Younger Trump 2024 voters are significantly more likely to...

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kongaggie
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Younger Trump 2024 voters are significantly more likely to identify as "American First" Republicans than older generations, who lean towards "Traditional" Republicanism. Thoughts? I find this quite interesting given recent events and the demographics of this forum.

Who?mikejones!
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How did they define america first?

The tucker way or the trump way?
96AgGrad
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If "traditional Republicanism" wasn't America first, what was it?
kongaggie
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I guess they asked, "Do you resonate more with 'American First' or 'Traditional Republican'?" Not that hard to understand
Kvetch
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Younger people have only seen the ill effects of America attempting nation building to no avail. They have not seen how it is worse when America pulls out of world affairs and lets other powers fill the vacuum.

Honestly, the correct amount of foreign involvement is probably somewhere in between 1900 America and 2005 America.
Who?mikejones!
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That's kinda a undefined term at this point among the rivht
Sq 17
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They are MAGA
Not even remotely surprising
titan
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Who?mikejones! said:

How did they define america first?

The tucker way or the trump way?

You are asking the right question. Very sage.

Tucker's is very close to a genuine isolationism. Trump's is more like a Reagan, might brings peace way.
Henriques
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I'm 55 and have always been America first.

Many folks have been that way, especially those of us who lived through Carter and his merry band of Marxist apologists back in the 1970s.

In the 1980s, we got a POTUS whose philosophy went something like this:

"…we win, they lose."

It is good to have that paradigm back in the White House, even if it is in a different way than it existed at the end of the Cold War.



titan
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Kvetch said:

Younger people have only seen the ill effects of America attempting nation building to no avail. They have not seen how it is worse when America pulls out of world affairs and lets other powers fill the vacuum.

Honestly, the correct amount of foreign involvement is probably somewhere in between 1900 America and 2005 America.

The missing link is the need to reject the indecisive war. When we go to war the party/agency that caused it should always be gone after.

So it should be done carefully. That doesn't even mean rarely, -- you could have three Panamas, each having removed the reason summarily.

But don't get into Viet Nams and Koreas. Which usually result from State Department bumbling. Failure to articular deterrence, or sending double-messages. Biden with Putin just pre-Ukraine a great example.
Rapier108
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America First should mean the US does what it in its own best interest.

If helping/allying with another country aligns with our goals/interests, then we do so.

And since we're still one of the most powerful nations on Earth, going back to 1920s/1930s isolationism is just not possible, but we don't need to nation build or regime change; the exception to the latter would only be in response to an attack by that nation.

Reagan and Trump's way is far better over absolute isolationism which will do nothing but create aggression from every country that wants to try something, assuming no one will stop them.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
Oyster DuPree
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The older generations have always failed the true conservatives. Hopefully the younger generations can pull us away from the Boomerism of the past
fightingfarmer09
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Republicans will lose them all if they do not start actually putting America first in their policies. It cannot just be the executive through E.O.s.
Hubert J. Farnsworth
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Oyster DuPree said:

The older generations have always failed the true conservatives. Hopefully the younger generations can pull us away from the Boomerism of the past


Exactly. I've voted republican my entire adult life, but now when I think of "traditional republicanism", all I can think of is how they "compromised" traditional America and conservative values away, to the democrats, in the name of being bi-partisan and statesmen like. Older republicans failed the conservatives. I like the new republicans better.
An L of an Ag
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100% of Americans should identify as "America First"!
Waffledynamics
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It means Republicans need to be visibly productive and accountable to their constituents. People are fed up with inaction and being ignored by their representatives, many of whom live completely different lifestyles and are in completely different classes than said constituents.

These people could very easily be swayed to a domestically-focused socialist.
BadMoonRisin
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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

Oyster DuPree said:

The older generations have always failed the true conservatives. Hopefully the younger generations can pull us away from the Boomerism of the past


Exactly. I've voted republican my entire adult life, but now when I think of "traditional republicanism", all I can think of is how they "compromised" traditional America and conservative values away, to the democrats, in the name of being bi-partisan and statesmen like. Older republicans failed the conservatives. I like the new republicans better.

Precisely why I have been a fan of Trump since he came down the escalator.

I felt disgusted that my choices for my first 3 votes since turning 18 were G.W. Bush, John McCain, Mitt Romney. I was young at the time, and would likely vote the same given the alternative, but I to this day regret my vote for all 3 of these clowns. All 3 of them were in favor of sending my classmates to die in the desert, fighting over absolutely nothing of value for reasons that they lied about.

They were 100% trying to trot Jeb! out there to hysterically lose to Hillary Clinton and they would be just as happy.

It really is the Uniparty.
Who?mikejones!
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Waffledynamics said:

It means Republicans need to be visibly productive and accountable to their constituents. People are fed up with inaction and being ignored by their representatives, many of whom live completely different lifestyles and are in completely different classes than said constituents.

These people could very easily be swayed to a domestically-focused socialist.


Well, they're going to get a lesson then because they ain't doin ****
Loren Visser
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Traditional Republicans are the same as Concerned Moderates
Colonel Kurtz
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Traditional republicanism is capitulating to the left for the past 60 years
Muy
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96AgGrad said:

If "traditional Republicanism" wasn't America first, what was it?


RINOs like McCain, Romney, and Bush
titan
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BadMoonRisin said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

Oyster DuPree said:

The older generations have always failed the true conservatives. Hopefully the younger generations can pull us away from the Boomerism of the past


Exactly. I've voted republican my entire adult life, but now when I think of "traditional republicanism", all I can think of is how they "compromised" traditional America and conservative values away, to the democrats, in the name of being bi-partisan and statesmen like. Older republicans failed the conservatives. I like the new republicans better.

Precisely why I have been a fan of Trump since he came down the escalator.

I felt disgusted that my choices for my first 3 votes since turning 18 were G.W. Bush, John McCain, Mitt Romney. I was young at the time, and would likely vote the same given the alternative, but I to this day regret my vote for all 3 of these clowns.

They were 100% trying to trot Jeb! out there to hysterically lose to Hillary Clinton and they would be just as happy.

It really is the Uniparty.

That is so on the nose.

Trump's biggest initial selling point was his clarity about the border and putting country first, and that the MSM was not something to respect, but to rebuff.
Helicopter Ben
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An L of an Ag said:

100% of Americans should identify as "America First"!

I don't understand how this is even a question. It's like if a flood was coming and you go out to buy supplies and take care of your neighbor's house and family before worrying about your own. It's insane. And even crazier that a lot of people consider this controversial.
zephyr88
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America First is the way, but until we stop giving away US tax dollars to ****hole nations around the globe, we will never be America First. The world should get our crumbs not our first harvests.
TexAgs91
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96AgGrad said:

If "traditional Republicanism" wasn't America first, what was it?

I think they mean establishment republicans. These chumps were not the same thing as the republican base.
No, I don't care what CNN or Miss NOW said this time
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