I say heck yeah! No income ceiling on the subsidies. The middle class needs a break

TRUMP SAYS WOULD MAKE A DEAL ON AFFORDABLE CARE ACT SUBSIDIES

— *Walter Bloomberg (@DeItaone) October 6, 2025

Logos Stick said:

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I say heck yeah! No income ceiling on the subsidies. The middle class needs a break

TRUMP SAYS WOULD MAKE A DEAL ON AFFORDABLE CARE ACT SUBSIDIES

— *Walter Bloomberg (@DeItaone) October 6, 2025

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Are you out of your F'ing mind? Just cut everyone's taxes and they can pay for themselves.

Logos Stick said:

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I say heck yeah! No income ceiling on the subsidies.

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Did a rightist just agree with the Dems?

Tom Fox said:

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Logos Stick said:

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I say heck yeah! No income ceiling on the subsidies. The middle class needs a break

TRUMP SAYS WOULD MAKE A DEAL ON AFFORDABLE CARE ACT SUBSIDIES

— *Walter Bloomberg (@DeItaone) October 6, 2025

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Are you out of your F'ing mind? Just cut everyone's taxes and they can pay for themselves.

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This is the same as a tax cut. They've already passed all the tax cuts that will be passed in the BBB.

It's the same as more spending.

Logos Stick said:

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Tom Fox said:

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Logos Stick said:

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I say heck yeah! No income ceiling on the subsidies. The middle class needs a break

TRUMP SAYS WOULD MAKE A DEAL ON AFFORDABLE CARE ACT SUBSIDIES

— *Walter Bloomberg (@DeItaone) October 6, 2025

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Are you out of your F'ing mind? Just cut everyone's taxes and they can pay for themselves.

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This is the same as a tax cut. They've already passed all the tax cuts that will be passed in the BBB.

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It is a tax hike on someone. There is no such thing as free.

Always figured Trump/Republicans would cave. (History says the Republicans always cave in a shutdown.)

Trump gets called "TACO" by the left for a reason, and it isn't totally undeserved.

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Logos Stick said:

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I say heck yeah! No income ceiling on the subsidies.

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Did a rightist just agree with the Dems?

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This is not a right or left issue. No one wants any spending cuts. This benefits the middle class.

Might as well get some benefits before it collapses. It's like having a glass of $1000 bubbly on the deck of the Titanic before she goes under.

The Affordable Care Act, an Orwellian play at words only slightly more disgusting than the Inflation Reduction Act.

We had a real chance to kill that off and actually make things cheaper for most Americans. Thanks to John McCain's TDS, we're stuck with yet another government intrusion on healthcare designed to destroy the private market and send us all into NHS-style misery.

The term "rightist" isn't a thing. It's just dumb and it makes you sound dumb trying to make it into something. Leftist is a real term. Rightist isn't.

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It's the same as more spending.

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Tax cuts are not spending.

He is going to be shocked when he learns about inflation:

Dude, this, in no way, is a good thing.

Tom Fox said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Tom Fox said:

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Logos Stick said:

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I say heck yeah! No income ceiling on the subsidies. The middle class needs a break

TRUMP SAYS WOULD MAKE A DEAL ON AFFORDABLE CARE ACT SUBSIDIES

— *Walter Bloomberg (@DeItaone) October 6, 2025

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Are you out of your F'ing mind? Just cut everyone's taxes and they can pay for themselves.

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This is the same as a tax cut. They've already passed all the tax cuts that will be passed in the BBB.

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It is a tax hike on someone. There is no such thing as free.

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So the tax cuts in the BBB are tax hikes on someone else?! This is nothing more than additional deficit spending. Same as general tax cuts unless they lead to more revenue.

Subsidies are different than tax cuts. Subsidies allow people to receive more than they have paid in taxes.

This just takes from the tax payer and gives it to the healthcare industry. It's like giving everyone an extra $2k for a new roof and then being surprised when roof prices jump $2k.

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The term "rightist" isn't a thing. It's just dumb and it makes you sound dumb trying to make it into something. Leftist is a real term. Rightist isn't.

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She's trying to be clever. Don't burst her bubble.

Repeal or GTFO

Same with MediCare and MedicAid

Wanna know the best way to make something $1000 more expensive? Give everyone $1000.

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Unforgiven94 said:

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The term "rightist" isn't a thing. It's just dumb and it makes you sound dumb trying to make it into something. Leftist is a real term. Rightist isn't.

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She's trying to be clever. Don't burst her bubble.

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This explains a lot.

TACO if true.

He's got all the cards in his hand. No need to fold now.

Thanks Mc****stain

Also why is random twitter being taken as gospel

I don't even know what this means. Sounds like another conservative solution to a liberal premise.

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This just takes from the tax payer and gives it to the healthcare industry. It's like giving everyone an extra $2k for a new roof and then being surprised when roof prices jump $2k.

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Or letting government provide loans and grants to students for every degree under the sun, and the price of college tuition goes up exponentially

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Also why is random twitter being taken as gospel

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its not a random twitter. It's true

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I don't even know what this means. Sounds like another conservative solution to a liberal premise.

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It means it's time to celebrate. The money is coming. Hopefully Trump sends the tariff money to us next.

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Also why is random twitter being taken as gospel

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its not a random twitter. It's true

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So you have other sources?

Good trump

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The Affordable Care Act, an Orwellian play at words only slightly more disgusting than the Inflation Reduction Act.

We had a real chance to kill that off and actually make things cheaper for most Americans. Thanks to John McCain's TDS, we're stuck with yet another government intrusion on healthcare designed to destroy the private market and send us all into NHS-style misery.

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Or the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law (don't really know what Infrastructure was repaired or built with this bill)

Terrible.

Tom Fox said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Tom Fox said:

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Logos Stick said:

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I say heck yeah! No income ceiling on the subsidies. The middle class needs a break

TRUMP SAYS WOULD MAKE A DEAL ON AFFORDABLE CARE ACT SUBSIDIES

— *Walter Bloomberg (@DeItaone) October 6, 2025

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Are you out of your F'ing mind? Just cut everyone's taxes and they can pay for themselves.

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This is the same as a tax cut. They've already passed all the tax cuts that will be passed in the BBB.

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It is a tax hike on someone. There is no such thing as free.

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Agreed.

I'm already taxed enough.

Our elected officials need to learn to balance the budget without playing games with my spending habits.

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Also why is random twitter being taken as gospel

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its not a random twitter. It's true

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So you have other sources?

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John Thune, JD Vance, and the WSJ and pretty much every other media outlet has been reporting since the shutdown started pretty much every day that Republicans would cave on this. Posted about it on the government shutdown thread and others for the past 3-4 days.

This was a known capitulation that was going to happen and should not surprise anyone. It has an average savings of around $85 per person for those using ACA if the subsidies are kept in place.

Edit: the only caveat that the R's put on giving in here was that they wouldn't do it unless Democrats restarted the government. If they did that, then R's would cave on it. My prediction is that R's will back off of that and will totally cave on it at this point before restarting government.

Logos Stick said:

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TA-OP said:

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Logos Stick said:

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I say heck yeah! No income ceiling on the subsidies.

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Did a rightist just agree with the Dems?

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This is not a right or left issue. No one wants any spending cuts. This benefits the middle class.

Might as well get some benefits before it collapses. It's like having a glass of $1000 bubbly on the deck of the Titanic before she goes under.

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How does this benefit the middle class, and there are plenty of people that want spending cuts.

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Logos Stick said:

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TA-OP said:

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Logos Stick said:

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I say heck yeah! No income ceiling on the subsidies.

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Did a rightist just agree with the Dems?

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This is not a right or left issue. No one wants any spending cuts. This benefits the middle class.

Might as well get some benefits before it collapses. It's like having a glass of $1000 bubbly on the deck of the Titanic before she goes under.

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How does this benefit the middle class, and there are plenty of people that want spending cuts.

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If you don't work for a company that provides insurance and you are not eligible for Medicare, then your options are ACA, Medishare, or possibly other esoteric plan that I haven't found yet. So, small business owners, sole proprietors, any other gig where you can't find a pool of like people to get an insurance plan.

Also see this...Democrats have the R's over a barrel on this one topic:

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Of the 75 congressional districts where at least 10% of the population is enrolled in the Affordable Care Act, 62 are in red-leaning Florida, Georgia and Texas, according to Kaiser Family Foundation, a healthcare-policy think tank. More than half of the 62 districts in those states are represented by Republicans.

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ACA is extraordinarily expensive though. I priced it out for my wife and I (51 and 49). Looking at $1,300 to $1,500 per month in premiums with a $13-15K annual deductible.

This is why the R's are going to cave on it.