Is Trump correct about the current safety of Washington, D.C.?

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ToddyHill
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I keep hearing him say D.C. is safe and booming. I haven't been to D.C. in 30 years. Can anyone who travels there or lives there share their thoughts? Thanks.
DCAggie13y
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I live just outside of DC. Honestly its hard to say for sure but they definitely cleaned up the homeless tents that were everywhere. But I think that started before they sent in the National Guard.

I have noticed a much heavier police presence since Trump took office which makes you feel safer but the statistics tell the full story.
Rockdoc
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Buck Sexton was doing his radio show from DC today and he said it was very safe right now. They could drive or walk wherever they wanted with no worries at all.
VP at Pierce and Pierce
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Does that mean Baltimore, Philly, and NYC received bus fulls of criminals?
MemphisAg1
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I'm there 6 to 8 times a year for the past four years or so.

Depends on where you are. DC is still a beautiful city with much to behold and enjoy. Majestic in a lot of ways with the seat of Congress, White House, Supreme Court, federal agencies, museums, and monuments.

If you're in the zone where the politicians, lobbyists, and tourists transit, you're as safe as you'd be in a similar part of any major American city.

Venture into the sketchy or no-go zones, and then you're taking your own chances. But no different than Memphis, St Louis, Chicago, Baltimore, New York, Oakland, or frankly, parts of Houston, Dallas, and San Antonio.

Use good judgment and keep your head on a swivel.
Rockdoc
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Isn't it a shame there are no go zones in your own country or state. I guess it's been that way for a long time and not gonna change.
MemphisAg1
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Rockdoc said:

Isn't it a shame there are no go zones in your own country or state. I guess it's been that way for a long time and not gonna change.

It really is a shame.

And we shouldn't accept it.

I appreciate Trump's efforts to restore order.

It's a nice gesture but will require much deeper change to achieve and sustain.

Unfortunately, roughly half of this country supports politicians who would rather keep the status-quo.
boulderaggie
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We were there about 4 weeks ago and it was BEAUTIFUL. We saw some national guard walking around the national mall area and it felt very natural and not out of place. Wonderful time. Took a nighttime monuments tour and felt 100% safe. Loved every minute there.
ToddyHill
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Like I said, it's been many years since I've been to D.C. Prior to cell phones and the internet, a co-worker and I flew into D.C. and arrived around 10 p.m. We got lost, and at an intersection, a transit bus driver blocked us. We rolled down our window, and the driver, an older black man, looked at us two young white guys and said, 'you guys don't want to go any further.' I'll never forget that and the fact that he helped us in a bad situation.

I'm not a Trump basher, but recognize he has the art of embellishment. Just looking for those who have been there and their perspectives.
JamesE4
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I was there this week, but only in the National Mall to DuPont Circle area. Felt very safe there - not very crowded, no issues.
amercer
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I live in the area. The tourist areas have been safe for a long time. The bad parts of town are still bad, but if you come to visit you won't go there anyway.
Rockdoc
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amercer said:

I live in the area. The tourist areas have been safe for a long time. The bad parts of town are still bad, but if you come to visit you won't go there anyway.

So what you're saying is Trump had no effect, is that right?
ts5641
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Rockdoc said:

Buck Sexton was doing his radio show from DC today and he said it was very safe right now. They could drive or walk wherever they wanted with no worries at all.

Just shows it's not an impossible problem like the dems claim. It's about having the will to do it.
TRD-Ferguson
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Buck made a comment yesterday:

"A society gets the crime level it tolerates. It's a choice."

We need to demand better choices from ourselves and our leaders.
amercer
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Rockdoc said:

amercer said:

I live in the area. The tourist areas have been safe for a long time. The bad parts of town are still bad, but if you come to visit you won't go there anyway.

So what you're saying is Trump had no effect, is that right?


Is anything substantially different today than before Trumps actions? No.

The folks in ward 8 would actually like more cops on the streets but that wasn't the plan. Most people also wouldn't be mad about more cops on the subway, but it wasn't dangerous.

But again, if you are a tourist you never had much to worry about anyway (at least since the late 1980s when crack made DC an actually dangerous place). It's all kind of relative. I go to Baltimore for events pretty often. The tourist (and entertainment) areas of DC are definitely safer than the tourist areas of Baltimore. But the tourist areas of Baltimore are way, way, way safer that the non-tourist areas in Baltimore…

backintexas2013
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This is true to an extent.

We also won't do anything to address the cause. We have too many, mostly leftists, that think the main cause of crime is being poor. It's not true but that's their excuse for excusing crime. Liberal AOC went on air to justify people committing crime so they can survive. There is no proof that happens on a large scale.
LMCane
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ToddyHill said:

I keep hearing him say D.C. is safe and booming. I haven't been to D.C. in 30 years. Can anyone who travels there or lives there share their thoughts? Thanks.

I live a few miles north in Montgomery County MD

I will go down and check it out- the last few times the city is definitely cleaner as they destroyed the vagrant camps where the bums lived in tents along the Whitehurst Freeway near the Kennedy Center.

I used to have to walk by homeless in their tent ON THE SIDEWALK from the Foggy Bottom Metro to the State Department.

so that in itself is better. the crime rates have certainly dropped.

the problem is the sanctuary city status of Northern Virginia (Fairfax County, Arlington County, Loudoun County) and the sanctuary leftist policies in Montgomery county keep a lot of illegal aliens and criminals on the loose here.
twk
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DCAggie13y said:

I live just outside of DC. Honestly its hard to say for sure but they definitely cleaned up the homeless tents that were everywhere. But I think that started before they sent in the National Guard.

I have noticed a much heavier police presence since Trump took office which makes you feel safer but the statistics tell the full story.

Unfortunately, the statistics for most major metro areas have been garbage for years. Makes it really difficult to know what's really happening.
TexasAggie73
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Rockdoc said:

Isn't it a shame there are no go zones in your own country or state. I guess it's been that way for a long time and not gonna change.


Always have been since the building of cities.
Logos Stick
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I can't speak to the safety right now. I visited for the first time during Trump's first term. My first night after dinner walking back to the hotel at night, this black dude came up behind us and threatened me and my GF. Nothing happened, but it was unsettling. Welcome to DC!

If I were going to visit, I'd do it now. Once the Dems take back control, it'll become a hell-hole again.
No Spin Ag
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MemphisAg1 said:

Rockdoc said:

Isn't it a shame there are no go zones in your own country or state. I guess it's been that way for a long time and not gonna change.

It really is a shame.

And we shouldn't accept it.

I appreciate Trump's efforts to restore order.

It's a nice gesture but will require much deeper change to achieve and sustain.

Unfortunately, roughly half of this country supports politicians who would rather keep the status-quo.


Trump should be pushing congress to give more money to those cities so they can hire more police. That would be something that could bring longer lasting results in those cities.

I'm hoping that's something he means into soon.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
MemphisAg1
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No Spin Ag said:

MemphisAg1 said:

Rockdoc said:

Isn't it a shame there are no go zones in your own country or state. I guess it's been that way for a long time and not gonna change.

It really is a shame.

And we shouldn't accept it.

I appreciate Trump's efforts to restore order.

It's a nice gesture but will require much deeper change to achieve and sustain.

Unfortunately, roughly half of this country supports politicians who would rather keep the status-quo.


Trump should be pushing congress to give more money to those cities so they can hire more police. That would be something that could bring longer lasting results in those cities.

I'm hoping that's something he means into soon.

Cities need to pay for their own policing. That's not a federal responsibility. There are many safe cities across the US where local citizens prioritize safety and support their local police departments.

Many of these big blue cities defunded their police substantially and chose to use their tax dollars for all kinds of other social giveaways.

The ball is in their court. If they don't accept it, the feds will temporarily step in to protect federal agents doing their lawful jobs, but that doesn't absolve the city of the responsibility for protecting their citizens.
twk
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MemphisAg1 said:

No Spin Ag said:

MemphisAg1 said:

Rockdoc said:

Isn't it a shame there are no go zones in your own country or state. I guess it's been that way for a long time and not gonna change.

It really is a shame.

And we shouldn't accept it.

I appreciate Trump's efforts to restore order.

It's a nice gesture but will require much deeper change to achieve and sustain.

Unfortunately, roughly half of this country supports politicians who would rather keep the status-quo.


Trump should be pushing congress to give more money to those cities so they can hire more police. That would be something that could bring longer lasting results in those cities.

I'm hoping that's something he means into soon.

Cities need to pay for their own policing. That's not a federal responsibility. There are many safe cities across the US where local citizens prioritize safety and support their local police departments.

Many of these big blue cities defunded their police substantially and chose to use their tax dollars for all kinds of other social giveaways.

The ball is in their court. If they don't accept it, the feds will temporarily step in to protect federal agents doing their lawful jobs, but that doesn't absolve the city of the responsibility for protecting their citizens.

This. Outside of DC, where the feds could ultimately take control if the DC city council isn't doing the job, it's not the feds job to provide basic policing. Getting the thug element among the millions of illegals off the streets (and out of this country), and some narcotics interdiction, are the primary things that the feds can contribute toward making cities safer.
LMCane
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the problem is not the number of police

the problem is leftist District Attorneys who do not charge the defendants with felonies

and juries who find the guilty as not guilty

and Judges who release convicted felons

until you deal with all of that- you will not change anything!
halfastros81
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Cities can be made safer if the law and order were maintained like they should be. I feel like a component of this was to embarrass local law enforcement by showing it can be done if you make it a priority because after all it is their job. LMCanes point above is also an excellent one, it's not even mostly on the police . Has to be demoralizing for them to arrest someone and see them back on the street the next day.
samurai_science
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VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

Does that mean Baltimore, Philly, and NYC received bus fulls of criminals?

I hope
DCAggie13y
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MemphisAg1 said:

No Spin Ag said:

MemphisAg1 said:

Rockdoc said:

Isn't it a shame there are no go zones in your own country or state. I guess it's been that way for a long time and not gonna change.

It really is a shame.

And we shouldn't accept it.

I appreciate Trump's efforts to restore order.

It's a nice gesture but will require much deeper change to achieve and sustain.

Unfortunately, roughly half of this country supports politicians who would rather keep the status-quo.


Trump should be pushing congress to give more money to those cities so they can hire more police. That would be something that could bring longer lasting results in those cities.

I'm hoping that's something he means into soon.

Cities need to pay for their own policing. That's not a federal responsibility. There are many safe cities across the US where local citizens prioritize safety and support their local police departments.

Many of these big blue cities defunded their police substantially and chose to use their tax dollars for all kinds of other social giveaways.

The ball is in their court. If they don't accept it, the feds will temporarily step in to protect federal agents doing their lawful jobs, but that doesn't absolve the city of the responsibility for protecting their citizens.


I agree and I think DC is a special case because you have Federal officials and their staff being assaulted, murdered, carjacked, etc. So poor policing in DC makes it much more difficult for the Federal government to operate effectively.
redcrayon
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amercer said:

I live in the area. The tourist areas have been safe for a long time. The bad parts of town are still bad, but if you come to visit you won't go there anyway.

So the area by the State Dept is a bad part of town? Because before Trump ordered it cleaned up, it was a homeless enclave that smelled like urine and vomit.

The crime was definitely not confined to one area of the city. I know many people who were mugged and assaulted in the areas around the Capitol and White House.

I go often for work and I have noticed more police and less crazy vagrants. It's refreshing, actually. I hope it lasts. Though the smell of pot is still pervasive so that sucks. You'd think with all the pot there would be no crime.
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