99 for a month smells like bull*****want to see the receipt. Bull*****

Further, if someone is paying 14 large for a month of Tums.. they're ****ing idiots.

Show me the money.

---

You might want to read that again.

The article did not claim that omeprazole costs $14,213.99 for a month or for a 90 day supply. It said that Zegerid which contains omeprazole and sodium bicarbonate, both of which are relatively inexpensive, costs that much.

---

42 capsules of Zegerid from the CVS here in Corpus is $30.49.

---

Zegerid OTC or Zegerid prescription dosages?

eric76 said:

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Ag with kids said:

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eric76 said:

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JamesPShelley said:

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eric76 said:

---

One problem on drug prices is that the manufacturers can combine two inexpensive drugs and charge a great deal for the result.

There's an interesting article at https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-care/are-you-kidding-me-check-out-price-tags-combination-drugs-n1049276 about high priced drugs that are nothing more than two much, much less expensive generic drugs.

For example,

Quote:

---

$14,213.99 for a 90-day supply of generic acid reflux medication.

The price of her generic version of Zegerid, which is manufactured by Dr. Reddy's Laboratories, is significantly higher than the sum of the prices of its main ingredients: omeprazole and sodium bicarbonate. When bought separately, the two individual drugs would cost about $34 for her three-month supply with a coupon.

...

In one example from the study, Merck's Fosamax Plus D had a list price of $39.05 per pill, while its generic components, Alendronate (used to prevent and treat certain types of bone loss) and vitamin D3, cost $1.25. And for Bausch Health Companies Inc., the manufacturer of Zegerid, the list price sits at $86.29 per pill, versus 47 cents for omeprazole (generic Prilosec) and sodium bicarbonate (baking soda).

---

I asked a doctor about this issue something like ten or twenty years ago and he said that he doesn't know what the drugs cost that he prescribes.

---

I pay ~$7 for 14 20mg of omeprazole. Lasts me a month or two. Get it at DG.

$14,213.99 for a month smells like bull*****want to see the receipt. Bull*****

Further, if someone is paying 14 large for a month of Tums.. they're ****ing idiots.

Show me the money.

---

You might want to read that again.

The article did not claim that omeprazole costs $14,213.99 for a month or for a 90 day supply. It said that Zegerid which contains omeprazole and sodium bicarbonate, both of which are relatively inexpensive, costs that much.

---

42 capsules of Zegerid from the CVS here in Corpus is $30.49.

---

Zegerid OTC or Zegerid prescription dosages?

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What is the prescription dosage?

javajaws said:

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None of this really sounds like an actual plan - more like a set of bandaids to apply to the current plan(s) we already have.

I would assume Trump realizes the likelihood of an actual overhaul successfully getting done in a couple years is slim to none which is why he isn't proposing one.

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The " he doesn't have time to implement a plan so why bother "
is truly next level goaltending

He launched his presidential bid 10 years ago
For the past decade he has either been President or a candidate for President. He doesn't have a plan because his options are UHC, cancel the ACA, or try and fix the ACA
All if those options would cost him support from his base

waitwhat? said:

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Bad Trump.

The only way to improve healthcare, both quality and price-wise, is to reduce government interference. Not add additional rules and government influence.

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Starting with Ag subsidies and limiting what can be purchased with food stamps.

YouBet said:

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agracer said:

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Just let me buy a catastrophic coverage plan like car insurance and pay cash for everything else and prices will magically drop.

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And let that catastrophic coverage be portable and shoppable across state lines and we have a winner. If you are very poor and on Obamacare, then you can get one otherwise you are SOL.

Related to this, when prices drop, if this ever happened, this assumes we can even pay cash for procedures/services. Everyone assumes there is cash price right now that you can negotiate but most people just don't do it because it doesn't seem normal. This isn't true everywhere. I've already shared my surgery experience in December. I asked to pay cash for my procedure and they wouldn't take cash. I had to have insurance to get the procedure done. Thus, your money is no good in some cases.

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And we are going to need one more thing, common procedures should have a published list price that must be available for everyone to access. The bs of nobody knowing what something actually costs until after it is performed has to come to an end.

Stinky T said:

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YouBet said:

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agracer said:

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Just let me buy a catastrophic coverage plan like car insurance and pay cash for everything else and prices will magically drop.

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And let that catastrophic coverage be portable and shoppable across state lines and we have a winner. If you are very poor and on Obamacare, then you can get one otherwise you are SOL.

Related to this, when prices drop, if this ever happened, this assumes we can even pay cash for procedures/services. Everyone assumes there is cash price right now that you can negotiate but most people just don't do it because it doesn't seem normal. This isn't true everywhere. I've already shared my surgery experience in December. I asked to pay cash for my procedure and they wouldn't take cash. I had to have insurance to get the procedure done. Thus, your money is no good in some cases.

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And we are going to need one more thing, common procedures should have a published list price that must be available for everyone to access. The bs of nobody knowing what something actually costs until after it is performed has to come to an end.

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Yeah, see my last post before this one. Just happened to me yesterday.

RulesForTheeNotForMe said:

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As someone who went from company sponsored to self-employed insurance in 2025 and now has to settle for crappy insurance plans that my kids PCP's do not even accept while still having to pay $2,400/m for my monthly premiums because one of my children has chronic health issues... I'd like to believe there is a better way to do health insurance vs spending $30k/yr in premiums while still having to spend $6-8k in Out-of-Pocket expenses even with insurance.

I ran the numbers at the end of the year & had I gone the entire year without health insurance and done self-pay for everything. Which included 2 ER visits, 1 Upper & Lower GI scope, tons of PCP visits and a few other items... It would have cost me $~18,000 if I just told them to give me the cash-option. But with insurance, my total spend was $35,500 for the year.... Now 6 years ago, we had a 5-night stay in the Neurology dept for one of my kids, without insurance it would have cost me $38,000 alone... but it billed my Company sponsored insurance $92,000.

Something is wrong with that......

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Yes, you are being overcharged by the aggregate system to subsidize all those who can't or won't pay for the services they get. The way we do mandatory "insurance", it is a back door way to socialize costs so that those with means end up doing almost all the paying.

MouthBQ98 said:

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RulesForTheeNotForMe said:

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As someone who went from company sponsored to self-employed insurance in 2025 and now has to settle for crappy insurance plans that my kids PCP's do not even accept while still having to pay $2,400/m for my monthly premiums because one of my children has chronic health issues... I'd like to believe there is a better way to do health insurance vs spending $30k/yr in premiums while still having to spend $6-8k in Out-of-Pocket expenses even with insurance.

I ran the numbers at the end of the year & had I gone the entire year without health insurance and done self-pay for everything. Which included 2 ER visits, 1 Upper & Lower GI scope, tons of PCP visits and a few other items... It would have cost me $~18,000 if I just told them to give me the cash-option. But with insurance, my total spend was $35,500 for the year.... Now 6 years ago, we had a 5-night stay in the Neurology dept for one of my kids, without insurance it would have cost me $38,000 alone... but it billed my Company sponsored insurance $92,000.

Something is wrong with that......

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Yes, you are being overcharged by the aggregate system to subsidize all those who can't or won't pay for the services they get. The way we do mandatory "insurance", it is a back door way to socialize costs so that those with means end up doing almost all the paying.

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Hadn't even hit me for some reason, but this is why I was not able to pay for my surgery using cash. Procedure was done by a doctor tied to the county hospital so they are, of course, not going to let me pay cash in order to do exactly what you said. Whereas my primary care is cash only because it's a stand-alone private doctor practice. And I likely could have paid cash for my back surgery back in 2019 because that was performed at a doctor owned surgery center.

here's an idea... for every person we get off welfare, we add a marble to the fish bowl like when we were kids in class, working towards a pizza party once it filled up. But instead of the pizza party, the healthcare system gets "paid" directly bypassing insurance companies. Individuals who pass their physicals and have a healthy weight and blood test get rewarded because they fall into the "low risk" category. Otherwise, overweight folks (with the exception of people with disabilities), pay into a high risk insurance plan. They can get out of that situation if they want to, but its up to them. Preventative health care is the future and there should be a reward system in place. The healthcare system is extremely bloated itself, but can be compensated to retain innovation in medical treatments by rooting out payments going to folks who are in this country illegally and getting welfare folks off the tit.

eric76 said:

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eric76 said:

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JamesPShelley said:

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eric76 said:

---

One problem on drug prices is that the manufacturers can combine two inexpensive drugs and charge a great deal for the result.

There's an interesting article at https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-care/are-you-kidding-me-check-out-price-tags-combination-drugs-n1049276 about high priced drugs that are nothing more than two much, much less expensive generic drugs.

For example,

Quote:

---

$14,213.99 for a 90-day supply of generic acid reflux medication.

The price of her generic version of Zegerid, which is manufactured by Dr. Reddy's Laboratories, is significantly higher than the sum of the prices of its main ingredients: omeprazole and sodium bicarbonate. When bought separately, the two individual drugs would cost about $34 for her three-month supply with a coupon.

...

In one example from the study, Merck's Fosamax Plus D had a list price of $39.05 per pill, while its generic components, Alendronate (used to prevent and treat certain types of bone loss) and vitamin D3, cost $1.25. And for Bausch Health Companies Inc., the manufacturer of Zegerid, the list price sits at $86.29 per pill, versus 47 cents for omeprazole (generic Prilosec) and sodium bicarbonate (baking soda).

---

I asked a doctor about this issue something like ten or twenty years ago and he said that he doesn't know what the drugs cost that he prescribes.

---

I pay ~$7 for 14 20mg of omeprazole. Lasts me a month or two. Get it at DG.

$14,213.99 for a month smells like bull*****want to see the receipt. Bull*****

Further, if someone is paying 14 large for a month of Tums.. they're ****ing idiots.

Show me the money.

---

You might want to read that again.

The article did not claim that omeprazole costs $14,213.99 for a month or for a 90 day supply. It said that Zegerid which contains omeprazole and sodium bicarbonate, both of which are relatively inexpensive, costs that much.

---

Looking it up on-line, there are Zegerid OTC that appear to be fairly reasonable. It also says about prescription strength:

Quote:

---

Zegerid prescription prices can vary significantly, with costs starting around $3,238.00 for a 30-capsule supply, depending on factors like insurance coverage and pharmacy choice. For the most accurate pricing, it's best to consult directly with your pharmacy.

---

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Or... just Google Zegerid... and check the OTC prices. Prescription strength? Pffffft.

eric76 said:

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JamesPShelley said:

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eric76 said:

---

One problem on drug prices is that the manufacturers can combine two inexpensive drugs and charge a great deal for the result.

There's an interesting article at https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-care/are-you-kidding-me-check-out-price-tags-combination-drugs-n1049276 about high priced drugs that are nothing more than two much, much less expensive generic drugs.

For example,

Quote:

---

$14,213.99 for a 90-day supply of generic acid reflux medication.

The price of her generic version of Zegerid, which is manufactured by Dr. Reddy's Laboratories, is significantly higher than the sum of the prices of its main ingredients: omeprazole and sodium bicarbonate. When bought separately, the two individual drugs would cost about $34 for her three-month supply with a coupon.

...

In one example from the study, Merck's Fosamax Plus D had a list price of $39.05 per pill, while its generic components, Alendronate (used to prevent and treat certain types of bone loss) and vitamin D3, cost $1.25. And for Bausch Health Companies Inc., the manufacturer of Zegerid, the list price sits at $86.29 per pill, versus 47 cents for omeprazole (generic Prilosec) and sodium bicarbonate (baking soda).

---

I asked a doctor about this issue something like ten or twenty years ago and he said that he doesn't know what the drugs cost that he prescribes.

---

I pay ~$7 for 14 20mg of omeprazole. Lasts me a month or two. Get it at DG.

$14,213.99 for a month smells like bull*****want to see the receipt. Bull*****

Further, if someone is paying 14 large for a month of Tums.. they're ****ing idiots.

Show me the money.

---

You might want to read that again.

The article did not claim that omeprazole costs $14,213.99 for a month or for a 90 day supply. It said that Zegerid which contains omeprazole and sodium bicarbonate, both of which are relatively inexpensive, costs that much.

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Lord. No, it doesn't. With whom are you consulting? I Googled it and it's $20. C'mon man.

You're trying to tell me that the mixture of those two drugs costs $14K a month? That meets your acid test?

Puff, puff, pass.

He's right, the ARTICLE did say that...he didn't say the article had the right price.

"
The price of her generic version of Zegerid, which is manufactured by Dr. Reddy's Laboratories, is significantly higher than the sum of the prices of its main ingredients: omeprazole and sodium bicarbonate. When bought separately, the two individual drugs would cost about $34 for her three-month supply with a coupon.

Zegerid is what's known as a combination drug a medication that combines two or more existing drugs into a single pill or product. While they are convenient for consumers, experts say the price tag of the products contributes to the high cost of health care in America."

Anything that doesn't start with repealing EMTALA is a waste of time.

waitwhat? said:

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Bad Trump.

The only way to improve healthcare, both quality and price-wise, is to reduce government interference. Not add additional rules and government influence.

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Tend to agree with this but if we don't get on this the dems will. Better these rules than dem rules to make elites richer and **** the middle class over.

Science Denier said:

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eric76 said:

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David_Puddy said:

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As a type 1 diabetic and 1099 independent contractor our healthcare system and how much it costs me on a monthly basis is maddening. With how many of our politicians are getting kickbacks from insurance companies, I have no delusions of our system ever getting fixed in my lifetime

---

By far my biggest peeve with the medical plans is that they are deductible for corporations as a benefit for their employees, but not for people who have no corporate medical plan and have to guy their own. It is very discriminatory against anyone having to buy their own plans.

---

You start a company and bill your time thru that, your costs are deductible. I was laid off of my job 1 year before I could retire with benefits and opened a company basically for that.

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would like to hear more about this?

AggieZUUL said:

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here's an idea... for every person we get off welfare, we add a marble to the fish bowl like when we were kids in class, working towards a pizza party once it filled up. But instead of the pizza party, the healthcare system gets "paid" directly bypassing insurance companies. Individuals who pass their physicals and have a healthy weight and blood test get rewarded because they fall into the "low risk" category. Otherwise, overweight folks (with the exception of people with disabilities), pay into a high risk insurance plan. They can get out of that situation if they want to, but its up to them. Preventative health care is the future and there should be a reward system in place. The healthcare system is extremely bloated itself, but can be compensated to retain innovation in medical treatments by rooting out payments going to folks who are in this country illegally and getting welfare folks off the tit.

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That won't work. It will be abused and fraud will be rampant, like SS Disability is now.

agracer said:

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Science Denier said:

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eric76 said:

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David_Puddy said:

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As a type 1 diabetic and 1099 independent contractor our healthcare system and how much it costs me on a monthly basis is maddening. With how many of our politicians are getting kickbacks from insurance companies, I have no delusions of our system ever getting fixed in my lifetime

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By far my biggest peeve with the medical plans is that they are deductible for corporations as a benefit for their employees, but not for people who have no corporate medical plan and have to guy their own. It is very discriminatory against anyone having to buy their own plans.

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You start a company and bill your time thru that, your costs are deductible. I was laid off of my job 1 year before I could retire with benefits and opened a company basically for that.

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would like to hear more about this?

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You can only deduct your healthcare insurance premiums on a Schedule C if your small business is showing a profit. In other words, if you set up a company simply to deduct premiums, but don't have a profit, no bueno.