Of A&M's 982 million in tuition/fees revenue, 107 million from foreigners

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shiftyandquick
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7:21a, 12/15/25
China and India lead the way in terms of number of students.

This just goes to show what a huge financial hit it would be for A&M and most other universities to suddenly not have the ability to enroll foreign students, and particularly students from China. Trump cited that as a reason why he was not going to stop/limit this.

https://dallasexpress.com/education/texas-ams-real-12th-man-100m-yearly-from-foreign-students-including-china-and-india/
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7:26a, 12/15/25
I don't think the $100+ million is worth the loss of proprietary technology and ideas, though. Besides, traffic would be safer in the BCS area.
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7:26a, 12/15/25
Could we not fill those seats with American kids and offset the loss of those fees?

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In reply to Burrus86 • 7:28a, 12/15/25
Burrus86 said:
I don't think the $100+ million is worth the loss of proprietary technology and ideas, though. Besides, traffic would be safer in the BCS area.


And McDonalds less crowded on Thanksgiving day!
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In reply to Shooter McGavin • 7:29a, 12/15/25
Shooter McGavin said:
Could we not fill those seats with American kids and offset the loss of those fees?


the foreigners presumably pay out of state tuition, so no, unless there are a lot more out of state people that want to pay full freight.

It's about 40k per year for out of state tuition.
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7:30a, 12/15/25
So OP thinks the University should keep the money and lose our freedom?
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In reply to shiftyandquick • 7:30a, 12/15/25
a ton from Qatar as well. financial more so than actual students.

to buy influence within the United States.
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In reply to shiftyandquick • 7:35a, 12/15/25
You act like there aren't 100k other Texas kids that wouldn't pay to go to school in those spots. I know plenty of kids that didn't get in due to the competition.
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7:37a, 12/15/25
From Google's AI:
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Texas A&M University hosts a significant international student population, making up over 12% of its total student body, which on a campus of over 70,000 students means thousands of students from over 130 countries contribute to its diverse learning environment, with figures often cited around 6,000+ international students.

The University of Texas at Austin (UT Austin) hosted over 6,600 international students from 130 countries for the 2024-2025 academic year, with more than 4,600 being graduate students and nearly 2,000 undergraduates, enriching the campus with global talent and diverse perspectives.

Stanford University has a significant international student body, with roughly 24% of its total students being international, translating to about 17,212 foreign students, based on recent data around May 2025, though specific numbers vary slightly by source and year

MIT has a significant international student population, with roughly 3,400+ international students as of Fall 2024, making up about 29% of the total student body, with most being graduate students and coming from countries like China, India, and South Korea.

Columbia University hosts a significant international student body, with numbers varying slightly by year and source, but generally around 20,000+ international students as of 2022-2023, making up roughly 30-40% of its total enrollment, with large contingents from China, India, and Canada, placing it among top U.S. universities for international students.

For the 2024-2025 academic year, Harvard had approximately 6,800 international degree students, making up about 27% of the total enrollment, with significant variations by school (e.g., higher percentages at the Kennedy School and Public Health). These students come from over 140 countries, with China, Canada, India, South Korea, and the UK being the top origins.


As a % of student population, A&M has lower % of international students than the elite schools and tu.

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In reply to shiftyandquick • 7:47a, 12/15/25
shiftyandquick said:
Shooter McGavin said:
Could we not fill those seats with American kids and offset the loss of those fees?


the foreigners presumably pay out of state tuition, so no, unless there are a lot more out of state people that want to pay full freight.

It's about 40k per year for out of state tuition.


Now subtract the cost of instate tuition. It's a hit, but it's also one we can manage.
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In reply to Burrus86 • 7:50a, 12/15/25
Burrus86 said:
Besides, traffic would be safer in the BCS area.

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8:02a, 12/15/25
Not the mission of the flagship state funded STEM school of Texas to educate foreigners, especially those from countries inimical to the USA. All that foreign money is corruption in kind. And they never go home.
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In reply to Burrus86 • 8:04a, 12/15/25
Burrus86 said:
I don't think the $100+ million is worth the loss of proprietary technology and ideas, though. Besides, traffic would be safer in the BCS area.


How does the $100mm weigh against the state funding?

How does it compare to the funding from the state through time?


It really upsets me to think of a foreigner benefiting from the untold billions we have funded our state schools while displacing our own native born sons and daughters
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8:07a, 12/15/25
OP favors foreign born students over natives.

Brilliant take OP.
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In reply to shiftyandquick • 8:09a, 12/15/25
shiftyandquick said:
Shooter McGavin said:
Could we not fill those seats with American kids and offset the loss of those fees?


the foreigners presumably pay out of state tuition, so no, unless there are a lot more out of state people that want to pay full freight.

It's about 40k per year for out of state tuition.


No so fast.

Most of the foreign students are grad students. If they get enough scholarship money, they qualify for in state tuition. Most of them would be on some fellowship or assistantship that qualifies for in state tuition. Most of them are not paying out of pocket to go to school, rather are being paid (albeit, a very small amount).
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8:10a, 12/15/25
When I was a grad student, the teaching and research assistants got in state tuition since they were employees of the university. Is this still the case? If so, a lot of these international students are paying in state tuition,
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8:16a, 12/15/25
Would rather have that 10%+ filled by Texans.
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8:19a, 12/15/25
I am fine with no foreign students and make up as much of the $107 million as you can by replacing them with American kids.
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8:22a, 12/15/25
There are so many super smart Texas kids who are going out of state or private because they can't get in to aTm or Texas right now. We'd be fine and wouldn't miss a beat financially.
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In reply to shiftyandquick • 8:24a, 12/15/25
Has to be done though. We should've never allowed universities to become dependent on foreign students.
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In reply to shiftyandquick • 8:27a, 12/15/25
shiftyandquick said:
Shooter McGavin said:
Could we not fill those seats with American kids and offset the loss of those fees?


the foreigners presumably pay out of state tuition, so no, unless there are a lot more out of state people that want to pay full freight.

It's about 40k per year for out of state tuition.

I'm sure A&M is very attractive to out of state students. If there's a shortage then the school should market more to out of state kids.
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8:31a, 12/15/25
All I know is, when I watch sip sporting events on TV and they pan the crowd, the crowd is very……….diverse.
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8:44a, 12/15/25
People getting baited once again by shifty's trolling takes.

Ignore that account and it will cease to post.
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In reply to DrEvazanPhD • 9:21a, 12/15/25
DrEvazanPhD said:
OP favors foreign born students over natives.

Brilliant take OP.

I make no judgment about it.

I point out why Trump supports it and facilitates it. Trump supports foreign students over natives because of money.
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In reply to shiftyandquick • 9:28a, 12/15/25
shiftyandquick said:
Shooter McGavin said:
Could we not fill those seats with American kids and offset the loss of those fees?


the foreigners presumably pay out of state tuition, so no, unless there are a lot more out of state people that want to pay full freight.

It's about 40k per year for out of state tuition.

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In reply to Shooter McGavin • 12:32p, 12/15/25
Shooter McGavin said:
Could we not fill those seats with American kids and offset the loss of those fees?


I would even accept a few from California in addition to the American kids.
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In reply to shiftyandquick • 12:35p, 12/15/25
shiftyandquick said:
DrEvazanPhD said:
OP favors foreign born students over natives.

Brilliant take OP.

I make no judgment about it.

I point out why Trump supports it and facilitates it. Trump supports foreign students over natives because of money.

It's a terrible decision by Trump.

A&M should take the financial hit and find this money elsewhere or cut costs to compensate.

Easy decision if you put country first.
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12:36p, 12/15/25
There are no Chinese students.

Only Chinese spies posing as students.
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In reply to akm91 • 12:37p, 12/15/25
akm91 said:
Thread not going the way OP thought it would.

It never does for shifty.

Constant dick-steps.
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In reply to Maroon Elephant • 12:40p, 12/15/25
Maroon Elephant said:
There are so many super smart Texas kids who are going out of state or private because they can't get in to aTm or Texas right now. We'd be fine and wouldn't miss a beat financially.

How much of the admin costs goes to the support staff for these students?

The cost savings (thinking like an H1B CEO here) of cutting that staff would go a long way to "not missing a beat". Just saying.
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In reply to shiftyandquick • 3:29p, 12/15/25
shiftyandquick said:
China and India lead the way in terms of number of students.

More so than you'd expect from them being the two most populated countries in the world?
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In reply to shiftyandquick • 3:34p, 12/15/25
shiftyandquick said:
China and India lead the way in terms of number of students.

This just goes to show what a huge financial hit it would be for A&M and most other universities to suddenly not have the ability to enroll foreign students, and particularly students from China. Trump cited that as a reason why he was not going to stop/limit this.

https://dallasexpress.com/education/texas-ams-real-12th-man-100m-yearly-from-foreign-students-including-china-and-india/

Good thing those numbers are incorrect.
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3:43p, 12/15/25
The number of students from China, Russia and Iran should be exactly zero
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3:51p, 12/15/25
I thought A&M was beyond capacity anyways. Send them home.
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In reply to shiftyandquick • 4:01p, 12/15/25
shiftyandquick said:
Shooter McGavin said:
Could we not fill those seats with American kids and offset the loss of those fees?


the foreigners presumably pay out of state tuition, so no, unless there are a lot more out of state people that want to pay full freight.

It's about 40k per year for out of state tuition.


Depends.

Grad school foreigners get "assistantships" (teacher or research) and get in state tuition and a salary. Something an out of state US citizen won't get.
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