NOT.

But if I were an high tech company with more money than I know what to do with, I would follow this path...

Palantir Technologies (PLTR) is testing a bold alternative to higher education with its new "Meritocracy Fellowship," a program offering high-school graduates full-time work experience instead of a university degree, The Wall Street Journal reported.

Hiring the very best high school students, teach them what they need to do to excel, fast track the best into high trajectory careers.

A bit risky for the students, but very high reward. Demonstrating the lack of efficiency in learning in a university environment.

If universities are going to survive, they need to be more efficient, less costly, and offer better value. And that doesn't mean getting a bunch of cheap adjuncts to teach most of the classes.

Non-pay walled version

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/careersandeducation/palantir-pilots-fellowship-to-challenge-traditional-college-pathways/ar-AA1PFbIo

Everything these corps do is just a new way to get cheap labor and avoid responsibilities. That is it.

They will claim they don't want degrees because they want to pick Rajesh and Prakash off the streets of Kumbapilanugger and pay them peanuts to be slaves.

I am too old to be fooled by all this "innovation". Evaluate with this in mind. Follow the money.

So are they aiming for the pre-women's studies and LGBTYNQRS and minority victim majors before they are stolen away by their post-grad lucrative career path before it even begins? Smart move on their part. Gotta lock up the quality women before they are all taken.

Please stop with the "avoid responsibilities" nonsense. I can only roll my eyeballs so far.

Yeah, college is great...

It's NOT McDonald's, dude.
These kids do well in HS, and their brains are literally 'sponges' for the training and on-the-job education this company offers. Giving them valuable tools for future (elevated) endeavors. Higher education is DEFINITELY not the resume builder it used to be.

I do not know how to use AI. I played with ChatGPT a few times when it first came out, but it is simply something that does not interest me.

I read about all the things kids are doing today with AI, mostly it seems to avoid work. I also read that Dora has all her staff now writing memos with AI.

In the long run, are all these people smarter than me? Doesn't matter, I'll be retired soon enough. Either voluntarily or involuntarily.

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When you proposed to your wife, was a meme part of the proposal?

(I kid, I've been on this site for 25 years, and you are the GOAT at memes)

Back in my day, being the late 90s and early 2000's we used cliff notes and encyclopedia britannica on windows 98 to cheat. These kids have gotten lazy.

For a lot of fields college is just an expensive screening stop for employers. They are now largely failing even at that modest mission. Mainly due to woke dei. This will become more common moving forward.

We have someone here who wants to run everything. He's smart enough, but not very cautious and doesn't think ahead. As far as I'm concerned, he would need to be here at least ten years, preferably twenty years, to be much of a manager.

He wants everything NOW.

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Everything these corps do is just a new way to get cheap labor and avoid responsibilities. That is it.

They will claim they don't want degrees because they want to pick Rajesh and Prakash off the streets of Kumbapilanugger and pay them peanuts to be slaves.

I am too old to be fooled by all this "innovation". Evaluate with this in mind. Follow the money.

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It's posts like this one that alert people that you're a troll posting under a fake background. Peter Thiel (palantir co-founder) has been crusading against college and telling anybody who will listen that it is a waste of money that leads to debt servitude for at least 20 years. All of the tech knows this; it has been regularly lampooned. If you'd actually spent years in tech and AI as you routinely claim, you'd know it too. But that's not you. you're a troll running posts through ChatGPT to sound knowledgeable about AI when in fact you're just the hardest working man in oil.

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For a lot of fields college is just an expensive screening stop for employers. They are now largely failing even at that modest mission. Mainly due to woke dei. This will become more common moving forward.

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I agree with you. What I don't understand is why many famous schools soiled their names with DEI. I saw that myself 4 years ago when my son was applying. Top private schools rejected him which is okay, but I was shocked to see many people with inferior profiles get in who were of the right race, right sex, right religion for them to crow DEI about.

Universities in America need a major reboot. They have forgotten who they are and what their mission is.They are all now holier than thou and too activisty.

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I do not know how to use AI. I played with ChatGPT a few times when it first came out, but it is simply something that does not interest me.

I read about all the things kids are doing today with AI, mostly it seems to avoid work. I also read that Dora has all her staff now writing memos with AI.

In the long run, are all these people smarter than me? Doesn't matter, I'll be retired soon enough. Either voluntarily or involuntarily.

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AI is a tool, that is it. It takes existing knowledge from around the internet and packages it in a way to answer your question. Google will just return you a bunch of links and you have to curate them. Gen AI tools like ChatGPT does that for you so it will give you a customized response.

You should explore it more, and you will find it is helpful in whatever you are interested in. Gardening, Finances, Math, Vacation planning, etc. Beware of it confidently making up answers though.

That said, I find it bad/sad that people are losing their writing skills and letting AI do it for them. Not a good sign.

IN many ways, I think I retrogressed in college.
Would have been better to have worked or gone military first.

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For a lot of fields college is just an expensive screening stop for employers. They are now largely failing even at that modest mission. Mainly due to woke dei. This will become more common moving forward.

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THIS is the problem, not AI. Sure, we need to figure the AI thing out but colleges are mostly cesspools right now with leftist propaganda. When brainless idiots like AOC can not only graduate, but graduate with honors, in supposedly difficult fields, you know you have a huge problem.

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Everything these corps do is just a new way to get cheap labor and avoid responsibilities. That is it.

They will claim they don't want degrees because they want to pick Rajesh and Prakash off the streets of Kumbapilanugger and pay them peanuts to be slaves.

I am too old to be fooled by all this "innovation". Evaluate with this in mind. Follow the money.

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Because colleges and universities are so noble in their efforts to get every kid under the sun a "degree". Spare me. A HS kid with 2 years at Palantir is exponentially further ahead than a kid who spent the first 2 years of college getting their basics out of the way and costing themselves and their families $50k+.

As far as ChatGPT I tend to use it by writing my summary or email myself, ask ChatGPT to refine it (for example "make this shorter and more professional", then I edit what it provides me so it sounds more like how I would write or speak. Plus you have to double check whatever information it provides to avoid presenting hallucinations as fact.

For work; we have a version of ChatGPT that is completely grounded in our company's content and product info, so it's very helpful when writing and email, creating a proposal, or building a slide deck.

Everyone knows the best use for AI is to make girls dance for you and show their boobs.

infinity ag said:

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Everything these corps do is just a new way to get cheap labor and avoid responsibilities. That is it.

They will claim they don't want degrees because they want to pick Rajesh and Prakash off the streets of Kumbapilanugger and pay them peanuts to be slaves.

I am too old to be fooled by all this "innovation". Evaluate with this in mind. Follow the money.

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How many years of college did Gates, Jobs and Zuckerberg have under their belts when they started 3 of the largest, most profitable technology companies in the world? Your schtick is beyond old at this point.

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For a lot of fields college is just an expensive screening stop for employers. They are now largely failing even at that modest mission. Mainly due to woke dei. This will become more common moving forward.

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I agree with you. What I don't understand is why many famous schools soiled their names with DEI. I saw that myself 4 years ago when my son was applying. Top private schools rejected him which is okay, but I was shocked to see many people with inferior profiles get in who were of the right race, right sex, right religion for them to crow DEI about.

Universities in America need a major reboot. They have forgotten who they are and what their mission is.They are all now holier than thou and too activisty.

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My guess is largely like you said in your first reply...follow the money. There is likely a lot of money tied to grands and funding in exchange for program implementation.

How long before colleges Sauron this?

As a longtime PLTR shareholder, I approve of this.

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How long before colleges Sauron this?

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Several misses of late. I'll give this one to you, even though it would be more appropriate in a privacy/police state context. :-)

Doomed if what they are taught becomes obsolete or over staffed.

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As opposed to what college is teaching them?

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IN many ways, I think I retrogressed in college.
Would have been better to have worked or gone military first.

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My experience:

I placed out of 47 ??? hours at A&M. Back in the day, all you had to do is pass the finals, and I spent the summer before frick year doing that (Schaum's outlines) plus my HS AP exams.

I managed to flunk out 3 straight semesters, 0.2 gpa I think, hitchhiked, joined the army.

Came out with my act more together. Still didn't study much, but at least I went to most of my classes. Military is generally a very good way for boys to grow up some.

Excellent. Cancel all F1 Visas immediately

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Everyone knows the best use for AI is to make girls dance for you and show their boobs.

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When are you giving a TED Talk?

Unless a kid wants to be an engineer or doctor college isn't a good value proposition in my opinion. I wouldn't have said that 3 or 4 years ago. I tried everything to get my youngest son to go but he just didn't want to. He's 22, closed on his first house 10 days ago (with zero help) and has made 6 figures this year and last.

Besides government workers university professors and administrators are probably the least productive, useful members of society.

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GeorgiAg said:

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Everyone knows the best use for AI is to make girls dance for you and show their boobs.

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When are you giving a TED Talk?

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Grok picture/imagine then prompt word is "spicy". Elon you dirty dog.

[nothing bad but it's still good]. Grok is moderated so it's nothing too crazy.

You can upload a pic and with it. Add a horse, add a girlfriend. Put in bikini. Fun to mess with your buds/wife/GF.

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Unless a kid wants to be an engineer or doctor college isn't a good value proposition in my opinion. I wouldn't have said that 3 or 4 years ago. I tried everything to get my youngest son to go but he just didn't want to. He's 22, closed on his first house 10 days ago (with zero help) and has made 6 figures this year and last.

Besides government workers university professors and administrators are probably the least productive, useful members of society.

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Your youngest is more than fine then. Some of the old reasons no longer apply -- there is nothing intangible to learn there now except Left indoctrination and as Prager put it "banish all your wisdom and learn not to think".

If he is already closed on a house and making 6 figures he has gotten the only remaining value it supposedly still had, the ticket to a big income path.

I'm 68 and retired. I worked 45 years and never was asked for a diploma or transcript. My mind has completely been changed about the value of college.

I have a BSCS and would have performed well in my entry level SW engineering position with about 25 Comp Sci credits. Almost everything else I used in a 40 year career was taught to me by my colleagues or my father. I learned far more about literature, economics, history, etc via self study over the past 40 years.

My college education just gave me a start and could easily be replaced with a little tech training