$87 million a week to the Taliban

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nortex97
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I guess I should frame this up: I am opposed to this weekly cash drop.

It needs to stop and people should demand answers. Tim Burchett (TN 2nd, Knoxville), Sen. Risch (Idaho), etc. WTAF is this money doing for Americans?

We are approaching Trump/Vance/Rubio being in office for one full year and not one single time have I seen this explained or even an attempt at an explanation. This seems far more morally significant/imperative than some trivial debate about Obamacare subsidies or 'affordability' to me.
Decay
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Nice of them to post about it on social media.

The next shipment should be C4
5Amp
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WTF
rocky the dog
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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
redsquirrelAG
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If you pay taxes, you contribute to terrorism, you fund it.

Until Americans grow balls, terrorism continues.
Over_ed
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nortex97 said:

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We are approaching Trump/Vance/Rubio being in office for one full year and not one single time have I seen this explained or even an attempt at an explanation. This seems far more morally significant/imperative than some trivial debate about Obamacare subsidies or 'affordability' to me.

Considering the source of the video, I'd like to give republicans the 48 hour rule. Hard to do that, as little as they've done in the last year and their silence on most key issues.
torrid
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So every single American taxpayer goes on the terrorism watch list? Getting extra groping from TSA, if they even let you fly?

But no change for those who don't pay taxes.
MJ20/20
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The US Government needs to be torn down and rebuilt at this point. It's like a house infested with termites and black mold. Next to impossible to get rid of all the issues and detrimental to continue living there. Problem is who do you trust enough to rebuild it?
infinity ag
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So Trump is also like a Dem...
infinity ag
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MJ20/20 said:

The US Government needs to be torn down and rebuilt at this point. It's like a house infested with termites and black mold. Next to impossible to get rid of all the issues and detrimental to continue living there. Problem is who do you trust enough to rebuild it?


There is no way out. Every civilization is born, reaches the top and dies. Chinese. Indian, Egyptian, Mesopotamian.

The American civilization won't be any different. I won't be surprised if 5000 years ago, some politicians of some great civilization gave out their version of H1B visas to foreigners who come in and infested it from within. Like also how Muslims are doing to UK. UK was a great country built by the English over centuries. Now? It is descending into an Islamic slumhole.
nortex97
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I'm not sure who to trust in DC at this point. It's just sad. There are just so damn many shades/filters of deception.

Folks following Sarah Adams know good and well our intelligence folks are willfully ignoring very real/credible threats. Long post worth reading imho:
Lathspell
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Sarah adams is on another level. Unfortunately, she's so knowledgeable and into this that it's hard for the layman to understand everything.

At the minimum, the money needs to stop. That's insane.
Daveintx
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OR........hear me out...........

Eliminate the Taliban and there's nothing there to send our cash to
MouthBQ98
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Before blame gets thrown all around we must determine what program this was being funded by, who ran it, who was aware of it, and what its purpose is. Are we paying someone for something we really benefit from as a nation? Are we bribing the Taliban leadeship to keep local extremists in line and away from American interests?

I hate the concept of what amounts to paying a tribute or bribe on principle but if the long term costs of cutting off the funds and dealing with an escalated terrorism threat that does start to affect American interests again projects to be higher, than a least cost solution that works is fine. I just want to see what am we are buying because if it is BS or not a good value proposition, then of course we cut off the money.
YouBet
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Daveintx said:

OR........hear me out...........

Eliminate the Taliban and there's nothing there to send our cash to


Yeah, we tried that already. Remember the 20 year war we just left?

How about we just stop sending money. That takes one guy signing something. Done.
infinity ag
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Trump has been in office for 11 months. I was hoping for more of a cleanup.

Just being "better than Biden" isn't good enough. He has another 3 years, he should accelerate the process.

Also, Trump and his people need to STFU about Biden. Enough. We elected him to fix Biden's crap but if he keeps talking that he is better than Biden, it tells me he isn't doing much.
MJ20/20
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Interesting. Thanks for posting.
nortex97
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We have legislation pending to do that. Thune won't put it up for a vote.


I'd post more but Sen. Risch does blame Democrats for stalling this bill.

It seems simple to me.

Yes, deport illegal aliens/close our borders to 'migration' but also 'stop funding terrorists.'

I'm just a simple man though.
Sid Farkas
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idk how to take this news...what if govt reformers in, say, Israel went thru their budget and removed funding for pagers for Hamas?
Detmersdislocatedshoulder
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rocky the dog said:




what if? that's exactly what they are doing. action reaction they cause problem then they offer up
solution that strips our rights.
Ag in Tiger Country
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Over_ed said:

nortex97 said:

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We are approaching Trump/Vance/Rubio being in office for one full year and not one single time have I seen this explained or even an attempt at an explanation. This seems far more morally significant/imperative than some trivial debate about Obamacare subsidies or 'affordability' to me.

Considering the source of the video, I'd like to give republicans the 48 hour rule. Hard to do that, as little as they've done in the last year and their silence on most key issues.


Well, according to some of MY sources, one of the significant contractual obligations within the overall 'agreement' between the USA & the Taliban, in order to guarantee future payments, is that Afghan heroin only goes to Iran & a select few of former Soviet states due to specific circumstances/ reasons (such as Belarus, South Ossetia, Uzbekistan, etc.), as well as into the first & foremost target: RUSSIA.

The reasons are quite simple, including but not limited to the following, which are the primary aims concerning Afghan heroin that's now being produced by the Taliban in record numbers never seen before- except when we were present beginning in 2002:
1) It's in America's interests for those designated countries to receive Afghan heroin so as to encourage widespread opioid epidemics; &,
2) Fentanyl, instead of Afghan &/or Thai heroin, allows our agencies & the MSM to direct their focus & sway public opinion to validate & allow approval for the implementation of agreed-upon "plans" targeting prearranged boogymen like China, Mexico, Columbia, & (you guessed it) VENEZUELA!!
Hubert J. Farnsworth
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MJ20/20 said:

The US Government needs to be torn down and rebuilt at this point. It's like a house infested with termites and black mold. Next to impossible to get rid of all the issues and detrimental to continue living there. Problem is who do you trust enough to rebuild it?


That is the truth. I don't know who you can trust.
Henriques
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Inexcusable this far into Trump 2.

The only thing those goat ****ers merit is molten ordnance.

President Trump and SECSTATE Rubio need to explain why this is still a thing.

ts5641
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How the **** does this keep happening? Why don't we stop it today?
Buford T. Justice
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Pssst…we are buying the heroin. Then, we bring it back here for sale.
"Gimme a diablo sandwhich and a dr. pepper...to go"
Ulysses90
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Quote:

Well, according to some of MY sources, one of the significant contractual obligations within the overall 'agreement' between the USA & the Taliban, in order to guarantee future payments, is that Afghan heroin only goes to Iran & a select few of former Soviet states due to specific circumstances/ reasons (such as Belarus, South Ossetia, Uzbekistan, etc.), as well as into the first & foremost target: RUSSIA.


When making a contract or "obligation" with another party, the contracting officer usually dies market research to ensure that the other party can deliver the product or service that they claim to peiduce. There is no mechanism to even measure, let alone ensure, that Afghan opium is aimed at Russia and Iran. Unlike a beam of light that can be aimed, money and drugs go wherever there is a demand. The CIA abd State Department don't know how to do what they claim to be doing.

It was US money and military presence that resurrected the Afghan opium industry after the Taliban had crushed production by 99% between 200-2001.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0955395904000945

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Afghanistan was the main source of the world's illicit heroin supply for most of the 1990s. From late 2000 and the year that followed, the Taliban enforced a ban on poppy farming via threats, forced eradication, and public punishment of transgressors. The result was a 99% reduction in the area of opium poppy farming in Taliban-controlled areas.


It is now the flow of US money to the Taliban that props up the opium trade that would not exist if the Taliban were only concerned with enforcing sharia on their population. In the international drug market, their peoduct cannot compete with fentanyl in either potency or peice. US government money is far more addictive than heroin. Cut it off and let them go cold turkey.

Why would anyone give credulity to a CIA claim that they can steer the international narcotics trade merely by paying off a corrupt foreign? The CIA has no track record of success in what they claim as their core competency. They cannot link cause and effect at the strategic level and they have.

The weekly payments of cash to the Taliban are nothing but deposits to the offshore retirement accounts of CIA and State Department personnel and the Congressmen who shill for them. Take away the funding and just keep sinking drug boats attempting to reach US shores. Economics is not about solutions but about tradeoffs based on incentives. The best incentive is not sending any money to the Taliban so that they can get back to their sharia enforcement principles. Destroying drug boats also seems to be a good incentive based on just the amount of shrieking about it from leftists. Just stop the funding.
Bird Poo
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Buford T. Justice said:

Pssst…we are buying the heroin. Then, we bring it back here for sale.


Big pharma?
Law-Apt_3G
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infinity ag said:

Trump has been in office for 11 months. I was hoping for more of a cleanup.

Just being "better than Biden" isn't good enough. He has another 3 years, he should accelerate the process.

Also, Trump and his people need to STFU about Biden. Enough. We elected him to fix Biden's crap but if he keeps talking that he is better than Biden, it tells me he isn't doing much.


STFU 11 months is SHAMEFUL the Republicans have not gotten President Trump's AG appointments. All Trump can do is talk while these lame ass Republicans sucking their thumbs not appointing the exact people who do the cleanup of the criminal Democrats.
nortex97
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Update, yet another duplicitous Democrat (Shaheen) who runs as a moderate in New Hampshire but is a straight up taliban apologist is blocking passage of the bill from committee this afternoon.

Can't risk harming those NGO money-laundering operations.
samurai_science
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Then just make it a clean bill and move on to the next battle.
YouBet
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samurai_science said:

Then just make it a clean bill and move on to the next battle.


This. WTF is this not its own bill?? This is such easy **** to do and our government sabotages everything. There should literally not be a single person in Congress who would be against this.

Good god almighty.
FTAG 2000
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Wonder what the rake is for Congress off the top.

And that money just going to keep them quiet about all the money laundering. Just like Ukraine.
nortex97
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Tom West, former Afghan envoy under Biden, apparently has his panties in a twist over DNI Gabbard revoking his security clearance over his ties to the Taliban and that's why it's getting blocked.

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Afghan Voice Agency (AVA) - International Service: The US National Intelligence Agency has announced that it has revoked the security clearance of Tom West and 36 other former and current officials. The organization's statement said that these individuals are accused of "politicizing information, using classified data for personal and partisan purposes, and disregarding national security priorities."

The security agency also accused all of these individuals of "failing to protect classified information and violating professional standards in intelligence analysis."

Tom West was appointed as the US special representative for Afghanistan after the Americans fled Afghanistan and resigned from this position in October last year. He previously played a role in the Doha Agreement negotiations and currently serves on the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

He looks just exactly as one would expect him to.

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Early in his career, Tom was a political officer at U.S. Embassy Islamabad and Pakistan desk officer in Washington. Before rejoining government in January 2021, Tom was a Vice President at The Cohen Group, a global strategic advisory firm, and a non-resident scholar at The Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. A native of State College, Pennsylvania, Tom earned an M.A. in International Relations from the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies and a B.A. in International Studies from Johns Hopkins University.

Bad words. Never, ever vote for a Democrat.
Biz Ag
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How much for the Big Guy?
nortex97
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Sen Peter Welch, (D, Vermont)…blocks the bill.

Yet another fake 'moderate' Democrat who loves terrorists and lied his way into office by deceiving 'independent' and 'moderate' voters.
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In Vermont (At-large House seat, 20062022):
He positioned himself as a pragmatic, center-left Democrat in a state that values independent-minded politicians. Welch emphasized bipartisanship, rural issues, affordability, and environmental protection without embracing the progressive/left-wing label associated with Bernie Sanders. He frequently highlighted his ability to work across the aisle (e.g., co-sponsoring bills with Republicans on drug pricing and rural broadband) and avoided the "democratic socialist" or sharp progressive rhetoric of the Squad/AOC wing.

- 2022 Senate campaign (succeeded retiring Patrick Leahy):
Welch ran explicitly as a moderate/pragmatic alternative in the Democratic primary against more progressive challengers (notably Isaac Evans-Frantz and Niki Thran). His campaign messaging stressed "getting things done," lowering costs, protecting Social Security/Medicare, and climate actionclassic moderate-Dem talking pointswhile steering clear of Medicare for All, Green New Dealstyle framing, or defund-the-police rhetoric. He won the primary by a 3-to-1 margin, largely because Democratic primary voters viewed him as the sensible, electable moderate.

- Interest-group ratings (20222025):
- Progressive Punch lifetime score in the House: around 8590 % (solidly liberal but not far-left)
- ADA (Americans for Democratic Action) liberal quotient: usually 8595 %
- ACA (American Conservative Union): 010 %
- He has a 100 % rating from Planned Parenthood and NARAL, but only about 1020 % from the NRA (typical moderate-Dem position in Vermont).

Democrats hate Americans.
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