Communism in America

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Roparzh
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92,000 Americans died fighting to prevent the spread of communism in the Korea and Vietnam wars. Now, there is a communist mayor in NYC. What a huge waste of American lives! This is a dishonor to every military service member. Why do they serve when this country has shown they don't want the military?
titan
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Almost as baffling is why do colleges and schools carry on so much about Fascism but allow and empower Marxist Professors and teaching socialist and communist philosophy? Why are there not Fascist equivalents if going to allow that?

Why is it okay to be Marxist or even Marxist lite?

We fought World wars against both. Fascism in WW II, and the ComIntern both after World War I (see Murmansk, others) and the whole Cold War.

Why is one given such a pass by the press, government, and school?

Van Jones is a declared Marxist on CNN. Yet it seems unfathomable a declared Fascist would be allowed such a position. Even one being interviewed is considered way out of line.

So why all the passes given to Marxism?
B-1 83
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Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
titan
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Can any comment on the why of this? Especially moderates or Never Trumpers? How do you justify the
disparity?
Sid Farkas
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We taught all post baby boom generations that capitalism has its roots in robber baron-ism and is only held in check by leftist activism.

bottom line, we indoctrinated three plus generations in stupidity.
backintexas2013
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When a person sucks at life they look for a new system assuming that will fix them being a loser. Look no further than some posters here. They beg for daddy government because of their own failures.
Tom Fox
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Sid Farkas said:

We taught all post baby boom generations that capitalism has its roots in robber baron-ism and is only held in check by leftist activism.

bottom line, we're indoctrinated three plus generations in stupidity.


What is funny is full blown robber baron capitalism is still superior to socialism.
titan
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That explains WHY the students and listerners buy in, yes, but it doesn't explain the institutional endorsing of communism while outlawing fascism (as a topic, a discussion philosophy, etc) Why are not both banned and black balled equally. Why are Marxist Profs and anchors viable?
Tom Fox
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backintexas2013 said:

When a person sucks at life they look for a new system assuming that will fix them being a loser. Look no further than some posters here. They beg for daddy government because of their own failures.


Individual failure is always just a quick trip to a mirror to identify the problem.
91AggieLawyer
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titan said:


Almost as baffling is why do colleges and schools carry on so much about Fascism but allow and empower Marxist Professors and teaching socialist and communist philosophy? Why are there not Fascist equivalents if going to allow that?


They're not against it; they're lying about what Fascism is. They're alleging it is any conservative or Republican in charge and/or any attempt to reign in the power of the democrat party or the left.
titan
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Sid Farkas said:

We taught all post baby boom generations that capitalism has its roots in robber baron-ism and is only held in check by leftist activism.

bottom line, we indoctrinated three plus generations in stupidity.

Now that seems may be part of it. I vividly remember the robber-baron emphasis and the perils of "caveat emptor" being pitched the way they were. Mostly in teachings related to the Gilded Age, but you have a point that it might be part of an overall message. Certainly the original Progressive push back was lionized. It seemed rightly, at least in terms of the meat packing factories, etc.

But maybe you are right that this `veneer of negativity' never gets lifted or counter-acted. At least not in class.
Ellis Wyatt
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titan said:


That explains WHY the students and listerners buy in, yes, but it doesn't explain the institutional endorsing of communism while outlawing fascism (as a topic, a discussion philosophy, etc) Why are not both banned and black balled equally. Why are Marxist Profs and anchors viable?
A large portion of the professors are Marxists. They are cranking out indoctrinated soldiers. The indoctrinated kids are too stupid to see what's coming. They think it will be utopia.
titan
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Ellis Wyatt said:

titan said:


That explains WHY the students and listerners buy in, yes, but it doesn't explain the institutional endorsing of communism while outlawing fascism (as a topic, a discussion philosophy, etc) Why are not both banned and black balled equally. Why are Marxist Profs and anchors viable?

A large portion of the professors are Marxists. They are cranking out indoctrinated soldiers. The indoctrinated kids are too stupid to see what's coming. They think it will be utopia.

Any ideas why BOR and University admins tolerate or employ such, or are they also Marxists? Just don't understand why such a off the cuff enemy of the Cold War (every bit as sterotype and off cuff as Nazi as enemy) is allowed to teach and push their philosophy. Especially because it is not like it is a case of free speech absolutism. or Fascism and monarch would get the same kind of advocates employed by Universities. (and Media) After all there, really are differences that could be discussed.
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titan said:


Can any comment on the why of this? Especially moderates or Never Trumpers? How do you justify the
disparity?


If you are truly anti-socialist/anti-communist, you should be against:
The government demanding ownership in private American companies. That is the state controlling the means of production.
The federal government dictating ideology to colleges and threatening their funding. That is state thought control.
The militarization of domestic policing (for example, National Guard) to enforce federal will over local authority. That is pure authoritarianism.

As i stated previously Trump supporters already have accepted and cheered on the principles of communism. Just didn't really think about it on any level.
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The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
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Tom Fox said:

Sid Farkas said:

We taught all post baby boom generations that capitalism has its roots in robber baron-ism and is only held in check by leftist activism.

bottom line, we're indoctrinated three plus generations in stupidity.


What is funny is full blown robber baron capitalism is still superior to socialism.


Tom Fox
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APHIS AG
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In England, a WWII vet lamented, seeing his country as to what it has become, that his and the sacrifice of all the Soldiers that sacrificed for freedom was not worth it.

And we are following close behind.
titan
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Geminiv said:

titan said:


Can any comment on the why of this? Especially moderates or Never Trumpers? How do you justify the
disparity?


If you are truly anti-socialist/anti-communist, you should be against:
The government demanding ownership in private American companies. That is the state controlling the means of production.

What's that refer to currently?

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The federal government dictating ideology to colleges and threatening their funding. That is state thought control.

See communism in America thread title. When they are pushing things like socialism, marxism and CRT thought are fine with unorthodox ways of putting a stop to it.

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The militarization of domestic policing (for example, National Guard) to enforce federal will over local authority. That is pure authoritarianism.

Ambivalent that one, have to admit. Some seems a little beyond, other parts firmly in the purview of simple enforcement. Similar to college issue, under Biden lawlessness in this regard was allowed to go so far some overcompensating seems needed. But ambivalent.
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As i stated previously Trump supporters already have accepted and cheered on the principles of communism. Just didn't really think about it on any level.

The ones you are referring to are more part of the authoritarian temptation than communism, but point made.

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We actually aren't sure how many American citizens actually voted for communism. That's because all the states that vote for it don't have voter ID, have mass mail balloting, voter harvesting and are loaded with illegals and vote counting gets interrupted for even more cheating whenever the democrat is losing.

I mean if communism was really that popular in America, Dems would be ok with voter ID and they would t have to import third world parasites and criminals to vote them into perpetual power.
Burdizzo
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When communists speak freely in America





When anti-communists speak in China
titan
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Speaking of Communism in America, understand that in NYC it also means Islamicization. Check out this video and podcast discussion. Its all interesting, but for now, go to the 17:40 mark and watch till about 21 minute mark. Just see what you think.

(Later on it gets into the crazy internal civil war building with the right on some points and I do agree, that this kind of stuff could lead to botch 2026, but that's off topic for above)

BudAg97
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Excellent! This is Rocky worthy.
Ragoo
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AOC is getting hefty
Hubert J. Farnsworth
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Roparzh said:

92,000 Americans died fighting to prevent the spread of communism in the Korea and Vietnam wars. Now, there is a communist mayor in NYC. What a huge waste of American lives! This is a dishonor to every military service member. Why do they serve when this country has shown they don't want the military?


It is mind blowing and shows that democrat voters are ret@rds that don't have a clue what they are voting for. Communism and Socialism are garbage, yet these idiots vote for it.
aggiehawg
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Tom Fox said:

Sid Farkas said:

We taught all post baby boom generations that capitalism has its roots in robber baron-ism and is only held in check by leftist activism.

bottom line, we're indoctrinated three plus generations in stupidity.


What is funny is full blown robber baron capitalism is still superior to socialism.

Robber Barons employed a crap ton of people, building a middle class over the years. Not exactly their first goal but the end result because they did know having good management people was valuable to THEM.

I remember my Dad telling me about his first interview for a job in the oil industry. Hot, no A/C windows open. Flies in the office. One was really bothering the guy that was interviewing Dad. He tried to use the fly swatter to get rid of it but was not successful. "Damn, that fly! Can someone get rid of it, please?"

Now my Dad had huge hands. So he just caught that fly in his hand, like swoop! He moved his thumb enough so the interviewer could hear the fly buzzing inside. He was hired. Worked for them for 37 years before he passed.
stetson
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titan said:


Almost as baffling is why do colleges and schools carry on so much about Fascism but allow and empower Marxist Professors and teaching socialist and communist philosophy? Why are there not Fascist equivalents if going to allow that?

Why is it okay to be Marxist or even Marxist lite?

We fought World wars against both. Fascism in WW II, and the ComIntern both after World War I (see Murmansk, others) and the whole Cold War.

Why is one given such a pass by the press, government, and school?

Van Jones is a declared Marxist on CNN. Yet it seems unfathomable a declared Fascist would be allowed such a position. Even one being interviewed is considered way out of line.

So why all the passes given to Marxism?

The Left views Communism as social and economic equality and fascism as dictatorship while glossing over the fact that communism has killed millions more than fascism.
aggiehawg
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Ragoo said:

AOC is getting hefty

She really has gained a lot of weight. Surprising to me. AOC turning into Bell Abzug absent the hat, should be amusing.
Burdizzo
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Ragoo said:

AOC is getting hefty



She has her Tia's bingo wings
LMCane
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Roparzh said:

92,000 Americans died fighting to prevent the spread of communism in the Korea and Vietnam wars. Now, there is a communist mayor in NYC. What a huge waste of American lives! This is a dishonor to every military service member. Why do they serve when this country has shown they don't want the military?


now talk to the British and French military veterans who lost MILLIONS in two World Wars-

only to have the communists and Islamists take over their countries!

LMCane
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Here is your answer:

because the universities were taken over by Communists and Socialists and anarchists in the 1960s

since then, they added in the Islamists and Jew haters.

why would they support the Nazis?
Eliminatus
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Ragoo said:

AOC is getting hefty

Gettin' THICC
bobbranco
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I have not read the following but it tracks with disturbing stuff I've heard through the years. We allowed the universities to become a safe haven for the Marxists. It is our fault. I know of a professor not given tenure because he was a Republican in 1985.

https://www.nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/the-disappearing-conservative-professor

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1. I've seen in public schools that tend to push the evils of Fascism over those of Communism. I don't believe it's purposeful in most cases but due to a lack of knowledge. I believe much of it is due to the fact that Communism existed longer and most people in the U.S. think of nuclear war when it comes to the evils of Communism and lines for basic goods. I don't remember ever being taught about the Holodomor and we skipped Asia and Africa altogether in World History(early 90s). So we definitely didn't get anything about the Cultural Revolution and the deaths tied to that.

2. I have seen a resurgence of teaching the evils of Communism in the schools I work in.
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
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Just don't understand why such a off the cuff enemy of the Cold War (every bit as stereotype and off cuff as Nazi as enemy) is allowed to teach and push their philosophy.

The Communists played the long game and won. Once your eyes open and see that, the rest falls out clear as day.

In the beginning, they tried the classic class warfare, but it went nowhere. So, they changed tactics. They slowly worked their ways into all institutions, with academia being the most important. Once there, they discovered a new methodology of implementation, division through identity groups.

Employing this new methodology, over time they built out entire curriculums of blaming every single problem in the world on white, colonizers. Then they expanded it.

This expansion pushed downward into the public schools. Meanwhile, they expanded their power upwards as the once entry level Commies rose through the ranks in all sectors of gov't. They then hired more Commies to solidify their power, and the public schools pushed out more and more drones of Commies who were completely oblivious to the underpinnings of what they had learned, because, after all, it was no longer called Communism. The definitions had been altered.

Then, after a few decades of slowly working their power up and down, their darling came along: Obama. Obama made powerful, strategic moves throughout the Federal gov't to cement their power system. These elite Commies now ensure the street Commies were never prosecuted, and many times never even investigated. The general street Commies are let out of jail constantly without repercussions. At the upper end, The System now targets and prosecutes their enemies, aka. Arctic Frost, Trump, etc., and ensures that everyone knows, if you dare stand up to their power, they have the full, and legal force (thanks Patriot Act) to crush you and every person in your family under nebulous charges.

If you believe that, as I obviously do, it begins to explain the reasoning behind every one of their moves. These are not people who are good and just have different opinions. These are evil, demon possessed, Commies ready and will to kill anyone in their way, and celebrate it (Charlie Kirk), and they now have an army of idiots through the public school system and immigration that hate this country and will crawl over acid covered broken glass to vote for them.
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