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There was also a transgender tennis player, MTF, Renee Richards, who sued to be allowed to play on the Women's tour. Years later, even Richards admitted to having a large advantage on that tour due to being a biological male.

It is just a different game between men's and women's tennis. Of course one could just as easily make that statement about every other sport.

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Same could be said about men and women's volleyball. The former is quite boring with lots of aces and very short volleys whereas with the latter it's very exciting, lots of long volleys yet their athleticism is still on display.

I think a lot of Aggies learned this fact this month .

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Yeah - women's tennis is different but just as watchable as men's because the volly's last longer

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There was also a transgender tennis player, MTF, Renee Richards, who sued to be allowed to play on the Women's tour. Years later, even Richards admitted to having a large advantage on that tour due to being a biological male.

It is just a different game between men's and women's tennis. Of course one could just as easily make that statement about every other sport.

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Same could be said about men and women's volleyball. The former is quite boring with lots of aces and very short volleys whereas with the latter it's very exciting, lots of long volleys yet their athleticism is still on display.

I think a lot of Aggies learned this fact this month .

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Men's and Women's volleyball is a lot of fun to watch. Men's is much faster but women's is still enjoyable to watch.

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Men's and Women's volleyball is a lot of fun to watch. Men's is much faster but women's is still enjoyable to watch.

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When the women had boobs.

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Equal pay for equal work. I demand men and women be paid the same.

Kyrgios (M) beat Sabalenka (F): 6-3 6-3 with rules biased towards the F.


Net career earnings:

• Aryna Sabalenka: $45,175,621 (https://www.espn.com/tennis/player/_/id/3038/aryna-sabalenka)
• Nick Kyrgios: $12,802,482 (https://www.espn.com/tennis/player/_/id/1984/nick-kyrgios)

Sabalenka ($45.2M) being the inferior player makes almost FOUR times as much as Kyrgios ($12.8M).

I demand that this grave injustice be immediately rectified.

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Her lawyers are better at negotiations than his? (joking of course.)

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They both have a good perspective on it and are friendly about it. Watched this interview with both of them a couple weeks ago. Basically just want to bring more attention to the sport. One thing I found interesting was the initial additional handicap was going to be she got two serves and he only got one but he made it so they both got one.

I remember in my '20s I used to play pickup basketball with some buddies at the Y. I was not good, can't shoot worth a damn and not athletic. Thus I usually got put on the 5th best player. A few times we played some guys that had a girl player on it that was a former player that was actually All SWC and I got matched up on her. She could dribble and was fundamentally sound but was just so easy to defend. I didn't want to be an ass so as long as she didn''t drive the paint I let her shoot with only token D. It was just really stark to me that my very mediocre bball skilled self (I couldn't even make the Middle School Basketball team) had no problems at all with an All Conference level D1 player. It was just staggering to me how badly I could have made her look, much less someone with real athleticism and talent.

The only purpose of these matches is to occasionally remind the delusional that men and women should not play sports together that involve any type of athleticism.

As a side not I thought the Super Bowl commercial they had from the NFL last year showing a girl playing flag going by NFL players was terrible. It's like telling people that Wakanda is real.

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I remember in my '20s I used to play pickup basketball with some buddies at the Y. I was not good, can't shoot worth a damn and not athletic. Thus I usually got put on the 5th best player. A few times we played some guys that had a girl player on it that was a former player that was actually All SWC and I got matched up on her. She could dribble and was fundamentally sound but was just so easy to defend. I didn't want to be an ass so as long as she didn''t drive the paint I let her shoot with only token D. It was just really stark to me that my very mediocre bball skilled self (I couldn't even make the Middle School Basketball team) had no problems at all with an All Conference level D1 player. It was just staggering to me how badly I could have made her look, much less someone with real athleticism and talent.

The only purpose of these matches is to occasionally remind the delusional that men and women should not play sports together that involve any type of athleticism.

As a side not I thought the Super Bowl commercial they had from the NFL last year showing a girl playing flag going by NFL players was terrible. It's like telling people that Wakanda is real.

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My wife plays Pickleball. She has her group of girlfriends who have been playing at the local gym for almost 2 years now, they play around twice a week. Every now and then she returns excited about her play and tells me how much she's improved. Great, I say as long as you are enjoying it, and it is also good exercise, so go for it. Then my wife started inviting me to come and play and when I demurred, she'd say that she could beat me. That didn't convince me because I really was busy getting some stuff done. Now I am pretty athletic and until recently used to play tennis and compete honorably with my teenage son who played HS varsity tennis and also club tennis in college. But I'd not played in a few years.
So one day I took up the challenge and went along to play against my wife. I was rusty with the new kind of paddles that I was not used to. But soon enough, my old skills came back and I rapidly improved and the first game was a close win for me. Then my wife said she'd beat me in a rematch. Okay, I played her again and I defeated her comprehensively. I was surprised myself, since I was so rusty and not played any racket sports in years and my wife was playing with her gang for hours every week.

I think men and women have bodies designed for different things. Men are better at things like this. Men are also better at driving automobiles and sense vehicles approaching from multiple sides and handle it (as long as the wife isn't yakking and distracting). I find that women cannot multi-task as well while driving. There are other things that women do better so it evens out in the larger picture.

I don't disagree with your overall point about the difference between men and women...But, I will say former competitive tennis player changes the equation..

Pickleball is a joke for most serious (or formerly serious) tennis players.

I jumped in a tourney and beat people that had been playing for years... I had played twice up that point..

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There's the Battle of the Sexes going on in tennis right now. Women's World No 1 Aryna Sabalenka vs Men's No 600 Nick Kyrgios.



Sabalenka is at her tennis peak right now and Kyrgios hasn't played regularly in 3 years and has been injured a lot.

The reason this is political is because it will take on a political color and based on the result of this match, people will start to push recommendations one side or the other. Billie Jean King played a 55 year old Bobby Riggs in the early 70s and beat him and then made it a big win for feminism. Of course, no one brought up the fact that Riggs won Wimbledon in 1939 before King was even born.

If people want to compare the sexes, then go for it. But why have DEI-like rules that favor women? Look at the court, it's a joke! The logic is that women are 9% slower than men so the male gets 9% less area to hit into. There are some other rules that favor Sabalenka.



If the man wins, nothing will happen.
If the woman wins, they will demand for more pay for women because this match "proves" women can beat men.

If the match is all in fun, then it is fine but I am curious to see what the implications are going to be. I think this match is fixed so it seems competitive. It will never be a blow-out. This will be a 3 setter so as to not embarrass Sabalenka.

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That is interesting. I wonder if it is actually possible to design a court such that a man and a woman actually would have an equal likelihood of winning. I bet it would look utterly absurd.

Obligatory Harrison Bergeron reference.

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The woman's side would be like a racquetball court, where she could also hit off the rebound....

One thing I have noticed is that men seem to have better depth perception than women. Obvious physical attributes aside.

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It was just staggering to me how badly I could have made her look, much less someone with real athleticism and talent.

The only purpose of these matches is to occasionally remind the delusional that men and women should not play sports together that involve any type of athleticism.

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Eh, these kind of anecdotes overstate the case somewhat. Objectively, the difference in performance between a top female and a top male competitor in "pure" athletic events (running, jumping, swimming, etc.) is about 10%. At any decent size amateur road race, the top female finisher will beat a large majority of male entrants. At my local Thanksgiving 5K, for example, the top female finished in 16:23, 6th overall. (That time would make most boys varsity cross country teams, and certainly wouldn't get you cut from the JV.)

The problem, imo, comes in when you get a pretty good high school male athlete who looks at the girls' times and thinks "I can win a state title!", get a scholarship, etc. Not so much that any schlub from gym class or the rec center can beat every girl.

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There's the Battle of the Sexes going on in tennis right now. Women's World No 1 Aryna Sabalenka vs Men's No 600 Nick Kyrgios.



Sabalenka is at her tennis peak right now and Kyrgios hasn't played regularly in 3 years and has been injured a lot.

The reason this is political is because it will take on a political color and based on the result of this match, people will start to push recommendations one side or the other. Billie Jean King played a 55 year old Bobby Riggs in the early 70s and beat him and then made it a big win for feminism. Of course, no one brought up the fact that Riggs won Wimbledon in 1939 before King was even born.

If people want to compare the sexes, then go for it. But why have DEI-like rules that favor women? Look at the court, it's a joke! The logic is that women are 9% slower than men so the male gets 9% less area to hit into. There are some other rules that favor Sabalenka.



If the man wins, nothing will happen.
If the woman wins, they will demand for more pay for women because this match "proves" women can beat men.

If the match is all in fun, then it is fine but I am curious to see what the implications are going to be. I think this match is fixed so it seems competitive. It will never be a blow-out. This will be a 3 setter so as to not embarrass Sabalenka.

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That is interesting. I wonder if it is actually possible to design a court such that a man and a woman actually would have an equal likelihood of winning. I bet it would look utterly absurd.

Obligatory Harrison Bergeron reference.

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The woman's side would be like a racquetball court, where she could also hit off the rebound....

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I think you do something to the guys racket to make him unable to hit as hard.

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There's the Battle of the Sexes going on in tennis right now. Women's World No 1 Aryna Sabalenka vs Men's No 600 Nick Kyrgios.



Sabalenka is at her tennis peak right now and Kyrgios hasn't played regularly in 3 years and has been injured a lot.

The reason this is political is because it will take on a political color and based on the result of this match, people will start to push recommendations one side or the other. Billie Jean King played a 55 year old Bobby Riggs in the early 70s and beat him and then made it a big win for feminism. Of course, no one brought up the fact that Riggs won Wimbledon in 1939 before King was even born.

If people want to compare the sexes, then go for it. But why have DEI-like rules that favor women? Look at the court, it's a joke! The logic is that women are 9% slower than men so the male gets 9% less area to hit into. There are some other rules that favor Sabalenka.



If the man wins, nothing will happen.
If the woman wins, they will demand for more pay for women because this match "proves" women can beat men.

If the match is all in fun, then it is fine but I am curious to see what the implications are going to be. I think this match is fixed so it seems competitive. It will never be a blow-out. This will be a 3 setter so as to not embarrass Sabalenka.

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That is interesting. I wonder if it is actually possible to design a court such that a man and a woman actually would have an equal likelihood of winning. I bet it would look utterly absurd.

Obligatory Harrison Bergeron reference.

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The woman's side would be like a racquetball court, where she could also hit off the rebound....

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I think you do something to the guys racket to make him unable to hit as hard.

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Also give the guy a racquetball racquet to play with...

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There's the Battle of the Sexes going on in tennis right now. Women's World No 1 Aryna Sabalenka vs Men's No 600 Nick Kyrgios.



Sabalenka is at her tennis peak right now and Kyrgios hasn't played regularly in 3 years and has been injured a lot.

The reason this is political is because it will take on a political color and based on the result of this match, people will start to push recommendations one side or the other. Billie Jean King played a 55 year old Bobby Riggs in the early 70s and beat him and then made it a big win for feminism. Of course, no one brought up the fact that Riggs won Wimbledon in 1939 before King was even born.

If people want to compare the sexes, then go for it. But why have DEI-like rules that favor women? Look at the court, it's a joke! The logic is that women are 9% slower than men so the male gets 9% less area to hit into. There are some other rules that favor Sabalenka.



If the man wins, nothing will happen.
If the woman wins, they will demand for more pay for women because this match "proves" women can beat men.

If the match is all in fun, then it is fine but I am curious to see what the implications are going to be. I think this match is fixed so it seems competitive. It will never be a blow-out. This will be a 3 setter so as to not embarrass Sabalenka.

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That is interesting. I wonder if it is actually possible to design a court such that a man and a woman actually would have an equal likelihood of winning. I bet it would look utterly absurd.

Obligatory Harrison Bergeron reference.

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The woman's side would be like a racquetball court, where she could also hit off the rebound....

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I think you do something to the guys racket to make him unable to hit as hard.

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Also give the guy a racquetball racquet to play with...

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The guy should have to play with only one arm and holding a sandwich and be half-drunk.

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There's the Battle of the Sexes going on in tennis right now. Women's World No 1 Aryna Sabalenka vs Men's No 600 Nick Kyrgios.



Sabalenka is at her tennis peak right now and Kyrgios hasn't played regularly in 3 years and has been injured a lot.

The reason this is political is because it will take on a political color and based on the result of this match, people will start to push recommendations one side or the other. Billie Jean King played a 55 year old Bobby Riggs in the early 70s and beat him and then made it a big win for feminism. Of course, no one brought up the fact that Riggs won Wimbledon in 1939 before King was even born.

If people want to compare the sexes, then go for it. But why have DEI-like rules that favor women? Look at the court, it's a joke! The logic is that women are 9% slower than men so the male gets 9% less area to hit into. There are some other rules that favor Sabalenka.



If the man wins, nothing will happen.
If the woman wins, they will demand for more pay for women because this match "proves" women can beat men.

If the match is all in fun, then it is fine but I am curious to see what the implications are going to be. I think this match is fixed so it seems competitive. It will never be a blow-out. This will be a 3 setter so as to not embarrass Sabalenka.

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That is interesting. I wonder if it is actually possible to design a court such that a man and a woman actually would have an equal likelihood of winning. I bet it would look utterly absurd.

Obligatory Harrison Bergeron reference.

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The woman's side would be like a racquetball court, where she could also hit off the rebound....

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I think you do something to the guys racket to make him unable to hit as hard.

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Also give the guy a racquetball racquet to play with...

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The guy should have to play with only one arm and holding a sandwich and be half-drunk.

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But, to even things out, the woman makes the sandwich, right?

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I've come to believe this as well. If only we had some science to support this...

They should do a Pickleball match. Unlike Tennis, it's not a power game. I think the females could hold their own.

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I don't disagree with your overall point about the difference between men and women...But, I will say former competitive tennis player changes the equation..

Pickleball is a joke for most serious (or formerly serious) tennis players.

I jumped in a tourney and beat people that had been playing for years... I had played twice up that point..

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Most pro tennis players who transition to pickleball are mid tier players. The skill set is just too different. I don't know the stats, but I would bet pro table tennis players make great pickleball players.

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And now that dude has to hear for the rest of his career about his biggest accomplishment is he beat a woman. How stupid and degrading this was.

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DJT did it twice and I dont hear much about it, actually. Crickets.

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I would interested in seeing just how fast a highly motivated, top-ranked male could beat her in two sets under normal rules. Is 10 minutes unreasonable?

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Yes. There is a lot of standing around in tennis. 6-0, 6-0 would take at least 20 minutes.

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If the top ranked male aces every serve and returns a 1 shot winner on every return, he would have to contact the ball 48 times to win a 3 set match. If we can get a serve every 20 seconds, that's only 16 minutes but then they have to swap sides of the net, etc. so 20 minutes seams pretty likely unless it's televised and commercial breaks are added in.

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We have a lot of senior posters here.

Did any of you watch the King vs Riggs match live on TV or in the stadium?

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I watched it on TV. I was in 7th grade and baking a cake for a class project.

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We have a lot of senior posters here.

Did any of you watch the King vs Riggs match live on TV or in the stadium?

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I watched it on TV. I was in 7th grade and baking a cake for a class project.

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When did they let women into Moore?

See, this is the problem with modern women. They are so delusional all the time and this is encouraged by society, corporations, and simpy men who want to get into their pants by saying the right things.

Bro beat her 6-3 6-3 with highly skewed rules favoring the woman and he wasn't even trying. But she thinks she has a chance!

She's just banking on him backing out so she can strut around to her sisters and say how scared he was. Or if he agrees, she will bank on his sense of being a gentleman that he will let her win this time.

Look at her over-confidence. She wants equal rules and for him to try his best. This is the best part.

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Marry him, you can have a rematch everyday and he will lose just to please you.

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I want Kyrgios to take up the challenge and the wager should be that if he wins, she wears a sexy outfit, makes him a sammich right there, and feeds him on court.

Sabalenka wants 'Battle of the Sexes' rematch and revenge
https://www.wyomingnewsnow.tv/news/national/sabalenka-wants-battle-of-the-sexes-rematch-and-revenge/article_5c81d3b7-2195-59f6-92b9-3afa4f3be97d.html

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World number one Aryna Sabalenka Thursday said she wants a rematch of her "Battle of the Sexes" showdown with Nick Kyrgios so she can get revenge.

Australia's Kyrgios beat the Belarusian 6-3, 6-3 in a highly-publicised showdown in Dubai last Sunday, with modified rules that divided fans.

Sabalenka's side of the court was reduced in size by nine percent in an attempt to restrict Kyrgios' power and speed advantage, while each player only received one serve.


"I think I would definitely do it again," she said ahead of the Brisbane International, her season-opening tournament as she prepares for the Australian Open on January 18.

"I love revenge and I don't like to leave it the way it is."

While keen to face-off with Kyrgios again, Sabalenka said she would want a full court and two serves.
"I think for the next match we will come up with a different format," she said.

"Before the match I didn't realise I would have to adjust and it was a bit tricky for me. I think I would keep the full court but I would take two serves. That would even our level a lot more.

"I always say that when you are losing, you are learning and I learned a lot about his game," she added. "I would do it again. I need revenge."

The contest bore little resemblance to the era-defining 1973 "Battle of the Sexes" encounter between Billie Jean King and Bobby Riggs.

Back then, there was more at stake with the nascent women's professional tour, set up by King, fighting for legitimacy and prize money for female players far lower than for the men.
King, one of the all-time greats of the women's game who was at the peak of her powers, saw off the 55-year-old Riggs, a top player in his day, 6-4, 6-3, 6-3 in Houston.

The Sabalenka-Kyrgios showdown faced backlash, with some calling it a "money grab" while others said it did little to advance the women's game.

But Sabalenka said she felt exhibition tennis, like the Kyrgios contest, was important.

"I think it's really important for tennis to keep it interesting, keep it fresh, keep it new, keep it fun," she said.
She added that she was proud of her part in the "Battle of the Sexes", despite Kyrgios barely playing in recent years and ranked a lowly 671.

"I am happy that I was able to challenge him, make him work and make him physically get tired and mentally get tired," she said.

"I felt really excited to see a man getting tired and going for his full game. It was a really cool experience."

The Brisbane International starts on Sunday with Sabalenka's sights set on a third Australian Open title after winning in 2023 and 2024. She was beaten in the Melbourne Park final last year by Madison Keys.

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She didn't' realize she would have to adjust? The only person who had to adjust was Kyrgios.

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She didn't' realize she would have to adjust? The only person who had to adjust was Kyrgios.

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You under-estimate the propensity of modern women to complain about everything even if it is in their favor.

If I were in her position and wanted to keep dudes from beschlonging my sport I would do exactly what she has done here.

This. I train for marathons and would rate my skill as 'respectable amateur'. The women on my team are mostly ex-D1 cross country or track athletes, an Olympian, and, well, once the distance goes beyond 800M, they're faster than me. Yes, the faster D-1 men are going to smoke them, but if you're running 26 miles and holding a pace faster than 6:30, only a couch warrior is going to take pot shots at that. I've learned a hell of a lot about cross training, recovery, consistency, etc. from running with great women athletes.

I also started learning to golf this year and advice that I took seriously was to watch the LPGA, because women generally play with far better technique to pay attention to as a beginner.

Played in a lot of scrambles. Any time you see a team with a woman shes likely their cheat code.

"Men get a new club, women get a lesson" is a truism.

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"Men get a new club, women get a lesson" is a truism.

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The above was said by a simp trying to get a quickie.

(I don't mean you, Malibu)

lol no one on on Texags would get a point off of Nick....some of yall know nothing about mens tennis.

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lol no one on on Texags would get a point off of Nick....some of yall know nothing about mens tennis.

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Correct. No one is saying we would.

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Played in a lot of scrambles. Any time you see a team with a woman shes likely their cheat code.

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Won a scramble tournament because we had a D2 women's golfer on our team. The foursome said it regularly wins tournaments because of her. The guys are pretty average, 80s players, but when you have a teammate bombing drives from the red tees in the middle of the fairway, letting one of the guys have a shot to be on in two every hole, it's a lot of dang fun haha.

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lol no one on on Texags would get a point off of Nick....some of yall know nothing about mens tennis.

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Did anyone said they would?

Or did you just make that up.