Hamas Reasserting Control in Gaza

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Muy
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Wait, a free Palestine is a great Palestine, right libs?
Owlagdad
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torrid said:

Deputy Travis Junior said:

Jesus Christ, I can't wrap my head around this blood lust. 2 years of brutal war and devastation and they're off finding more people to murder before the ink is even dry on the ceasefire.


You expected otherwise?


And all these liberal young ones who think these folks are exploited peaceful loving Bedouins, who just want to be left alone and are good Stewart's of the land and pray to Allah about peace, would be first to get their head chopped off.
We keep repeating here- no one wants these folks. Liberals just live in lala land. There's a time to cut bait.
Zombie Jon Snow
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Since they released the hostages - level the place. Turn it into glass.
MagnumLoad
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So when do we get back the bodies of the dead hostages?
I hate tu. It's in my blood.
ME92
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Deputy Travis Junior said:

Jesus Christ, I can't wrap my head around this blood lust. 2 years of brutal war and devastation and they're off finding more people to murder before the ink is even dry on the ceasefire.

Violence is part of their religion and upbringing.

But remember that war is very rarely one side against another side, like a football game. It's a side of groups who think that is beneficial for them to fight another side of groups who think likewise against the first side of groups.

The math behind the benefits for each of the groups changes as the tides of war change so the do who each group decides to fight against.

In Gaza, it looks like one group did the math and decided to make a play for control of Gaza since Hamas was weakened. This happens in most wars, we're only hearing about it this time because of Hamas' media department.
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kag00 said:

The only real way to stop Hamas is a civil war inside Gaza and for their own residents to displace them. That or total obliteration like was done to Japan in WW2 and we all know there is no will for either and Hamas will survive like the cockroaches they are.


Most of Gaza's population would kill anybody who rose up in revolt against Hamas. Most of the population are in complete support of Hamas.

Obliteration of Gaza wouldn't end Hamas. Hamas is just the visible part of the people pulling the strings behind the curtain. So much money from donations and from governments flowed towards 'Gaza relief' but ended up in other pockets. The owners of those pockets don't want that money stream to end and so will find another population to be cast as the suffering people who are only defending themselves to get that sweet humanitarian aid.
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I am hoping that Trump and Bibi's plan was to fawn over themselves for this peace deal just to get all the live hostages back only to turn around and go back in and wipe them out. If that was not the plan I have no idea why they agreed to this. What has changed? Hamas is still armed, still in Gaza, still right next door to Israel.
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WBBQ74 said:

Shazam.

The only way to deal with Hamas is to eliminate them. Hard truth. Anything else is folly.


That's not possible.
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
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Deputy Travis Junior said:

Jesus Christ, I can't wrap my head around this blood lust. 2 years of brutal war and devastation and they're off finding more people to murder before the ink is even dry on the ceasefire.


Try 2000 plus years, that part of the globe will never change, just swap out warlords from time to time.
US is the only thing prolonging this ME fighting. If we would take the leash off Israel would wipe the floor with all of them,
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

WBBQ74 said:

Shazam.

The only way to deal with Hamas is to eliminate them. Hard truth. Anything else is folly.


That's not possible.


Like fire ants, can't kill em all
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It really blows my mind that university students would support hamas...

Some mental mistakes I get, but the evidence is so clear & so convincing that absolutely NO rational human being would ever think that Israel was somehow the bad guy in any of this, at any point in history.

It's mind numbing to witness that level of stupidity.

It's like showing someone 2 people. 1 person kills puppies for fun as a hobby, and the other likes to paint....and university students will pick the puppy killer out as the good guys. Just wtf???
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Pizza said:

It really blows my mind that university students would support hamas...

Some mental mistakes I get, but the evidence is so clear & so convincing that absolutely NO rational human being would ever think that Israel was somehow the bad guy in any of this, at any point in history.

It's mind numbing to witness that level of stupidity.

It's like showing someone 2 people. 1 person kills puppies for fun as a hobby, and the other likes to paint....and university students will pick the puppy killer out as the good guys. Just wtf???

yes
and they prove it every day in every interview and SM postt.

.........and if you wanna hear God laugh, tell him your plans.
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mickeyrig06sq3 said:

So do we start the pool now on how long it takes Hamas to violate the treaty again? I'm thinking about 2 years.
. More like 2 minutes.
Matt Hooper
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I'm inclined to agree with you, but perhaps for differing reasons.

Why do you think it's not possible to eliminate Hamas?

I suspect most in Gaza (Palestinian's) not direct supporters of Hamas support something else with a different name but same ideology and intent of purpose. So replacing Hamas is a Symantec dance.
Hooper Drives the Boat
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Replied to wrong post.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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TexasAggie_97 said:

Gaeilge said:

All living hostages have been released. As far as I'm concerned, the Palestinian experiment has failed. Hamas shows they have no interest in peace or surrender. All they did was buy themselves time.

Anyone seen World War Z? Israel built a wall to keep the infection out. It is time to deploy the same tactic.

Yes but eventually the wall failed.

Inevitable, walls don't stop missiles not drones.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
Demosthenes81
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Just remember that almost all the "innocent" non Hamas Gazans danced in the street celebrating Oct 7 as well as 9/11. They reap what they sow.

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IslanderAg04 said:

I think the point is to alienate Hamas, and shut up the "free Palistine" idiots. Whether the Palestinians will rise up and fight, we'll need to see. Israel got back the remaining hostages, so Hamas has no more leverage.

The difference between Israel and the Palestinians is that the bodies of dead Israelis are very important to the Israelis and the bodies of dead Palestinians are not important to the Palestinians...other than how they can use propaganda to hurt Israel...
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Rapier108 said:

Let Hamas and the other Palestinians kill each other off.

The devil can sort them out later.
this is where the campus protesters start protesting Hamas …….. not. They are too dumb to even grasp that Hamas was the issue all along
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The only long-term solution to the Gaza problem is expulsion. Give the whole Gaza Strip a clean sweep like the Russians did to Koenigsberg.

If none of the Arab countries want the expellees, then send them to Ireland.
DannyDuberstein
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Seal it off and let them kill each other. Just pretend it's a cardboard box of cockroaches, which it is, while you sit there with a can of Raid exterminating whatever tries to leave.
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Those people over there are subhuman trash. All need to die, every one of them. Be a good place to test what we have stockpiled, see how certain biological or chemical agents work in a real test of their effectiveness.
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Pizza said:

It really blows my mind that university students would support hamas...

Some mental mistakes I get, but the evidence is so clear & so convincing that absolutely NO rational human being would ever think that Israel was somehow the bad guy in any of this, at any point in history.

It's mind numbing to witness that level of stupidity.

It's like showing someone 2 people. 1 person kills puppies for fun as a hobby, and the other likes to paint....and university students will pick the puppy killer out as the good guys. Just wtf???

It's because the battle is spiritual. There is no sense that can be made of it otherwise.
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CDUB98 said:

What I don't understand is why didn't these guys fight back? I mean, you have to know you're going to die, so why not go out giving them every single bit of hell you can?

I know it is easy for me to say, but I cannot imagine just sitting on my knees waiting for someone to off me. I'd rather go out on my terms.

But, I am rather stubborn.

Many of them appear to have their hands tied behind their backs, and I would imagine they had endured long beatings before this moment. They probably didn't have anything left to fight back with. Quite possibly their families were threatened too.
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Owlagdad said:

torrid said:

Deputy Travis Junior said:

Jesus Christ, I can't wrap my head around this blood lust. 2 years of brutal war and devastation and they're off finding more people to murder before the ink is even dry on the ceasefire.


You expected otherwise?


And all these liberal young ones who think these folks are exploited peaceful loving Bedouins, who just want to be left alone and are good Stewart's of the land and pray to Allah about peace, would be first to get their head chopped off.
We keep repeating here- no one wants these folks. Liberals just live in lala land. There's a time to cut bait.


No, they're cheering it on. They know full well what hamas is doing and don't care because brown versus Jew.
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jt2hunt said:

CDUB98 said:

Hamas disarming was not a requirement for Phase I of the peace plan. That was a key part of getting Phase I pushed through. My own speculation based on news snippets.

Phase II involves Hamas disarming and where the impasse lies, mostly.

Anyone with knowledge of these inbred morons knows they will not disarm, and at that point, I believe all bets are off and Israel goes back in to eliminate Hamas.


This was likely to plan all along in my opinion. Put the peace plan out there and get the hostages back and tell them they have to disarm and when they don't obliterate them because they know they won't.


I hope so.
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The Pakistani Air Force just struck Kabul, Afghanistan. Localized Taliban targets along the border, that were positioning artillery. Watching live Pakistan TV feed

"We're going to turn this red Prius into a soup kitchen!"
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An exception was Munich 72 and Black September. None of control were left, even the "pockets' and suppliers and reporters that enabled. Could see Israel pushed to that again.
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Deputy Travis Junior said:

Jesus Christ, I can't wrap my head around this blood lust. 2 years of brutal war and devastation and they're off finding more people to murder before the ink is even dry on the ceasefire.

They're savages and should be treated as such
No, I don't care what CNN or Miss NOW said this time
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mickeyrig06sq3 said:

So do we start the pool now on how long it takes Hamas to violate the treaty again? I'm thinking about 2 years.

2 weeks
No, I don't care what CNN or Miss NOW said this time
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northeastag
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People have been fighting over this land for like, what, thousand of years? And we think this current ceasefire and peace agreement are going to hold?

right
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IslanderAg04
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annie88 said:

Who did they execute?

Other members of Hamas or Israelis or others?

Edit: On Sunday, 52 members of the powerful Dagmoush clan were killed in clashes with Hamas' internal security forces, while 12 Hamas terrorists, including the son of senior official Bassem Naim, also died, according to reports in Gaza."

Who is the Dagmoush clan? Are they bad too? Do we care about terrorists killing other terrorists?

But, That's why every member of Hamas needs to be obliterated from the face of the earth.

Do it Trump.


I believe they are executing all who helped the idf. Sad part is, they drastically outnumber hamas, but dont have the balls to stand up.
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Demosthenes81 said:

Just remember that almost all the "innocent" non Hamas Gazans danced in the street celebrating Oct 7 as well as 9/11. They reap what they sow.




Hell a good chunk of them joined in. One of the videos was some civilian who followed allong, killed a family and used their phone to call his parents, praising allah and all the usual bs. Palastinians are the biggest grift as it dates back to Roman rule. Islam hadnt slithered its way in until 100's of years later with the Ottoman expansion. They are currently just rejected tribes from egypt and Jordan.
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